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Dr Stella Immanuel mentions Fauci's comments from 2005 in the NIH about hydroxychloroquine, how it is effective, how the entire CV-19 situation is scary because it is being abused as a tool of fear to get people to "do what they're told." https://www.prageru.com/video/the-candace-owens-show-dr-stella-immanuel/?utm_source=Main+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=35dd04f666-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_10_18_2020_5_24_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f90832343d-35dd04f666-172460857

Anyone on Trump's side is equally hated by people who hate Trump.

America has seen a massive amount of encroachment on Constitutional rights, liberties and freedom since it's founding, we have little left to defend already. The draft was one thing we decided to let the government do without Constitutional authority. That's just one example of how US citizens voluntarily gave up their rights to their own detriment. People have become so complacent with government overreach, they will chastise other people who are opposed to it. That's how far the government's control over the people has advanced.

Soldiers sign away all of their Constitutional rights when they join the military and must follows orders under severe penalty for non-compliance. Is that what we want the US to do to it's citizens today? I doubt those soldiers would be happy knowing they died for our freedom and people today so willingly let the government take those freedoms away. The Constitution does not give the government any authority to do any of the things it is demanding people do at this time. Some will comply, some will not. They have every right not to. The government is not considered to be very good at solving problems, yet some people think it is the solution to all our problems. And if you think the problems the government creates are bad, just wait until you see their "solutions".

This is why I don't debate leftists. They aren't capable of reasoning.

Yet half of the American electorate still votes for them. The leftists know their supporters are gullible and full of hate. That's what they zero in on during every campaign.

Let's just say I have no intention of ever getting the vaccine.

Why are leftists suddenly so interested in evidence? They have had no interest in evidence regarding allegations ever since Trump was elected.

Yeah only less than 1% die. Same as without the vaccine.

When I snap a cap on my T/C Hawken, I put a small piece of cloth in the muzzle first. If it blows out when the cap snaps, it's all clear. If the cap snaps and it doesn't blow out, there's something blocking the cap and a misfire will happen if it's loaded without clearing it.

Trump lays out the issues the main stream media with holds from the public.

Tell me who went to jail because of the "Russian Collusion" issue and what they were charged with. Here's a clue. Nobody was ever charged with anything related to collusion. They were charged with things that were uncovered during the investigation that had NOTHING to do with the collusion myth. The Soviets had a saying, "You show me the man, and I will show you the crime." In America we are supposed to start an investigation after a crime is committed. This was an investigation looking for crimes. And when they found something on somebody, they told them to lie for the prosecution or go to jail. Welcome to Amerika comrade. I'm glad to know people in this land support such communist activity. BTW, the one man they could not find committed any crimes, was Donald Trump.

