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Considering the fall started at the beginning of august, I feel it will be a brutal winter. I have no idea in truth if a cold summer portends that or not, but what a joke of a summer it's been!

Sorry, my bad. You actually said "Do you think a sniper plans on missing by more than an 1" at even 1,000 yards? " which means you clearly think snipers in the field are getting sub 2" groups on targets in battle @ 1000 yards. This is demonstrably false.

And they were all sold out by mid morning. It was definitely the sniper 370 and not the centerpoint recurve.

I think there is what people say on a forum: "I will never shoot a deer past 30" and what happens in real life "It was 44 yards and a bit far but I practiced out that far and dang it I ended up hitting it in the leg and it ran off and I never got it again".

Well to be sure there's no rifle on the planet that can consistently group 1" at 1000 yards (in fact, it has never once been done in competition from what I can tell). The very best sniper rifles shot from machines don't group nearly that tight. So irrespective of the guy shooting, the gun is literally incapable of it. We can safely conclude snipers fully expect they will be missing by more than an inch, particularly since most of them won't be as good as the best competition shooters in the world in perfect conditions.

Man oh man this thing is now $219 shipped, new, on ebay. And it's from ohio so not even taxed. How low is this going to go before I pull the trigger on it?!

And there's Tim Wells who's videos have to be seen to be believed.

Oh good heavens I thought you were joking. https://breadcrumbtech.com/bluetooth-nock/ I made a silly thread last year wondering if we could coat our arrows in radioactive dust and use a Geiger counter to track wounded deer.

I got the nocturnals last year. I freaking love them, let's just get that out of the way. I love shooting the 50 yard target with them. I like shooting them indoors. I like that I can even put my iphone on slo motion and shoot them and I can in fact see how much fishtailing the arrow is doing. I only got once chance last year to shoot at a deer with the lighted, but it was really nice knowing exactly where I had hit him. Since I am borderline obsessive, I weighed my nocks and then I took my regular plastic nocks and filled them with epoxy and BBs so that they would equal the weight of the lighted. Now when I practice I know my practice plastic nocks are the exact same weight as the lighted, since I don't use the lighted a ton for practice. There is no drawback to using them besides the few dollars cost. Worst case they don't turn on (I had one fail of four during my various practice sessions). I'm pretty cheap in general but I really think I am sold on sticking with lighted nocks. $20-25 for a pack of 3 is a really small price to pay, and how much do most of us blow on hunting gear each year?

Let's just say I've seen plenty of people shooting at the 20 and their group is so huge I don't know exactly what point on the 20 they are even aiming for. Just seems center mass, with groups easily a foot in size.

But with a bow?

Remember, though, this actually requests that you are not off by more than 4.5". I can tell you I've seen a lot of bow hunters at my range who would fail that test.

Nobody can consistently group 1 inch at 250 yards. I can do 3" at 100 yards consistently, but I don't consider myself that great. Wait, unless you're talking about rifle and not bow? Yeah, 1 inch at 250 offhand is minimum IMO. If you can't get sub MOA groups off hand, with iron sights, you have no business hunting.

This is true. I'm honestly still open to a nice piece of land. We all spend money on stuff we don't need, so if you really think you want land, it's a better way to blow money than on a car, like you said.

Yeah, I get that. I pushed very, very hard this year looking for land for partly the same reason. I want it now. I don't want it when I'm 55 and the kids are gone and I'm basically maintaining land and mowing a bunch just for myself. I gave up on it this year because it's not doable in my area without paying spectacular costs (I'm possibly in the worst suburb of rochester to get a house with land). But, things have a way of working out. Shortly after giving up I visited a friend's place and it's exactly what I would have loved: 20+ acres surrounded by crops and he has a refuge of trees with water down the middle. It's not over-populated with trees, and he keeps it mowed with his own trails. He has so many deer he doesn't know what to do with them so I'll be there every weekend this fall by the look of it. I'll pay him a day of labor cutting firewood.

