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For me i dont need to hunt for food but i enjoy venison so much that its would be extremely hard to live without it. For me its just a matter of trying new things, if i dont like it thats fine but i will still try it. Guess its just how some are raised up.

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My parents and family are from Sicily and my grandparents were sheep farmers on both sides, Lets just say back then nothing went to waste. My dad and mom have taught me to eat and try everything, till this day there are very few things i haven't eaten or have tried. My last deer we ate the tongue, brain, nuts ,liver and heart. Dont knock something until you have tried it. Wont know until you try it. I have learned to look past things like texture, the looks of it etc..and just chow down. Theres not much i haven't eaten on a deer, we let nothing go to waste...lol..jeez my post just made me hungry.

Rub straps with olive oil, fresh garlic, salt and pepper, throw on a hot grill with some type of wood (qpple, mesquite etc..) to add smoke.. few minutes on each side. Done. Simple but yummy.

I have way too much family here to leave. Yes taxes suck but to be quite honest NY has for the most part been great to me. Love all the change in seasons, love to hunt in snow. I love where i hunt, love the mountains and fields of CNY. Did i say love too many times...lol..I took this pic. last week from the top side of my property, not many places where you can get views like that and at the same time can hear a pin drop. Someday that will be my everyday view but for now seeing it occasionally works just as good. Sorry but once again pics are sideways

My wife is actually the one encouraging me to buy it for myself for xmas, this way its one less gift she needs to worry about buying...lol...but im the type of guy that hates having things around that are not being used. Id just rather sell a couple before i bring another one home.

Not sure how i missed that one, i have my eyes on a kimber montana in 257. Just need to dump a couple rifles that i dont use much before i can justify another rifle.

Whats with you people and these teasers? Your killing me. Im living vicariously through you guys from a high rise in NYC and all you guys can post is a pic. of blood...jeez..

Happy Birthday Men, enjoy the day!!!

257 Roberts

Guess you have been one of the very lucky ones..lol..i have tracked a few gut shot deer for family members, we let one go overnight and it went very far and was shot with a marlin 35. The other was shot with a 30-06 and was retrieved a few hundred yards away and only found it because we knew the genrral direction she went, very little blood. My point is i rather rely on my accuracy / marksmanship with a 30-30 then to tote the largest caliber i can handle.

Stop Jeremy, thats just plain common sense and it appears some on here overllook commonsense. I guess it just makes more sense to use the largest caliber you can handle just in case of a marginal shot. Practice till your very proficient and confident with a 30-30, come on thats way to hard.

Then you got lucky my friend, 50 yards on a gut shot, that seems to be the exception but not the norm, either you clipped a vital organ or the deer bedded down within 50 yards and took some time to die thereafter. Ive never seen just a gut shot deer (no vitals) die within 50 yards. I also own and have hunted with a 300 win mag . and know their capabilities. Not doubting you, just find it hard that a gut shot deer only going 50 yards unless vitals were hit as well.

Could not have said it better myself.

I would also think that you would agree that a gut shot deer with a 30-30 or a 338 produces the same result? A gut shot deer and a long track job. I think you would also agree that shooting a deer in the heart with a 30-30 or 338 produces the same result, right? They are both dead deer. So you see my point? A gut shot deer with a 338 is a bad shot and is a larger caliber but doesnt make recovery any easier. While shot placement in the vitals with a plethora of calibers ALWAYS produces the same results, a dead deer. The OP seems to think that the largest caliber a man can handle without flinching should be the gun we carry, i say thats bullshit. Sorry, just my opiion after have killed well over a hundred deer. Not bragging at all, its my observation from many years of experience as a hunter and i feel that does have some relevance.

Amen my friend. I dont know what part of my explanation he has a hard time grasping. Accuracy is key in the deer woods wether it be a 30-30 or a 45-70.

Sounds like a plan, im fortunate enough that my cousin is not a good hunter nor a great shot. ..lol

Hahaha, guess we are both dumb and they are the smart ones. I still have a cousin in his 40's that calls me to help gut his deer.

Funny you say that, i know a few humters that are not new at all to this sport and after the shot are clueless what to do with the deer. Pretty sad if you ask me.

You just keep going in circles, do you even know what you wrote in your OP? All my responses are geared to and have remained on point as it relates to your original post. Your the one making smartass scenarios like shooting a bear with a 9mm or a 22, sarcastic or not thats just plain dumb. Your not answersing my question, do you beleive that using a larger caliber will prevent a deer running to the next hunter? Isnt that what your OP was about? I say no, to prevent a deer from running off to the next guy irregardless of caliber (i feel i need to make myself clear here so you dont come up with another sarcastic scenario, lets say calibers are 30-30, 35, 30-06, 7mm, 45-70, 338 etc..) is to have good shot placement. You seem to think that if i use lets say a 338 vs. a 308 that the 338 will prevent that deer going to the next hunter because its a larger caliber. AGAIN, I say thats nonsense, AGAIN TO ME using a 308 , 243, 35 or 338 makes absolutely no difference TO ME, i rather rely on shot placement irregardless of any above calibers. Maybe you need the 338 lapua to put a deer down, more power to you but ill continue to use my minor calibers and save my shoulder. ,

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My reading comprehension is perfectly fine and yes i get that smartass comment about the 9mm and bear. I think you need to work on your reading comprehension as well because this dude is not being sarcastic however is being quite serious and actually believes and is defending what he is writting.

Nope wrong again, i think Grampy alteady pointed out to you that he has been on numerous track jobs of gut shot deer that were shot with various calibers. The results were equally the same, a gut shot deer.

Thats not what you stated in your op, but i see how you are now changing the tune, now that one member happened to mention the 243. Originally your argument was that a hunter should use the largest caliber possible without flinching and now you are comparing higher and lower end of what most people use, whatever that is.