Doc

What's the problem? Most of the subjects have some pretty definitive titles. If you don't like the subject, don't click on the topic. If you want sterile, non-confrontational topics, anyone that wants to can start one can. You want topics that have no opposing opinions, I doubt there is a forum around that can supply that (or wants to). Do you want censorship? Doc

Stinkin' goats!!!

During a discussion a long time ago, the subject came up about how long these prions can survive and still remain viable in the soil. I wish I could remember how long it was said that these things can survive as infectable entities but I remember being a bit shocked at how long they can last. So, the point is that just because no cases have been discovered for a while does not mean that the disease is destroyed and no longer a threat. Doc

Yeah, I don't know what percentage of the users of high end pay-to-hunt businesses actually fit the true dictionary definition of being a yuppie .... lol. And it probably doesn't matter. The point is that their is a growing number of people with adequate resources for supporting more and more of these kinds of hunting businesses. And, the more land that these kinds of operations absorb, the less land that is available to the rest of us. If we continue on path with this kind of evolution of hunting, we need only look over in Europe to see where it will all lead eventually. No, not in my lifetime or even in the lifetime of most of our members here, but eventually. Doc

Oh boy.....I messed up on the poll. I said that I don't hunt a food plot, but actually I do have a second parcel of property that has a grasslot in the center that I keep mowed. The deer use it and I do occasionally hunt it. In fact I've gotten deer from it. Come to think of it, I have gotten a deer from my front lawn while I hid behind the barn with the shotgun before. That could be called a food plot too. So on the poll, scratch one "NO" vote. Doc

Parachute .......... think parachute. That should do it. Doc

I would take a hammer and keep hitting it until it is completely numb. No, seriously that is a very bad development. i can't imagine how you are going to be able to hunt without losing a bunch of days. How on earth did you do that kind of damage? Doc

I don't know about those guys, but I sure don't usually have time to rangefind on the fly. What I do is use my rangefinder to find the distances to various trees or other features around my stand. If I could get a deer to just stop and stand there while I checked the distance, then pulled up and tried to take the shot, I'd do that. But really, how often are the deer that cooperative? My guess would be that if you had a deer grazing in a food plot or hay field or something, you probably would have time to range the distance, realtime. But trail hunting, I don't think so. Doc

I don't know what the background of some of these guys is, but with the prices some of these places are asking, it definitely is people with deeper pockets than I've got.....lol. It's like some of these New Zealand hunts that you see on TV. Heck, I can't even afford the trip to New Zealand and back even without the hunt ..... lol. So, I'm thinking that maybe it's mostly young execs who all of a sudden get the thought that they should have some animals hanging on their wall for bragging purposes and simply decide to go out and purchase a hunt that guarantees success in a time frame that doesn't interfere too much with their tennis, skiing, kayaking, mountain climbing, etc.

Good. Now let's get back to discussing those property lines and those that like to play games with them ...... lol . Doc

I'm thinking that the problem that the state has with getting hunters to shoot does might be partially due to the fact that a good many hunters/families really don't care all that much for venison. I know there are other factors involved like the old holdover attitudes against shooting does from the old days when it was necessary to build herds. Also, like you say there are a lot of armchair managers who simply want to get those permits out of circulation because of what they perceive as DEC overkill on the herd (by the way, a lot of times they aren't all that wrong). Your version of EAB could be used to thwart some of those attitudes and get hunters shooting those does just on the outside chance that they might have an opportunity at a second buck.

I had two of the bigger ones and one of the smaller ones. Ranging used to be in East Rochester, and back in the 80's a few of us guys got an invite to tour their plant from the owner. We each got some free samples. I guess eventually they sold out (to who I don't know). I have a buddy whose picture showed up in their national advertising along with a nice buck he got over in Wyoming County. They were pretty well made units, but I did manage to screw one of the big ones up. I gave away the smaller rangefinder to my son, and keep the last one for emergencies in case something happens to my Nikon. Doc

I have encountered situations where the darn things bed down in the fields toward morning. You really can't approach any stands that use the field edges because they are there already no matter how early you get there. About the only thing you can do in the AM around such places is to try to guess an intercept spot that you think they will pass when they finally leave the field at day-break. Big gamble because there are so many places they could go. But when they are camped out in the field for hours just before daylight, there really aren't a whole lot of options. Doc

Our area has a lot of those kinds of formations, but if you want to see some real gorges with nice waterfalls, head over to the Ithaca area. And then there's always Watkins glen, and who can beat Letchworth? Here's a link to a guy that really like the gorges and falls of the Finger Lakes: http://www.citrusmilo.com/fingerlakes/iloveny1.cfm Sorry to get so far off topic. Doc

Don't fall and roll down into the lake!

It's an essential piece of equipment for me and I've had one since sometime in the 80's. I started off with the Ranging version(focusing the two images together) and just recently went to the laser version. I really am a terrible judge of distance, and there is a nasty feeling of lacking confidence if I don't tie that one variable down. I figure that there's enough other things that can go wrong without adding distance judging to the mix. Doc

For me the most important thing is to practice shooting with heavier clothes and broadheads. It never fails to effect my shooting ...... and not in a nice way either. Doc

We moved there from one valley over back in the 50's.

Not so much. Most people don't know about it. plus access to it is cut off by other landowners who refuse trespass permission because of liabilities. Also, you will notice that the walls are some very loose shale. When I was a kid we tried to climb it (stupid kids) and always got to one spot or another where there simply was nothing solid enough to get ahold of. Doc

I try every year. :-[

See there, you have an obvious marketing talent too. Choosing the right person for advertising is an important feature to the success of the marketing project. And she's definitely the right person. I'm telling ya' we can make a fortune. People are doing it (to hunters) every day. Doc

I can't take it any more. I was hoping I had found a way into this get rich quick hunting market. Well, I'm not giving up yet. Doc

I'm thinking it's a long-tailed wombat. I'm pretty sure of that. We have a lot of them down our way. Doc

We already got all them during the last drive. By the way, any trespassers that try to come in that way find me waiting for them when they get to the top. I usually step on their fingers. We take our posted signs pretty seriously here. ;D By the way my back boundary is the centerline of the creek so if they climb all the way up, they are already trespassing. Doc

Now there's one that I would think the local prosecuter should examine as a homicide . 15 feet?????? and he what ...... mistook him for an elk???? yup Bubba, you got sure-fire proof there!! lol. Blaze orange would have saved that guy. He might not have looked quite so much like an elk at 15 feet if he had his blaze orange on. That accident rate on them bows is just sky-rocketing right thru the roof. I know down our way guys are shooting each other all over the place during bow seasons. These high-powered bows are shooting right through the brush. Just look at that one in the article. That arrow traveled a whole 15 feet and stuck right in the guys head. Now that's a real concern.