Culvercreek hunt club Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 15 minutes ago, Uptown Redneck said: If the report about the gun firing while being slung over the accused shoulder is true I cannot see how the act of slinging a rifle be considered a "substantial and unjustifiable risk" nor it being "a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation." I can see how having the muzzle of a loaded shotgun in very close proximity pointed at a person, with the safety off , resulting in a fatal discharge could meet that. It is also a deviation from ANY standard a reasonable hunter, firearms owner or the majority of average people would know is an unjustifiable risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmon_Run Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: I can see how having the muzzle of a loaded shotgun in very close proximity pointed at a person, with the safety off , resulting in a fatal discharge could meet that. It is also a deviation from ANY standard a reasonable hunter, firearms owner or the majority of average people would know is an unjustifiable risk. Unless, of course one doesn't mind occasionally looking down the barrel of a weapon, even if one is sure it's unloaded and definitely when a trigger lock is in place even while being held by a complete stranger. I guess then it's not all the reckless in your own world.....I am afraid the standard you speak of Culver isn't always the "average people" we want handling weapons. Follow the BASIC safety rules and "accidents" are avoided......there is NEVER an excuse for an accidental discharge happening and harming someone when the barrel is ALWAYS pointed in a safe direction.....so simple a rule my children all can follow it... Edited December 16, 2016 by Salmon_Run added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uptown Redneck said: If the report about the gun firing while being slung over the accused shoulder is true I cannot see how the act of slinging a rifle be considered a "substantial and unjustifiable risk" nor it being "a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation." I'm expressing no opinion, Uptown. That is for a jury to determine once they've heard the actual evidence presented. I'm just providing you with the text of the statute. Edited December 16, 2016 by Caveman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 58 minutes ago, Salmon_Run said: the standard you speak of Thats the thing about standards, everyone is entitled to their own interpretation of what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptown Redneck Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Salmon_Run said: Unless, of course one doesn't mind occasionally looking down the barrel of a weapon, even if one is sure it's unloaded and definitely when a trigger lock is in place even while being held by a complete stranger. Thats because I do not live in a state of paranoid fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 On 12/15/2016 at 5:33 PM, Jared A said: A guy called into a local radio station here, said he was hunting the adjacent property... Apparently the gun discharged while being slung back over the hunter's shoulder and the safety was off??? Again, this is from the radio interview. Please be careful everyone... Very sad for everyone involved. I heard the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmon_Run Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Uptown Redneck said: Thats because I do not live in a state of paranoid fear Paranoia is described as the following: a mental condition characterized by delusions of persecution, unwarranted jealousy, or exaggerated self-importance, typically elaborated into an organized system. It may be an aspect of chronic personality disorder, or drug abuse, or of a serious condition such as schizophrenia in which the person loses touch with reality. Often manifested in believing statements are referring directly to him/her, even when one's name isn't mentioned or an unrealistic and over dramatized fear of the impending Trump administration ,failure to accept that Clinton LOST, narrow view of the world only viewed through the editors of the NYT, and a belief it is in any way ever ACCEPTABLE to have a weapon pointed at you under ANY circumstance.......... I feel for the families left in the wake of this terrible event, this only serves to remind one that GUN SAFETY is paramount and when ALL gun safety rules are adhered to then this incidents will not happen.... Edited December 17, 2016 by Salmon_Run spelling error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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