13BVET Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Yet another indication that the government is hell bent on taking guns. http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-raids-homeowner-confiscates-nearly-1500-guns-no-charges-filed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephmrtn Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 WTH the gov better look out people aint gonna take kindly to there guns being stolen!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I wonder if Holder is going to give the guns to the Mexican Drug Cartel ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 HSI,(Homeland Security Investigations), or ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), deal with what? Well, they are responsible for interior enforcement of Immigration and Customs laws. There are laws pertaining to what you can import into this country. From automobiles, toys, to firearms. "Federal investigators are saying that they are investigating him for gun smuggling, tax evasion, violating importation laws." Sounds like a great guy. But who knows, we will see when he is charged, and ultimately tried by a jury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 I suspect that this may only be a part of a story. I'm not saying that that site is not reputable, but I would like to see some confirmation from a few other sources before I get too excited. There may have been a few details left out or unavailable when this story was written. It sounds a bit hard to believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 HSI,(Homeland Security Investigations), or ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), deal with what? Well, they are responsible for interior enforcement of Immigration and Customs laws. There are laws pertaining to what you can import into this country. From automobiles, toys, to firearms. "Federal investigators are saying that they are investigating him for gun smuggling, tax evasion, violating importation laws." Sounds like a great guy. But who knows, we will see when he is charged, and ultimately tried by a jury. Doesn't that just kind of, sort of, violate "due process"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Doesn't that just kind of, sort of, violate "due process"? Like Doc said, this only sounds like part of the story, wait to draw conclusions until all of the facts come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13BVET Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share Posted February 4, 2013 Not drawing any conclusions yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmig2 Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 Wow I'm also curious how this transpires. That piece of sh** Holder should be fired and charged with 2 counts of accessory for murder on those two border patrol agents that got killed by the fast and furuous program he supervised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted February 4, 2013 Share Posted February 4, 2013 The article said the guy has been under investigation for a few years so they must have a pretty good reason ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious_Monk Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law..." What due process of law was afforded before the seizure of his property? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law..." What due process of law was afforded before the seizure of his property? we don't know, because we don't have the full story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious_Monk Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'd like to see the search warrants and affidavits associated with this investigation and seizure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 I'd like to see the search warrants and affidavits associated with this investigation and seizure. they're kept in the same vault as the Zambruder films. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 they're kept in the same vault as the Zambruder films. Oh my. To funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious_Monk Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 It's "Zapruder", Abraham Zapruder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted February 5, 2013 Share Posted February 5, 2013 same vault no matter how you spell it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious_Monk Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 First, the Zapruder film is viewable in it's entirety. Secondly, I've no idea what you mean by saying "They're kept in the same vault." Do you understand why I'd like to see the warrants and affidavits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Monk, don't bother wasting time with these buffoons. I don't think a normal conversation is possible without them getting personal and feeling attacked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erussell Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Im suprised they didnt send in a Predator drone. I guess its legal now to kill american citizens on suspicion of terrorism. Guys lucky all they did was take his guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 First, the Zapruder film is viewable in it's entirety. Secondly, I've no idea what you mean by saying "They're kept in the same vault." Do you understand why I'd like to see the warrants and affidavits? No, unless you are his lawyer. Do you check the warrants of everyone who is arrested under title 19? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Monk, don't bother wasting time with these buffoons. I don't think a normal conversation is possible without them getting personal and feeling attacked. Who are you calling a buffoon? Thats not nice. I just reread the thread. Where was there "not normal" conversation. I think you should take a chill pill. Edited February 6, 2013 by Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Who are you calling a buffoon? Thats not nice. I just reread the thread. Where was there "not normal" conversation. I think you should take a chill pill. Ford, I wrote something, but then I realized that you read the thread and found nothing wrong with the tone, so I deleted what I wrote. It'll just be a waste of my time. Thanks for your services to your community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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