jjb4900

take a look at L.I. fireman.....all volunteers, do it all for nothing, and I'm sure many other places are the same.....volunteer ambulance company's, volunteer firefighter's....they do it all for pretty much nothing....not every place gets paid, I'd give them the shirt off my back to keep them doing what they do....and most paid dept's are far from rich, I have no problem giving them the best tools they need to the their job....they don't benefit from the new toys, the people they serve do.

"IF" I was a cop or fireman, I'll take the early retirement over serving people better....if that's what they want.

as long as the people who really benefit from it understand that they may get sub par service because of less then reliable equipment those guys have to work with.......you have to realize that equipment advancements that cost money, benefit the people they serve more than they do the people who get them in order to serve the people better....I'm sure the average cop or fireman would be content with less then the latest gadgets, but who would really suffer?

The more I think about it, the more I think I'll leave the deer around our place in the Catskills alone, Ar's and few doe make it hard to keep me motivated.......I'll make a few trips up to sit around the fire and smoke a few cigars and take in the sights and smells that keep me coming back and enjoy some good company, maybe I'll try some small game hunting.......I'll get all my venison down on L.I.

I'm pretty sure there are standards that are set as to when a police vehicle should be decommissioned, when bullet proof vests should be replaced, how often service ammo should be replaced and how often weapons should be replaced.......I would guess that every agency would try to stretch it as far as possible to get every nickel out of everything they could, but there also has to be someone who keeps that in check as well......it's quite different from the guy who drives 45 miles an hour to work that's 2 miles from home everyday or the taxi driver who drive's 5 miles an hour in stop and go traffic for 8 hours a day...these are guys who may have to drive a 100 miles an hour to catch someone who just murdered your wife and kids, I would hope you would want them to have the best equipment to do that job, if not I don't know what to tell you.....I don't know why anyone would complain about that, but have at it if you want.

can a police vehicle be both civilian and a police vehicle? pretty sure he was talking about a vehicle, not a person.

like I said earlier, many taxis are old police cars bought at auction............and I almost puked in my mouth just thinking that someone would put Police on the same level as taxi drivers......

new Police cars are the least of my worries when it comes to wasteful government spending.......like I mentioned earlier, at least we can benefit from them at some point..........I wonder how many government officials have take home cars and free tax payer provided gas and ezpass that is only used to get them to and from their gov't office jobs? the spending is disgusting, and I realize it's easy to point the finger at what we can actually see with our eyes, but it is even more disgusting what the average person does not see......you can even go as far as to look at our utility companies who do the same and pass that cost on to us.

yeah, look at engine hours instead of mileage..........Police car usually ='s 24 hours a day, average civilian car ='s less than 2 (on average)..........big difference.

yeah, but at least if I call the Police they will come and hopefully the problem will get resolved or at the very least they will have to listen to me bitch for 30 minutes or so...........where will I ever get the chance to cash in on a Welfare recipient?...just imagine this phone call "Hello, is this 911? yes it is sir, how can we help you?...... my grass is getting too high what should I do?.....stay on the line with me sir and don't panic, we have a welfare recipient on the way to cut it for you..."

he would crush it with a Crucifix....................but seriously, the whole argument to keep them out of bowseason falls on their superiority to the longbow, unless I'm missing something.

the funny thing is, is that many taxi cabs are decommissioned police cars that are bought at auction.....

the waste we see is nothing compared to what we don't............

of course they're not the same, that's why many believe they should have separate seasons......and you do realize the argument you put forth is the same one that the anti crossbow crowd has to keep it out of bowseason, do you not?

I wonder what costs more, replacing a Police car or supporting a family of 5 or 6 via our Welfare system for a year or ten????????? and hey, the Police may actually be of some use to one of us some day....the latter? not so much.

I guess you just gotta hope that the day you or a family member needs The Police, is not the same day the car they're responding in decides to crap out.......but seriously, I think the theory is that the older and more mileage there is on a car, the more it costs to maintain.........and obviously this is mostly true for fleet vehicles, not cars that are cared for by the owner.

we have a very small client base. that's what we were saying, they are very small clients......

you could probably catch them with just a stick and a line with a hook and bait attached....no need to pack a pole.

the first question I would ask, is what was the animal wearing.....good chance it brought it on itself.............damn sexy animals!!!

their heads are so tiny....

trophy hunting makes people do questionable things.........heck, I may just screw an extra point on all the whopper 4pts I've been seeing in the Catskills since they started the antler restrictions 3 years ago just to tag my trophy.

or maybe he just guides a lot of very small hunters..........

there's been years I've only gotten to use my gun once..........no xtra tags.

I need details!!!!!!!!!

I have a weapon for every season and or opportunity to hunt deer knowing full well that I may very well not get to use many of them.........never looked at it as a waste of money, just something to keep me in the game if one doesn't pan out.