nyantler

Awesome! Just curious ... whay 62? Do you have a rifle of that caliber too?

None of this is about TDM you say, yet you quote from a trophy buck farmer on deer management. I think we're done here.

You are really good at cut and paste... good for you.

Yes.. It's a perfect example of trophy buck management... good job!

You still arent getting that what you are doing isn't deer management... its buck management and they're two different things. You have to go back a long way to research my roll in introducing Quality Deer Management here in NY. You were probably just a kid. Like I said... you aren't looking in the right places. You shouldn't look at this as a contest between you and I, but rather a learning experience for you. I regret every day that I spent introducing QDM to NY... worse thing that's ever happened to deer hunting. Best thing that has ever happened to those that have capitalized on the sale of hunting products.

You just need to know where to look... LOL

LOL You just proved my point if that's where you're getting your info. Carry on. Make sure you get the big bag of seed and the more expensive trail cam... they wouldn't have it any other way.

Like I said... If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand.

Or we could just let a hunter take the deer he wants when he wants and mind our own business. I notice you like to use possesives when you speak about deer and deer herds... they do not belong to any individual. Planting food plots and setting cameras to surveille bucks was never part of any deer management program... that was a creation of the QDMA. So lets stop pretending that its deer management and call it what it is... trophy buck management. It has done nothing more than create a breed of self serving hunters who show distain for their fellow hunters that choose to hunt a different way and take a different sized legal buck. It, in know way,is related to how good of a steward of conservation one is. Some hunters may not be the magnificent hunter that you seem to think you are... they just enjoy being out in the woods hoping to get lucky enough to see and take the deer of their choice without some "Im a better hunter than you" loud mouth ruining it all for him. I promise you I could tear down everything you think you know about deer management and what you think it is all about, but I'm not the deer hunting police and you wouldn't understand it anyway. I perfer to let you hunt the way you choose as long as it's within the law and leave others to do the same.

Your idea of deer management has nothing to do with conservation and everything to do with your selfish approach to what hunting is all about. I bet you even have one of those " Hit Lists" were you rank which bucks you're after. LOL As long as you're lecturing everyone on when and how long they should hunt... give us your perspective on what we should wear, what gun we should shoot, the areas we should hunt, what time we should rise in the morning... It would really help the rest of us dummies to make sure we are doing it just the way you like. Well managed herds... HAHA... there is no such thing... only trophy managed herds for selfish hunters who know little to nothing about deer management or conservation.

Here is a story most don't know about the Roosevelt Luckey sheds found the year before the buck was killed... then stolen from the NYS Fair and recovered years later. https://extapps.dec.ny.gov/docs/administration_pdf/0210caseclosed.pdf The sheds actually scored higher and would have beaten the Jordan buck for the world record had it been taken by a hunter that year.

Fun fact.. the non-typical NY state record Boylan Buck was also taken in 1939 and also in Allegany County.

I often think of how different it was when you didn't have the safety net of being able to return to civilization if the life got too hard. There was no one to call to come save you if you got into trouble. No planes flying in provisions or carrying you to a hospital if you got sick. Much different when it is a choice and not the reality of life. Still an impressive feat if you can do it.

I'm a terrible hunter!!

Not really interested in trail cameras for hunting. But, it is fun sometimes having someone show you a pic of your live buck after you've killed it. I've always been one to find a more challenging way to hunt rather than an eaiser way. In my opinion cameras are stretching the definition of "fair chase". But, to each his own as long as it's legal.