Is it just NY schools

[Borngeechee]

Are you guys noticing this or is it just NY (Long Island to be exact) ... One of my girls is in 3rd grade and she is learning world history but none of it includes US history. Hell they've learned about China, India and they haven't anything about here. I asked her if they ever spoke about George Washington and they haven't.

[wildcat junkie]

Are you guys noticing this or is it just NY (Long Island to be exact) ... One of my girls is in 3rd grade and she is learning world history but none of it includes US history. Hell they've learned about China, India and they haven't anything about here. I asked her if they ever spoke about George Washington and they haven't.

When I was in school, "world history" & "U S history were taught in 2 different classes. " World history" encompasses thousands of years while "U S history" is barely 400 years.

I went to school in PA as well as IL.

Edited April 12, 2015 by wildcat junkie

[Borngeechee]

When I was in school, "world history" & "U S history were taught in 2 different classes. " World history" encompasses thousands of years while "U S history" is barely 400 years.

I went to school in PA as well as IL.

It was the same for me but at least by the 3rd grade we knew who the first president was.

[wildcat junkie]

It was the same for me but at least by the 3rd grade we knew who the first president was.

You're right, but the logic may be to start at the beginning. That would be thousands of years prior.

[Five Seasons]

When I was in school, "world history" & "U S history were taught in 2 different classes. " World history" encompasses thousands of years while "U S history" is barely 400 years.

I went to school in PA as well as IL.

What this guy said. U.S. Had its own class.

[Mr VJP]

Does it have it's own US History class now?  That is the question.

 

And if it does, is it aimed at convincing students the US is not a good country?

 

Edited April 12, 2015 by Mr VJP

[Five Seasons]

Good lord give it a rest

[Mr VJP]

Read any good US history books lately?

 

[wildcat junkie]

Here we go. Get out your tinfoil hats.

[Mr VJP]

Get out a new edition of a public school US History text and read it.

 

It's attitudes like that that encourage the indoctrination and dumbing down of American public school children.

 

Edited April 12, 2015 by Mr VJP

[wildcat junkie]

Get out a new edition of a public school US History text and read it.

Like the ones that Red state conservatives are trying to foist off as fact?

[Mr VJP]

No, like the ones NY state makes kids read.

 

[wildcat junkie]

No, like the ones NY state makes kids read.

Care to cite a few chapters or are you just ranting about your usual delusions?

[Mr VJP]

You can find all the information you want in this one book.

 

48 Liberal Lies About American History: (That You Probably Learned in School)   by Prof. Larry Schweikart

 

Over the last forty years, history textbooks have become more and more politically correct and distorted about our country’s past, argues professor Larry Schweikart. The result, he says, is that students graduate from high school and even college with twisted beliefs about economics, foreign policy, war, religion, race relations, and many other subjects.

As he did in his popular A Patriot’s History of the United States, Professor Schweikart corrects liberal bias by rediscovering facts that were once widely known. 

[Mr VJP]

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/education-2/the-left-is-secretly-trying-to-change-how-american-history-is-taught-to-high-school-students

 

http://loonybird.com/schools_leftist.htm

 

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-thornton/is-leftist-school-indoctrination-unstoppable/

 

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2014/09/15/proposed-texas-textbooks-are-full-of-progressive-bias-says-curriculum-accuracy-expert/

 

Take your pick from any of the above.

 

[Borngeechee]

All I know is that i don't get how she isn't being taught US History. I understand it's a seperate class, but it's still a class that she doesn't have. Hell when I was a kid we had the president posted all around the class.

Edited April 12, 2015 by Borngeechee

[Five Seasons]

Get out a new edition of a public school US History text and read it.

It's attitudes like that that encourage the indoctrination and dumbing down of American public school children.

Don't change the subject. We weren't discussing the state of our education system. We were discussing your comment that teachers are now teaching anti-American history in schools.

The weather is nice out. Get outside and just stop with the nonsense already.

[Mr VJP]

Like I said, attitudes like that.  You haven't a clue, yet you think you do.  That's the scary thing.

 

I repeat, get a US History text from your local school system and read it.  It's subtle, but the message is no longer America is an exceptional land and the greatest country on earth.  It's more judgmental about US history with a tendency to imply guilt.  Read some of the links I posted.

[ATbuckhunter]

Most of them don't read the text books anyway

[wildcat junkie]

It's subtle, but the message is no longer America is an exceptional land and the greatest country on earth. It's more judgmental about US history with a tendency to imply guilt. Read some of the links I posted.

If you take the standard of living for the general populous, we aren't the "greatest country on earth" any more. Edited April 13, 2015 by wildcat junkie

[First-light]

In third grade the curriculum looks at the cultures around the world. Have you gone to a parent teacher meeting lately?

[Elmo]

If I can recall correctly, the first world history they are taught is what First-Light described which is to just teach the kids there are different cultures.  When US history is introduced, it is a lot more detailed (have to remember dates, declarations, wars, key individuals, etc) so it's usually when the kids are a little older.

[Borngeechee]

In third grade the curriculum looks at the cultures around the world. Have you gone to a parent teacher meeting lately?

I go to all of them and the ones I don't I'm there via speakers phone. I'm going to ask at the next one since this didn't come up until today.

[Five Seasons]

In third grade the curriculum looks at the cultures around the world. Have you gone to a parent teacher meeting lately?

 

If I recall the guy is a grandpa. And while he claims we're all out of touch with reality, he constantly posts links to nut-job fueled websites so I'm not sure he's any more qualified then anyone else to address the education system problems. I think our schools need a lot of help, but I certainly do not believe our schools are teaching our kids to be anti-American. That's just nuts.

 

Now it's also common knowledge that history books are written by the victors. Taking a deeper look into some our cultural struggles with slavery, discrimination, the slaughtering of native Americans is the appropriate way to teach history. Rome was great, but a lot of people died along the way. How would we expect our kids to learn from our mistakes if we don't tell them about it?

[phade]

Social Studies also generally ranks as the most boring subject if you poll students, with U.S. history leading the way.

 

If only I had focused on math, science, and common sense in high school and early college rather than Chesterton, the Romans, our independence, and UN and Caribbean politics...little of that stuff paid any value to me from a career perspective. 

 

I do not discredit the value of learning our history, but at the same point and time, I would be fine if we cut the amount of history exposure in the curriculum in half and moved toward experiential learning (ie practicing things you learn) that might pay dividend career-wise. We have a ton of local colleges in my area, and pretty much all undergrads coming through my doors are equal regardless of degree, with the exception of one/two schools. They can talk about what they learned. A college like RIT, which is very experiential (required co-ops and internships), produces much better people/employees/long term careers. I find that they can do, and not simply talk about doing. Again, I do not discredit the value of learning our history, but at the same token, I feel like our school system should better prepare students for college or trades. Spending a week on the Mayan civilization or our western expansion seems like it isn't the best bang for the buck.

Edited April 14, 2015 by phade