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I remember this case.  People forget that "protect and serve" is their slogan but they never asked protect and serve who?  The answer to that question is society and community.  NOT the individual.  If a deranged gunman is wandering around like when the Boston bomber was on the loose, the cops duty is to try and apprehend the suspect.  NOT to post guard at each home and to make sure each family is safe.

 

This is where all those anti-gun idiots have no idea about the law.  All those who kept saying that we should just let the cops handle it.  If a Boston bomber was wandering around my neighborhood, sure, I'll let the cops chase after him but I'm going to rely on my guns to protect my family if that terrorist ever decides my home would be a nice place to hide.

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There was a similar decision handed down in Washington D.C. in the late 70's.  Women were being raped in a house, they secretly dialed 911, the cops knocked on the door, got no answer and left.

 

They were called again, and came back, but just drove by the house.  The women sued.  They lost.  Cops have no duty to protect any individual.

 

In NYC, or anywhere else, you are a victim by choice, if you expect the police protect you.  Trouble is, they won't allow you to protect yourself either.  Anti-gun idiots don't understand this.

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The ruling says that the cops didn't intervene until the attack was "underway".  Did they know that he was, in fact the suspect in the prior homicides and just ignore him? or did they not know who he was and jump in when they saw him attacking someone?

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Cops said they apprehended the perp and took away his knife and cuffed him within seconds of the attack. The description that the plaintiff gave was quite different and that of the witnesses.

I'm going to say that someone was legally advised to bend the truth to save their behinds.

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It was established in the courts some time ago that police have no obligation to protect individual citizens. This is precisely why we must fight hard to retain the right to protect ourselves...using firearms when the situation warrants such.

Interesting that police have no obligation to protect us....but they are obligated to enforce legislation such as the SAFE Act that detracts from individual rights and freedoms...and they do so willingly! In NY, cops work for Uncle Andy and his legislative henchmen!

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It was established in the courts some time ago that police have no obligation to protect individual citizens. This is precisely why we must fight hard to retain the right to protect ourselves...using firearms when the situation warrants such.

Interesting that police have no obligation to protect us....but they are obligated to enforce legislation such as the SAFE Act that detracts from individual rights and freedoms...and they do so willingly! In NY, cops work for Uncle Andy and his legislative henchmen!

 

 

I don't know about that...If there is no obligation to protect citizens, then why do cops even bother responding to dispatched calls??? "Unit 456 a woman at 123 Elm St says that a man is breaking down her back door and threatening to rape her"      "unit 456 no.....I don't feel like responding....I have no obligation ?"...  REALLY?  I think we're missing something here.

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The rapist is a threat to the community, and the response is to that, not the particular woman being raped or murdered. This basically alleviates any liability to the police that is sworn to protect and serve. It states so pretty clearly in the judge's decision. So unless you have some special relationship or some type of politician, you're better off protecting yourself. And even then, you could get arrested and later sued for injuring the criminal.

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This is just more of bloombergs BS His police force is prob about the worst in the country

that's quite the statement....I'm sure if you said that to the families of the officer's who gave their lives in the line of duty, they would disagree.

I don't know about "gave". I'm sure if you ask any of those that "gave" their lives in the line of duty, none of them would say they'd do it again. Firemen on the other hand....

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I don't know about "gave". I'm sure if you ask any of those that "gave" their lives in the line of duty, none of them would say they'd do it again. Firemen on the other hand....

I'm sorry, should I have said "lost' their lives. I don't see what makes a fireman losing their life any different than a policeman losing their life in the line of duty..........maybe you can enlighten us on that.

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I'm sorry, should I have said "lost' their lives. I don't see what makes a fireman losing their life any different than a policeman losing their life in the line of duty..........maybe you can enlighten us on that.

 

He doesn't like cops.

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I'm sorry, should I have said "lost' their lives. I don't see what makes a fireman losing their life any different than a policeman losing their life in the line of duty..........maybe you can enlighten us on that.

He doesn't like cops.

Don't forget the idiots that defend them either.

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that's quite the statement....I'm sure if you said that to the families of the officer's who gave their lives in the line of duty, they would disagree.

I didnt mean the cops were the bad guys i meant bloomberg is... and its his political BS that goes on in his city that makes his cops bad...

 

He doesn't like cops.

Actually I have a great respect for cops and would NOT want to have to deal with what they see...

 

or Bloomberg

You hit the nail on the head!!!

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Don't forget the idiots that defend them either.

 

And don't forget the whinny cocky little p-words who go out of their way to bash them when ever they can, more than likely because they have had unpleasant run ins with the police, all of which were or course ...not their fault.  Pussys 

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Like several other folks posting on this thread, I know several LEOs and respect these fine folks who have a real tough job to do.  But it is precisely because LEOs are not everywhere necessary to prevent, much less "required" intervene and stop a crime, that I always carry concealed.  I know what it feels like to be held up at gun point, and not being able to respond in kind.  Cops took over 15 minutes to get on the scene, took minimal information (LAPD, SoCal), and nothing ever came of the incident.  Never, ever again.

 

Sorry, I am getting a bit political, and irritated...  Ok, not so much sorry in an apologetic way.  Sorry things like this happen, yet our right to defend ourselves is under constant pressure.

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