WNYBuckHunter Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm sorry but it's the truth. I love to hunt and have much respect for the game. I'm not thinking about myself or anyone else here, only the deer. They don't deserve to die at 1 1/2, let the damn thing grow and mature a bit. I don't stand for sloppy hunters either. Went pushing late MZ season a long time back with a group of guys. Dude ends up shooting a young buck and wounding. Doesn't go down right away, so the guy says well I must not of got him and goes back in for lunch and heads out for more deer drives. Me and a couple of my buddies went out looking for the deer, didn't participate in any more deer drives, and finally finished it off before last shooting light. I told the guy your a disgrace to hunting and never hunted with them guys again. Last year, 3 of our 1 year Olds were wounded by the end of season. 3. Sorry but I don't like what kind of hunters this brings to the table with this season. Nothing will ever change my opinion on it without different regulations First, they arent your deer. Second, deserve to die? Sounds like something PETA would say, and makes no sense. Third, what does any of that have to do with ARs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That's the laugh of the week for sure!! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Agreed. But I'm sure the enforcer of the AR will agree with me if I shoot a 3 year old 4 point. The AR is designed to let deer mature, so that would be a loophole So ARs are fine to force down everyones throat up until the point where you think the deer is 3 and shoot it regardless of the rules. Gotcha. I think I know all that I need to now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just saying an example. But let's not do anything NY. Either way rifle season opens up tomorrow and it's still gunna be just the same **** differt year. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yes when you manage property you do make the mistake of saying "your deer" big whoop. They don't deserve to be harvested at that young of an age. Let em mature. It's way more fun. Third, letting the young ones walk has everything to do with AR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just saying an example. But let's not do anything NY. Either way rifle season opens up tomorrow and it's still gunna be just the same **** differt year. Cheers Same *stuff* different year? Do you mean thousands of hunters will take to the woods and enjoy time with their families and friends making memories that they will have for the rest of their lives and yes, shooting deer that they are happy with? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 No? That's not what we were talking about dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I was being sarcastic, Pickle. Thanks for recognizing it. The point being that growing big, mature deer may be "more fun" in your eyes, but not everyone's goals are the same. Why should we tell someone else that they have to change their hunting experience in an effort to accommodate your goals? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Well someone has to be on the other side of the fence. I think it's a great thing to push for. Wouldn't it be nice to know that there is mature deer lurking in every wooded lot. I hope it happens but I don't write the laws so I can only sit back and keep my fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Mature deer in every woodlot? Even I would get sick of that. Some of the crap that is posted on this site amazes me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Mature deer in every woodlot? Even I would get sick of that. Some of the crap that is posted on this site amazes me. There he is... what took you so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yes when you manage property you do make the mistake of saying "your deer" big whoop. They don't deserve to be harvested at that young of an age. Let em mature. It's way more fun. Third, letting the young ones walk has everything to do with AR We manage our property, they arent our deer. Saying a deer doesnt deserve to die is ridiculous, doesnt matter what age range you are talking about. ARs have to do with number of points, which doesnt have much to do with age. Wanna see lots of pics of 1 1/2 year old 6 and 8 point bucks from my trail cams? Id be glad to share. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 There he is... what took you so long Booners for everyone! For you! For me! For all! Sounds like a democratic liberal to me... I think your pickle has been soaking in the wrong kind of brine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That'd why it would be better to go by age. ARs are designed to allow deer to mature. Again, "most" hunters should know what "most" 1 year old looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Booners for everyone! For you! For me! For all! Sounds like a democratic liberal to me... I think your pickle has been soaking in the wrong kind of brine. Giggity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just to be clear, Pickle, are you saying 1.5 and up would be shooters? Or would 1.5 be protected under your system? The reason I ask is because most 1.5 year olds I see are spikes and forks. If you mean the former, the button bucks--the only class of bucks protected under your plan as I understand it--would still be taken on DMPs. I don't see the point of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 That'd why it would be better to go by age. ARs are designed to allow deer to mature. Again, "most" hunters should know what "most" 1 year old looks like When do we get to kill them, at what age? 2.5 and up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 1.5 and up. Just protects the 1.5s allowing them to become a little more smarter. They stand a better chance at making it to maturity because trying to harvest a 2.5 is no easy task as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 You're contradicting yourself. 1.5 and up are shooters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Cannot shoot 1.5s. I thought that was clear. I know what I said, so you don't need to quote it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm not picking on you. I'm just trying to understand your position. I don't support ARs. I understand people who do. They're just trying to do what they think is necessary to take the sport in the direction they'd like to see it go. But for me personally, my wife's grandfather is 85 and this is most likely his last season. I couldn't imagine denying him the ability to shoot a 4 point deer and smile from ear to ear one last time just because I want to shoot bigger bucks. That's how I see it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 We have an older gentleman in camp too, 84 years old. He will be corking the first buck he sees......good for him!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawdwaz Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Remember......VAR. Voluntary Antler Restrictions 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 If limitations were in effect. He may have a legitimate chance at harvesting a big 8 point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyPickle123 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 VAR only goes so FAR with this season I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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