I guarantee in western new york it doesn't appreciate this quickly (at least not most of it). Certainly not after costs anyway. I'll start by saying I want some land myself to hunt on. But that said, it is a bad investment. Don't get it to make money, get it if you want it, but don't pretend it's a good investment. Here's a scenario recently. A guy asked if I wanted to lease his land close to my house. About $20/acre. 45 acres. This land is probably worth $150k. If I had $150k sitting in a bank account, what's the smart thing to do here? Buy his land and pay property taxes each year so I can hunt it, or stick that into the stock market, collect $12k/year, subtract $1k from that 12 to pay for the lease? The latter, obviously. That way I'm also pretty liquid and can get that money if I want. And despite its ups and downs, the stock market requires no time or effort and long term it reliably offers gains superior to land investing in most areas. Our property taxes make land investing particularly problematic. Until recently I was trying to buy land to build a home on. It proved very hard because the little remaining land left the landowners are greedy fools. I know they are greedy because the amount of money they are asking is so high that they let land sit on the market for years (overvalued). But, they think they are sitting on a gold mine. One guy in particular comes to mind he's now churning through realtors, he's been trying to sell his land for over five years. Had he simply taken an offer (I know he got a decent one) early on and put it in the stock market he'd already be ahead of where his current asking price is. Instead he sits there with all his equity tied up in a piece of land that he doesn't live on, and I doubt the farmer who farms it is even covering his annual tax burden. Another guy has been trying to sell his for over a decade. But he's just stubborn. Meanwhile what has the stock market done in the past decade? It's hard to put money value to land you'll use a lot. if you think you will, go ahead and do it. I would, too. I would recommend against unless you think you'll use it a lot, though, as your money can better serve you elsewhere if you're looking to grow it.

A check from a bank is equivalent to cash. I'd rather a cashier's check from a credit union than a pile of cash. I know some local CUs will let you buy land with 30% down and about a 6% interest rate. If you have home equity that would be even better (assuming you need a loan). Lower interest rate and tax deductible!

I use a $40 Kindle Fire. All of my cams are running microsd with full size adapters and then I just pop the micro out and put it into the kindle and I'm off to the races. Why pay more for a device that only checks full size sd cards? With a hot spot via my phone I can even use amazon photos to sync the pics back up to the internet then clear them off the card.

"You wont convince me otherwise." I won't attempt to further. I've expended the maximum effort I intend to explaining how "a lot" != "most". That's it; I'm tapped out. Most dog owners in my neighborhood are not insufferable pricks, but a lot of them are.

Did the person who report this also have trail cam pics of a mountain lion?

If this dog were a pit bull I would have shown no mercy whatsoever and it would already have been taken away from them the first time, or the second time, or even the third time it chased my daughter onto my property. To be honest I've been far too lax over it but only because I have a very high regard for golden labs and despite it being the most aggressive one I've ever seen I have a very hard time imagining it being anything more than surprised if it actually catches up to anybody. In any case, I am of the understanding these neighbors are about to get divorced and there has been talk of them selling the house, so literally every neighbor in the area has their fingers crossed.

It's absolutely true. I didn't say all; I said a lot. This thread is filled with evidence exactly supporting what I just said. Never said most, or all, or virtually all or anything else, merely "a lot". Just in my neighborhood in addition to my neighbor there is another neighbor that lets their four dogs run around in their backyard barking and hollering like it's a kennel (against town ordinance I'll add), another who until recently kept letting their dog out and it would walk all around the neighborhood (again against town ordinance). So that's just in several houses in my immediate area. I think three in my immediate area is "a lot".

Greg, good bloody job reporting it. That dog needs to get needled and a job well done it will be. I think a lot of dog owners are insufferable pricks who are utterly inconsiderate. My next door neighbor has had the town called multiple times and I got the town supervisor to actually write them a letter finally saying the next time I catch their dog on my property or out barking at all hours they will go to court. I have outdoor security cams and everything nicely documented. A couple of weeks ago I was minding my own business on my yard as their large dog (a retriever that they have somehow turned from being a beautiful breed into a nasty dog) unleashed yet again came onto my property. This dog looked damn near rabid. How they made it this way I haven no idea, but I was picking up a fist sized stone to weigh something down just before it came up to me. It got within several feet and I was about to brain it. But, it's a lab so I thought no way it will attack, so I turned to walk off and then it kept moving on me, so then I moved toward it to kick it in the head and then it finally ran off. I caught all this on camera. Instead of going to the town (my neighbor is in the depths of a life crisis so I didn't want to pile things on with a court trip for them) I sent them the video saying don't let this happen again. Do you know what they said? NOTHING. Not a thing. Not a single apology. My daughter is unable to leave the house when that thing is out (even though it's on a leash these days mostly).

Nice, total consensus it seems on the dogs are no issue!

I'm not even saying this to troll but I thought coyote season was from Jan 1 - Dec 31. I've never hunted them, though.