JOSH HAMMER / NOV. 13, 2020 The Gaslighting of the American People Free republics do not long survive in a state like this. PRINTLISTEN Members of the Electoral College do not formally congregate to elect the next president of the United States until Dec. 14, but as far as the media, Hollywood and the Fortune 500 are concerned, former Vice President Joe Biden is already president-elect. This, notwithstanding the fact that President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign, having alleged various abnormalities and irregularities in this unusual midpandemic voting process, is currently pursuing legal recourse across myriad closely contested battleground states. The Constitution, of course, does not specify the media, Hollywood and the Fortune 500 as the determiners of our presidential election. We have a rule of law, and we have specific legally prescribed mechanisms and deadlines in place. But supporters of Trump are nonetheless being told to sit down, shut up and not ask any questions. Just submit to your new ruler, we are told by supercilious elites. But Trump supporters might be readily forgiven for not submitting to their prospective new rulers with alacrity. In fact, the pansocietal effort we are now watching unfold before our eyes is the culmination of four years of a sustained, systemic gaslighting of the American people. It is no small irony that those now united in bellowing from the hilltops about the dangers of not accepting election outcomes and delegitimizing election results are the same people who never accepted the legitimacy of Trump’s presidency to begin with. Who can forget how, on the day after Inauguration Day 2017, leftists followed the lead of Jew-haters such as Linda Sarsour and Tamika Mallory in planning a rival event, intended to overshadow the inauguration, which was the first Women’s March? Who can forget how leftists have invariably clamored about how Trump is a nefarious Russian agent, a Manchurian candidate and a Vladimir Putin stooge, who was only “elected” due to a biased FBI director’s “October surprise” announcement (laughable) and Russian bots manipulating voters on social media (even more laughable)? For the past four years, leftist activists and the Democratic Party have tried their very best to out Trump in any way possible, including hallucinogenic dreams of a 25th Amendment invocation and a totally unhinged, baseless and petty impeachment push. They have stymied the administration’s attempts to effectuate substantive good governance initiatives through a veritable hodgepodge of obstructive probes, investigations and manufactured scandals. The most prominent of these, the Russiagate collusion hoax, cast a media frenzy-driven pall over the first two years of the administration and ended up as a complete bust. Democrats’ risible impeachment push, based on a brief phone call between Trump and the Ukrainian premier, was so quickly discredited that it became a total nonissue — if anything, an affirmative hindrance for Democrats — in the 2020 election. Meanwhile, the media at every turn has sought to portray Trump as a racist white supremacist reprobate, notwithstanding the fact he has an Orthodox Jewish daughter and Jewish grandchildren. The media and Democrats have repeatedly lied about what Trump did and did not say after the violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017, and have routinely lumped together all Trump supporters as a bunch of backwoods yahoos — “deplorables,” to borrow Hillary Clinton’s infamous phrasing — who pine for those ostensible halcyon days of (actual) systemic racism pervading the nation. The media has often railed against the alleged violent tendencies of gun-toting Trump supporters, but as the anarchy of Portland, Oregon, helped make clear a few months ago, the most conspicuous threat in this nation is that posed to conservatives by the Democratic Party’s rabid, vindictive antifa-Black Lives Matter wing. But it gets even worse. In this unprecedented of elections, many states illegally changed their basic election/voting-related laws midstream — and invariably had those illicit attempts to deprive state legislatures of their plenary power over election regulation bestowed legitimacy by state and federal courts alike. Democrats and Never-Trump Republicans hosted war game exercises where they mused longingly about a military coup. The Democratic attorney general in a key swing state, Pennsylvania, boasted before Election Day about how Biden would surely prevail. The political polling industry, which apparently failed to correct any of its errors from the 2016 election, was so catastrophically off that one must seriously wonder whether any pollsters may have deliberately misled prospective voters in a psychological attempt to artificially depress GOP turnout. In Wisconsin, which Biden ultimately carried by less than 1%, the ABC/Washington Post poll less than a week before election day had Biden up a whopping 17 points. It is difficult to contemplate how a pollster can be that off the mark. And now, after four years of relentlessly fighting a president they never accepted, engaging in the most sordid of unsubstantiated character assassination campaigns against that president’s second Supreme Court nominee, and peculiarly low rejection rates for mail-in ballots after much higher rejection rates in the primaries, while the president pursues the remedial legal actions to which he is entitled, they have the temerity to tell us all to pipe down and get on board with calling Biden “president-elect.” In a word: No. Free republics do not long survive in a state like this — not when the entire country’s ruling class, and all its sundry leading institutions, are in a de facto state of war with half of the citizenry. Stop gaslighting us — and do it now.

The real concern is why so many Americans legitimately voted for Biden, a man who is clearly mentally inadequate, stunningly corrupt, and is surrounded by people of like stature. No matter who is declared the winner of this election, America is in deep trouble. As people flee California to get away from the leftist insanity that corrupts that state, to states like Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado, etc. they continue to support and vote for the very same kind of people and policies they’re fleeing. How can that be considered anything less than insanity?

Daniel Greenfield wrote,

Sworn, sign affidavits are considered evidence and there are thousands of them filed with the court papers already.

