Bballhunter11

We are going to upper Quebec 65 miles N.E. of Senneterre, Quebec. This is our first year going and i worry about a bear getting one of my cams destroyed while up there.

that good to hear that they are hitting baits hard. Where in canada are u going? i cant wait to get headed north and get tons of fishing and hunting in.

woops sorry bob i thought u put the beaver creek state forest, not beaver meadow. Sorry i dont have much to help in beaver meadow.

Give me more of an idea where exactly you are looking at that state forest is 10s of thousands of acres lol i live very close to the state forest. I know deer populations are strong in the state forest and people get coyotes in there quite a bit but not sure about turkeys.

Yea we are leaving the 26th, going up to Quebec for both fishing and bear. Baits supposed to be pretty hot that early

hahaha was just looking at those same charts culver, pretty much identical characteristics there

But we are also splitting hairs comparing these two calibers, isnt it something that we can come up with so much to talk about when two things only vary by 0.024". Now if we were to compare the dinosaur we all seem to shoot any way the 30-06, now there is a recoil difference hahaha. 7-08 shoots a tad flatter, and culver they are currently shooting 140gr loads out of the 7-08 with an upgrade to 160gr for the bear hunt. Looking at factory ballistics charts i think they also load the 7-08 low but maybe not i havent had a chance to shoot my handloads yet as my scope just arrived today.

Culver you are absolutely correct with that equation but that is what is called an ideal equation as it omits friction, which is where the 7mm surpasses the 30 cal,a 7mm bullet experiences less friction than the 308 allowing the 7-08 cartridges to start out with less muzzle velocity and still equal the same Energy on target as the 308 and allows you to use lighter bullets further decrease recoil. So velocity and bullet weight being being equal recoil will be the same but the 7mm-08 will actually hit harder on target than the 308.

Same here culver my main hunting round is an 30-06, a 7-08 i think has a considerable amount of less recoil than a 308. It takes less energy to push a 7mm bullet to same or high velocitys than it does an 30 caliber round thus producing less recoil. Not much of a difference for you and me but for my younger brother and girlfriend who are less than 150 pounds it makes it a manageable round for them to hunt with. 7mm is a little cheaper to reload than 308 but factory like you said 308 has surplus. 7mm also has a small ballistic advantage. So 7mm uses less powder, produces less recoil and still hits just as hard at a 30 caliber are the reasons i am looking at it

my younger brother has used it on deer here for 3-4 years and i have taken a couple deer with it and was quite impressed with it. We bought a second one to have before last deer season. Havent shot anything bigger than deer with it yet but it is going on a bear hunt in two weeks. I dont have anything negative to say about it except ammo scarcity, so if u reload or just order a good amount to keep in stock its a great round. Have you ever shot one ny?

Any outdoor shops around me are carrying such a small selection of ammo recently i cant find anything i like there any way which is why i began handloading. Hunt ill try and get ahold of that magizene and take a look. The 7-08 is a joy to shoot all day compared to its other 7mm cousins lol handloading will probably be my only source of ammo from now on

Thanks for all the quick answers. I am getting into reloading currently, i have to in order to shoot 222 magnum at all it isnt commercially available and brass is 40.00 per hundred so anything i choose to shoot along with it will be close in price a little less or little more. Culver just for fun currently but we are shooting clay pigeons at 200+ yards currently (a competition will no doubt develop soon in the group) and looking at the possibility of entering F-class or high power in the future, some shoots are held very close to where i live. Competitions in my area i think are 300 yards, simulation 600. I really like the 7mm-08 cartridge from hunting experience because of the accuracy of the 7mm bullet and the low recoil from the 308 case.

Ok probably going to get a hundred different answers here but thats kind of what im looking for. If you had to pick a caliber to have a target rifle in what would it be and why? Im considering bolt action rifle chamberings right now and am just comparing differences in cartridges such as 204 ruger, 223, 260, 7mm-08, 308, 25-06 ect. Any opinions or research is welcome thanks alot

Sounds like a great way to practice, i would love to go but just a little on the far side haha good luck with the shoots though

20 mm would make it 79 caliber wow thats just painful to even imagine

Might be a little on the light side eddie have to be careful with bullet selection hahahah

Does anyone own one of these bows or know any one who owns one. Im thinking of picking one up for a person just getting into archery and at 280.00 all set up it has a lot of attractive features. Accessories may not be top of the line that come with it but dont need to be. Any general thoughts on this bow package would be greatly appreciated.

Not sure exactly where in the southern tier you are but here are all the shoots around my area, http://www.tollgatearchery.com

Well yesterday a lot was melting due to the rain but today we got another 4 inches and it is a blizzard right now. By this weekend all the new snow should be gone. Where in hamilton are u located Sambuca im very close to that area.

Yea who ever named it global warming didnt have all the information its is a terrible name to describe what is taking place. Climate change is much more accurate and is what is mostly used in the scientific community.

hahahaha not sure where u guys are getting your climate change info but i agree with all of u that we had enough snow about a month ago.

History repeats it self over and over we arm a group of people to fight another force and our weapons always come back to shoot at us. I would guess that helping these people in a limited way may sway some of there opinions maybe not but leaving the current government in place is not helping anyone worldwide. Only time will tell what the results will be. What would have been your plan on Libya?

Well from the sounds of the presidents plan looks like we are mostly getting out of that country for the time being. We are supposed to have a less than "limited" role in the NATO alliance now.

If someone wants to buy the saw to makes this arrow jig i have one i would be willing to sell.

All good points Gman but that was pretty funny fasteddie hahaha