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Does anyone know how many deer die from coyote predation,disease,old age and from motor vehicles. Even if hunter reporting rates were 100% would it make any difference in the DEC deer management policy. I would think that habit degradation due to overbrowsing by deer is the most important statistic when it comes to deer management and this important topic is never discussed or considered. The DEC has a tough job. Consider dwindling hunter numbers and the fact the majority of land available for deer hunting (excluding the ADAKS) lies in private handes. The DEC cannot control deer populations in those areas. Alas, they are in a no win situation.

Bottom seeds rarely succeed. The Caps and Flyers are superior teams. As a lifelong Rangers fan I am optimistic, however the reality is that the team just cannot score goals and their power play is terrible.

Go Flyers :-*

Ye had their hands full of WINNING. ;D Only 1 game,relax, then you can panic.

I hate to admit it but the Flyers are really good, the Sabers have their hands full.

I just hate those F'ers as much as those filthies in the NL. The Sabres have their hands full with all those big Flyer fowards. Should be a good game. Best of luck to them.

I thought I would be the first to post about the loss! Better not jinx yourself like that Woly! Great defensive game, Rangers ran out of gas. The OT period they gave away the puck so many times trying to clear it from their end. Burt, the Rangers just cannot score. Nevertheless, its only the first game.

Flyers in Five ???

We are IN AND the Rangers are very close to being OUT. Sabres, are the KINGS of New York. They are most certainly not!

That's fine. But they are still The Rules of Fair Chase. Seemingly the rules of "fair chase" were amended when compound bows were first introduced as well as in line muzzleloaders.

Pour some vegetable oil in the barrel, it will prevent the larvae from emerging by cutting off their oxygen supply.

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Could you point me to that DEC wording, please? Seems to me that the DEC should not be voicing any opinions about illegal weapons. The data does not support that statement, or you and Culver's opinion. There are more crossbow hunters than bowhunters in OH. The gap gets bigger each year. So What! Did it result in more hunters partaking in the archery season? Were more deer killed to satisfy the goals of the Ohio DNR. Did hunter numbers increase/decline as a result of the inclusion of crossbows? Apparently, crossbow hunting is a win/win situation for the Ohio hunting community. When VA legalized crossbows, they lost 14,000 bowhunters in 2 years. Where did they go, a retirement community in Florida?

"The process of moving from harvest reports to harvest estimates is fundamentally quite simple. At its essence, harvest calculation involves the number of deer reported, the number of deer checked by DEC staff, and the number of deer that were both reported and checked. With these numbers we can determine a reporting rate and then calculate the number of deer actually harvested. Our concern with current reporting rates is not the resulting quality of our harvest estimates. Rather, we are concerned that low reporting rates may reflect a declining awareness among hunters about the important role they have in the game management process. Hunters in New York and across the nation face a growing battle to preserve the heritage and traditions they enjoy. Demonstrating to the general public that the hunting community takes seriously their role as cooperators in the game management process is an important element in maintaining their credibility and preserving their hunting traditions. Participation through game harvest reporting is integral in this process." The emboldened paragraph describes the root cause of our argument!

Lets hope that lightning strikes multiple times tonight! :-\

"FISH ON"

