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Yeah I have to surface trim but I would be anyway to get rid of the sinew and fat. I leave all of the fat and everything on then throw the bag over top. I think it is actually a lot easier to trim off all the sinew and fat once it has dried a little. The sinew is not nearly as stringy and slippery. I usually yield about 50%-60% of the deer's live weight (depending on the shot placement), I don't leave much if anything.

Lots of processors won't take frozen deer. Give it a couple days with it being warm out. You'll likely need to use your vehicle to pull the hide from the deer. I would highly recommend one of those cheese cloths or game bags if you plan on aging your deer. If you age the deer do it with the hide off it's way easier to deal with it when the animal is warm and you don't run the risk of having all the ticks come off and go into your garage. I did that one year on a buck I shot the overnights were low in the teens and left the hide on. After 2 days I had probably 100 ticks all over my garage. I won't be doing that again.

Shot on Friday, action gross night was great. Granted I only needed 3 rounds but it didn't effect any deer sightings. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

I figured I was over thinking it. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

In the right hands both just as lethal. According you and others the argument (lack of a better term) is the compound and crossbow are equivalent. I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this. I tried to stay away.

You're still going to need to elaborate. We are talking compounds and crossbows so I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Which part? and please elaborate. Pretty sure I'm not.

Do we really need to get into the precision vs accuracy debate. How about this something that is more accurate and precise would be more lethal by definition. You're splitting hairs and most don't know the difference between precision and accuracy.

Depends on what you compare to the crossbow right? A compound with a 45lbs. draw has no where the potential to kill a deer than the average off the shelf crossbow.

If you saw him in the AM you will see him in the AM again, he was either heading back to his bedding area this morning or heading to feed. Either way I would piss in his scrape again it got him to change his pattern and that is how you kill a dominant buck.

No I just don't think it isn't right to use one for all of archery season just because someone wants an easier way to shoot deer. This is how I look at it. I know since PA had full inclusion their harvest rates have gone up meaning more deer harvested during archery and less opportunity for those hunting with a gun. I have talked to several that hunt PA and they say the deer numbers are down since the full inclusion. These are guys that only hunt with crossbow and never picked up a vertical bow. They also said since AR the population numbers have come up but nothing compared to what it used to be. Now Crossbows aren't the only thing to blame as the last couple winters were hard on the deer. But since 2009 many hunters have seen a decrease in deer numbers and the number of harvest don't lie. Crossbow harvests account for over 90% of PA archery harvests. At least up until they differentiated between crossbow harvests and bow. They maybe louder than a vertical bow but quieter than a firearm and just as effective. Point and Shoot.

You hunting 8W? I'm over in beaver dams not seeing crap during the day on cams or while in stand.

The state land around the hill from my house hasn't had a person on it all of bow season now that crossbow opened there has been a few vehicles parked there everyday when I leave and come home from work. Might be coincidence but I doubt it, full inclusion will bring more people to the woods adding pressure. I can't speak for those that currently hunt state land I haven't hunted it in 3 or 4 years now but there will be more pressure if full inclusion there is no doubt about that. It wouldn't bother me as much as others being I have my own land to hunt now. I think if there were full inclusion there should be some sort of AR for archery season. I would hate to see all the brown it's down hunters enter the woods and just decimate the deer populations. At least during gun season after a couple days of blasting at everything the deer get the idea and find hiding spots.

I'm heading out this afternoon hopefully I can see some deer this time. Doe have been all over the field across the street, I haven't had a picture of a doe since september on camera but only bucks? I want to fill my doe tag darn it! I thought it would have been an easy task but seems harder than shooting a buck lately.

Just because people are against them in archery season doesn't mean they haven't shot/used one. Come on, really need to stereotype people? That's no different than saying every black person supports BLM or voted for Obama.

Whoa wait you just said that if you practice consistently you can put all your arrows within a pie plate at 60 yards then say anyone can do it. No not anyone can do it. I watch guys practice everyday for the season and after 40 yards they are missing the target completely. Not anyone can do it. Now I have watched these same guys use a crossbow and have 2" or better groups at 60 yards. I'm sorry but what you stating is just not true. Most crossbow scopes give you 1.5x up to 6x normally out to 100 yards what would you need more than 6x? I know guys that use 4x fixed magnification on their deer rifles and shoot well past 100 yards. I have seen scopes for bows but guess what, normally fixed magnification andno adjustability for distances so you would be limited by the speed of your bow what will most likely never shoot IBO speeds stated in the other thread unless you decide to shoot 80lbs. draw or more and under spined arrows. Bipod really? how many guys do you know shoot with a bipod on their vertical bows? How many have you seen? I watched 1 person use a bipod on youtube. If shooting anything other than a drop away it throw your shot so far off it wouldn't be right you can't use a bipod on a vertical bow while hunting from a tree stand maybe one of those shooting shacks or in a blind but no way in a tree stand. Also there is no way you could rest your bow on a shooting rail and accurately shoot a deer. Even if you rest the stabilizer I wouldn't want to imagine the noise it would make or clanging it would have. Can I ask why if using a crossbow from a treestand would you hang it up? I mean when I shot one I laid it across my lap sitting in a chair no problem granted one side of the strings rested against my leg but it wasn't uncomfortable at least no more than laying my compound across my lap. All of the things you claim one can do with a vertical are far stretch from a practical hunting bow. Which is what the crossbow is geared towards being able to utilize all the fun features of a gun but to be used during archery. I have no problem with people physically disabled using a crossbow. My father has had 3 shoulder surgeries one on his left and 2 on his right. He has a very hard time pulling back a bow set at 45lbs. so he went to the crossbow this year. I don't think anything less of him or anyone else for using a crossbow because they physically can't use a vertical bow.

On my drive in I saw multiple does in a field without a buck in sight. There was one just down the hill from them running down a field road with something following behind. That was the same place I saw a nice wide 8. Just needs to wander a half mile east towards my place.

I can't think of a better place to have my hand, well maybe one. Good luck!

Most everyone targets in their guns on their hunting property, has anyone saw a negative effect on deer sightings when doing so? I need to shoot but haven't because I haven't seen much on my small parcel.

Looks like a nice 2.5 year old 6 point to me. It's really tough from that angle to see if there are other older buck characteristics. I have a 2.5 year old chocolate racked 5 point running around big body little rack. In the area I saw him has next to no graze and mostly woody and acorn feed.

Just get another like that and have them both mounted then you have like 140" deer on your wall. No one needs to know it's 2 deer at least until they see them. haha Having my son ask me everytime I walk in the door, "Deer?" and seeing him look at me funny when I say i couldn't shoot him. "Why no shoot?" I'm just saving them for him.

Hey if you're going to be illegal you might as well do it right.

The ones presented earlier in this thread or another by myself and others. One fact that they are closer to a gun than a vertical bow. you load it sit and wait shoulder click the safety and pull the trigger. Only argument people make is that it uses limbs and a string, everything else are parts found in a gun. Even terms associated with a crossbow are ones used when referencing firearms. It may not be a firearm but certainly isn't a bow. It is in fact its own entity and as fitting in its own season. To include it as a vertical or an even further stretch traditional bow is asinine.

The last week I have had them popping up everywhere. I had a 5 point come freshen one up 20 yards from me while in stand. First time I ever saw one rub a tree, I've seen a bunch makes scrapes.

Love my thermocell insoles, you get the xtreme or the reg red pair? They don't get hot but maintain your body temp. I think they get up to 100* is all. If your feet get too cold they won't warm them very quickly. I usually kick mine on when my feet start to feel a little cold then shut them off once I'm comfortable.