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But $500 now will get you a better bow than $500 would have a while ago. I have no idea why people spend so much on bows, particularly given as you pointed out how they lose value quickly. I bet a lot of people dropping tons of money on these bows should spend less on the bow and more time at the range!

I also got a coaster! Not a lawn tractor, though.

We are definitely going down another path this time, but there is enough sarcasm (I think?) from bizroworld that it's still interesting. I don't even know when people are being serious in this thread now

But why do people want a buck? Because there is some sense of pride to it, some club to join. If you're being led by hand to just the right spot to an area with an insane density of deer and shooting some buck with a rack so heavy it can hardly hold its head up, and it's in the middle of eating off a feeder, you didn't hunt jack squat. You merely shot it; you killed an animal that has been damn near domesticated. It's as impressive as a farmer who raises cows saying he's a cow hunter. I sense a little guilt in this thread over others hesitant to criticize because perhaps they know they are not sporting (not directing that at you). Truthfully there are not many guys here hardcore into hunting. If you sit the same stand a few times/year and you've culled 50 deer from the same spot over the same feed plot it's way less impressive than the few here who go out for very long stalks in big woods with a very low chance of success. And make no mistake: I'd love to be able to harvest deer off my back deck as well, but it can't be compared to still hunting from the ground in a low deer population area, for example. Nonetheless, both of the last two require some degree of skill, some chance, some perseverance. A guaranteed hunt is not a hunt: it's grocery shopping.

I do, too. I hunt for the meat and the best part of antlers to me currently is it just makes it easier to attach a rope to the deer. That may change at some point, but I was attracted to hunting in large part as a primal sort of thing; get closer to the food source.

Heck yes.

Earlier in the thread Four Season Whitetails said to me: For you to even take the time out of your life to worry about others and something that has nothing to do with your world shows your lacking. And now he has way more posts in it than I do and, by the look of it, anybody else, as he worries and rants against others that have nothing to do with him. Now that is something special you don't get to see every day.

Depending on the plot, it really isn't that much different. Here is how bad it can get: http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/big-buck-zone/2011/10/hunting-high-fences-unsportsmanlike-conduct-or-sign-times So really you might as well ask a local cattle farmer if you can hunt his cows next time he sends them to the butcher.

I am not passionate about this topic. I spent a few min reading sites and posted about it. I figured it would be an interesting topic for discussion and, clearly, it is.

I didn't watch the vid but I looked at the pic and absent scale or, well, a good picture it could be anything from a mountain lion to a house cat to a half mountain lion half chimp chimera; the front of its face looks a lot like an ape to me. I think given the scarcity of info here the safest bet is probably a half cat/ape hybrid. Because if we prepare for the worst, we'll probably make out okay. If the chimps have started mating with big cats, we'll end up facing beasts that combine the agility of a large cat with the brains of a chimp and we could be in for some real trouble.

Like you're doing right now?

I feel no qualms bitching about mediocrity and neither should any of us; too many people churn in it because those around them tell them it's okay. As for why I would bitch about hunting techniques on a hunting forum? Self-evident.

That is resplendent irony: you literally just did exactly what you condemned me for.

I really cannot understand who the heck would pay for something like this and then have the gall to call themselves a hunter afterward. Read this. http://www.widerackwhitetails.com/trophy_whitetail_hunting.htm R&P Whitetails is a whitetail trophy deer hunting ranch in Oklahoma. This is a high fenced deer hunt for a trophy whitetail buck and/or a doe if desired.. This is a fully guided trophy whitetail deer hunt for the buck of a life time. This is the trophy hunt of a life time for the elusive whitetail deer. The typical Oklahoma whitetail buck will score less than 125 Boone and Crocket points. At this Oklahoma deer hunting ranch, average doesn't apply. This trophy whitetail deer hunt is a little different from the rest. Here, the hunter can look on line at some trail cam photos and carefully select the trophy whitetail deer he wishes to hunt, if still available. If you aren't successful, you don't pay. This is very close to guaranteed trophy whitetail deer hunting. High fenced trophy whitetail hunting is in many ways like free range trophy whitetail hunts conducted from blinds. Most guaranteed deer hunts can't guarantee a specific buck. This is Oklahoma deer hunting at its best. On our deer hunting preserve or high fenced hunt area, we carefully manage our deer herd. Most Oklahoma deer hunts are on property where the chance of running into a true trophy is almost nil. Our deer hunting preserve offers quality high fence deer hunts and a truly excellent deer hunting experience. You may think because it's high fenced whitetail hunting, the deer will be push over's. Not these high fenced deer hunts. They offer the hunter an exciting high fenced deer hunting experience. https://gothunts.com/ohio-high-fence-deer-hunts-whitetails-160-300/ There is a 100% success rate, and many hunters take multiple deer. http://www.adventuresranch.com/ If you are looking to just shoot a deer, we are probably not the right place for you. What we offer is a deer hunt. Our deer are hunted in a natural environment on their terms. You should not expect to come hunting for a day, shoot a trophy, and go home. Okay, that sounds good, until I get to this: We put deer through handling facilities, etc. and score the deer prior to hunting season. When they are scored they are ear tagged with a colored button size tag that correlates to the size of the animal. Ex. Yellow button tag = 160 – 170 class buck. This also ensures that a hunter gets a deer as big as what they were looking for. HAHAHAHA When was the last time any of you saw a deer with a colored tag in the wild telling you, "on their terms" how big they were? This is typical of a lot of modern society and it happens in many areas, like climbing everest. People want the acclaim of some accomplishment but lack the commitment to do it legitimately so they pay others to do it for them.

That's why i said steakhouse; a restaurant Switzerland is not really applicable to us because the US is basically in a cold civil war now. Each year more polarized.

I don't mean to be insensitive, but the orlando shooter took out 49 people by going into a club and having no resistance. How would his odds have changed had he entered a steakhouse in Texas?

I'll settle this. When ripped doesn't do you justice, you become shredded:

First time I even knew free climbing was a thing (at real heights) was when I saw this video. Made my hands sweat at the time. BTW the guy died doing some silly stuff with ropes off a cliff in 1998.

So that's a netflix membership more out of my paycheck? I know it's not much but geeze with this, and then more money paid so other people's kids can get underwater basket weaving degrees on the cheap it's annoying.

It's amazing. I also fully expect we will read a story in coming years about him falling to his death. He's extremely skilled, but the odds are probably going to catch up to him on this activity.

Love it.

Turns out that indeed China and Russia don't like this. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/03/us-missile-defense-triggers-alarm-from-russia-china.html Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I know it would be sweet As long as they are 99% sure they can do it and use one of their lower-grade anti-missile attacks so as not to show the military's best hand.

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This begs the observation that it would be pretty humiliating if we tried to blast their rocket out and missed, and I do believe that's one of the key reasons the US doesn't try. Moreover, every time the US does something like this other nuclear powers are able to study what's going on. If the US is intercepting missiles from NK, China and Russia are able to monitor response times and impact points and trajectories of the kill vehicle, etc. It's lots of info the US surely doesn't want potential adversaries to have.