Care to back up this statement with some examples? I don't see the connection.

Democrats have said they want to put low income housing in the suburbs. That will not enhance the quality of life for people who worked hard and pay very high taxes to live in a nice neighborhood. It's a form of forced mediocrity.

Give me a cogent argument to work with. I can respectfully address anyone while aggressively challenging their dangerous beliefs. This is not inconsistent. Do you deny Democrats are the party that supports all things LGBTQ and everything about those lifestyles? Do you deny all of the Democrat elected officials that have been guilty of perverted sexual activity while in office? Do you deny Jeff Epstein was a Democrat and catered to Democrats? Do you deny Democrats fight for homosexuals to have relations with minors with impunity like they just made a misdemeanor in California? Do you deny Democrats are the ones pushing partial birth abortions as well as infanticide if a baby survives the abortion and is born alive? Do you deny legalized drugs, including meth and heroin are Democrat sponsored laws like the ones just passed in Oregon? Do you deny Democrats fight allowing you the right to defend yourself from people who want you dead? How is this an insult to Democrats when they proudly stand behind these beliefs? I'm not trying to insult Democrats. I'm holding a mirror up to them so they have to accept their reputation.

If it happens it will be because of the Rule of Law and the US Constitution. The SCOTUS is not supposed to be politically partisan. It is when the activist judges on it do not follow the Rule of Law. We are a representative republic guided by law. If it is proven Trump won, the SCOTUS must declare he won by law. When the rioting and burning starts, that's when the Rule of Law is being ignored and lawlessness begins. That is when leftists start trying to completely force their will on everyone else and destroy the country.

I agree. Plenty of people voted with emotion rather than logic. They acted like spoiled children who break their toys when things don't go their way. Now the will come to understand the consequences of their actions.

One person? This is what he did for the country. It positively effected everyone in this country. America as a whole? Maybe half of America if the votes were actually legal. And the half that opposed him did so in spite of everything he did that made America a better place for all of it's citizens. One can only surmise those who did not vote for him do not like the things he did for America. That would mean they do not want America to be better. They claim they didn't like what they saw in his personality, and if true, they voted to destroy the country based on emotion. That is a very immature way of making a very important decision. Now they will like a man and woman that have said they will reverse everything Trump did and impose all sorts of unconstitutional mandates that will destroy the country, the economy and the Constitution. They are either very ignorant of the man's agenda, or support it because they also hate what America is today. You can't say you love America, but want to fundamentally change everything about it. That's not logical.

Leftists will never debate issue on a one on one basis, because they know their argument will not win the debate. Therefore, they resort to the tactics we see being used here. Name calling, personal attacks and one line comebacks with no facts or evidence cited to back up mindless accusations. They belong to a cult, one that is 50% indoctrinated, brainwashed loyalty to propaganda, and 50% hatred of all things that oppose their beliefs. It is very dangerous for America. These people are not looking for unity. They want submission. They need to be reminded they live in a country that has never submitted to tyranny or totalitarian oppression. You want conservative support? You need to earn it. You have always demanded compromise when not in power, but don't offer anything besides tyranny and repression when in power. You need to practice what you preach and offer respect to the opposition. Otherwise there will never be any peace. If Biden actually become POTUS, and leftists continue to act superior, it's going to be a very tense 4 years.

Republicans and conservatives keep it private. Nothing Trump has done would surprise me, but he never did any of it as President. Can Democrats say the same? Perverted leftists pass laws to make sexual perversion and drug abuse a legislated right so nobody can stop it. They have tried to "normalize" so much immoral and valueless perverted activity, they have no idea what morals and values are anymore. I welcome leftists ignoring me. It's better than listening to them attacking me rather than the points I make. Now if you consider yourself a liberal, rather than a leftist, look into the difference. Liberals are all about freedom, whereas leftists want to silence everyone who disagrees with them. They're totalitarian authoritarians, not unlike the Soviets were. It's Communism and tyranny against the individual. Is that you?