Deer Harvest Reporting and Harvest Calculation The subject of mandatory harvest reporting routinely surfaces in numerous letters and emails to the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC), in letters to the NY Outdoor News, other newspapers and even in a resolution from a county sportsman's federation. These letters often imply that the current harvest reporting system is voluntary. In fact, game harvest reporting in New York is mandatory, and State regulations are very specific that a hunter who has taken a deer, bear, or turkey must report the harvest within 7 days of taking the animal. Though this article focuses on the importance of reporting a deer harvest, accurate estimation of bear and turkey harvests also relies on hunter reports. Some people have suggested that we should change our system to require reports from all hunters, successful or not, and that non-reporters should be denied a license the next year. These ideas and others have been discussed within DEC in the past, however all harvest reporting scenarios have both positive and negative aspects. Across the nation, a variety of methods are used to estimate annual deer harvests including use of mandatory check stations and deer check at meat lockers, mail questionnaires, report cards, telephone surveys, and telephone and internet reporting. No one method is perfect, and all state agencies must deal with incomplete reporting. Ultimately, the adage, "if it's not broken, don't fix it," comes into play. Suggestions to change DEC's harvest reporting system, while well intentioned, typically stem from a misunderstanding of how the system works and a belief that our current system is not sufficient for accurate harvest estimates or proper deer management. This simply is not the case. Our system for calculating deer harvests was audited by a private group of professional statisticians in 1990 and was found to be very solid and produce highly reliable harvest estimates. In 2006, approximately 45% of successful deer hunters in New York reported their harvest. While the reporting rate is lower than we would prefer, the combination of harvest reports and more than 15,000 deer checked by DEC staff in the field, yielded a 2006 harvest estimate that was statistically accurate to within ±1.9%. Ten years ago, when reporting rates averaged 60-65%, harvest estimates were accurate to within 1-2%. Our accuracy has not changed, because the methodology and statistics involved are sound. That said, we would still like to see reporting rates climb. In 2002, when we dropped the paper based reporting system and initiated the automated licensing system (DECALS), our deer harvest reporting rates dropped from 60% to 46%. That first year was a real trial and error year with glitches in the system that dropped calls and turned a lot of hunters away. Since then, we have made significant improvements, and the telephone reporting process today is much smoother. We expect to soon begin using voice recognition software on the telephone reporting system and also to begin accepting harvest reports via the internet. We hope that these improvements will continue to make harvest reporting easier for hunters. Harvest reporting is essential for proper deer management, and when hunters report their harvest, they perform a crucial step in the management process. Hunters are the sole source of two critical pieces of harvest information - when and where deer are taken. These data are used, together with reporting rates, to estimate the number of deer harvested in each town, county, and Wildlife Management Unit throughout the State. Biological information that is essential for management, such as sex, age, and antler data, is generated through the thousands of deer examined by DEC staff each fall. The process of moving from harvest reports to harvest estimates is fundamentally quite simple. At its essence, harvest calculation involves the number of deer reported, the number of deer checked by DEC staff, and the number of deer that were both reported and checked. With these numbers we can determine a reporting rate and then calculate the number of deer actually harvested. Our concern with current reporting rates is not the resulting quality of our harvest estimates. Rather, we are concerned that low reporting rates may reflect a declining awareness among hunters about the important role they have in the game management process. Hunters in New York and across the nation face a growing battle to preserve the heritage and traditions they enjoy. Demonstrating to the general public that the hunting community takes seriously their role as cooperators in the game management process is an important element in maintaining their credibility and preserving their hunting traditions. Participation through game harvest reporting is integral in this process.

Your argument would be better served if it was directed at the those hunters (nearly) 55% who do not report their kills. As it stands their model for estimating the total deer kill is based upon sound statistics and science.

Root for the Rangers on March 30! :-*

http://buffalo.uwex.edu/files/2011/0...he-new-fad.pdf

Failure to plan is planning to fail!

http://www.tn.gov/twra/images2/deertransects.png[/img] As nice as it would have been to go out and simply count deer, we knew that was not a viable option for coming up with an accurate population estimate. Without a doubt, we would miss deer on our surveys thus leading to a lower population than what was truly out there. Therefore our agency opted to incorporate a method called distance sampling. As complicated as it appears (trust us there's a lot of math), when it is described in the simplest, most folks can understand it. Below is a link that will hopefully help folks understand distance sampling. http://web.me.com/tnwildlife/DistanceSampling/Distance_Sampling.html The first video describes how distance sampling works, while the second video works through a simple math problem and introduces our Area 22 Study. It is our intention to take these studies statewide to determine deer densities across our landscape. Above is one snippet gleaned from the Tenn DNR website. It is a very interesting website.

NY Big Game, DEC continues to refine strategies and recommendations in development of a 5-year deer management plan for New York State. We anticipate that the plan will be available for public review and comment by late May or early June. This time frame will also allow us to conclude a summary assessment of the pilot antler restriction program in the southern Catskills and address the future of mandatory antler restrictions in the pilot area and elsewhere in the deer management plan. Recently, several erroneous claims have circulated in some New York hunting blogs, online forums and news articles, implying that DEC intends to shut down the pilot antler restriction program regardless of hunter interests. These claims have no base. DEC does not have pre-determined intentions for the pilot antler restriction program but will use results of the summary assessment to help determine the future of the program. Preliminary information about the deer management plan is available at www.dec.ny.gov/animals/7211.html, and a description of the antler restriction issue in New York is available at www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/27663.html. Jeremy Hurst Big Game Biologist

Good point....now would somebody like to remind our elected officials of that? ??? They just waste tax payer money.