More lunacy - APRIL 20: A National Day of Action to Prevent Gun Violence in Schools

[ADK Native]

13 hours ago, Belo said:

even as a very pro gun guy, I sort of like the idea of teaching peaceful protest.

I agree. IF it remains peaceful and honest.  The only problem is teaching youth that GUN CONTROL eradicates GUN VIOLENCE  is a lie.  It further feeds the ignorance while more will die from gun violence.  Yes, gun violence is a problem, but teach youth real solutions, not useless gun control.

i was at the SAFE Act rally.  police kept telling us to keep off the side walk.  Strange because across the street standing on the side walk were gun control supporters with their signs.  AND the police let them stand on the side walk.  Did Cuomo order the police to have different rules for us?

[Steve D]

11 hours ago, Wilderness said:

 Yes, gun violence is a problem,

Violence in general is a problem whether it includes a gun or not.

[chas0218]

So I heard on the radio FL. is trying to pass the laws that raised the age to 21 to purchase a firearm, the "Violent threat restraining order" law and banning bump stocks. The VTRO law is the one that allows a family member, LEO or Community Welfare expert  to file a sworn request. to have all firearms removed from a residence. Meaning even if the owner is not the mentally ill one. I'm sorry but I see a lot of pissed off ex girlfriends or wives filing a request. This just opens a whole new can of worms. Not sure any of this other than raising the age would have prevented the Florida shooting. 

[The_Field_Ager]

The 1st amendment is now compulsory?

I seem to remember something in the history books about other places in the past were behavior, thought and speech were compelled by the state

Ohio student suspended for staying in classroom during gun control walkout

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-classroom-during-gun-control-walkout

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Chicago students allegedly trash Walmart during National School Walkout protesthttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/16/chicago-students-allegedly-trash-walmart-during-national-school-walkout-protest.html

And they wonder why people think these walk outs are BS. Nothing but a bunch of no good punks. All these kids deserve to be expelled. Not that it would matter as I’m sure most of them won’t graduate their dump of a inner city school to begin with.

[DirtTime]

23 hours ago, Wilderness said:

Excellent question Rob.

I want people that want to keep their firearms and be able to carry them for self defense to speak, write to the newspapers and their politicians gun control is not the answer.  Tell them that gun control does not work because it does not attack the root causes of gun violence.  I want to be clear as all of us should understand that GUN CONTROL is not GUN VIOLENCE CONTROL.  Gun control addicts are sick people.  Once I wrote Schumer with some real solutions to gun violence and six months later he sends me a letter thanking me for supporting animal rights!  Very sad a politicians acts like an idiot.  Another time some gun control professor was on the radio. i listened and took notes of his BRAVO SIERRA facts.  I called in and was given the opportunity to rip his lies apart.  He was livid and started loosing control.  He lost it because the truth unveiled his lies.  He became sarcastic, but I did not play into this liars hands.  I just "oh yeah ed" him which further set him off.

Everyone wants safer schools.  Given the choice what would work best, A or B?

A. - Raise the age to buy long guns to 21 and ban "military looking rifles' (sorry, i lived with an M16A1 and I would not insult my fully auto commie killer).

B. - Trained armed guards  (we have them for banks, military base entries, for Gov Cuomo and lots of other places so why not for school children?) at schools, better trained response from law enforcement if a shooter enters onto or into school property and harden access points into school to prevent an unauthorized breech.

I listed above in my opening comment many real solutions to fighting gun violence.  My buddy was a street cop with NYPD.  He told me that 2 out of 3 murders were linked to illegal drugs.  I believe him, NOT liars like Cuomo, Schumer and all the other gun control addicts..

The NRA is an organization that has been lied about and distorted by the media and gun control addicts.  The NRA was founded in 1871 to help the US government by training men in marksmanship training to be ready to defend the USA.  The NRA went more gun lobby back in the 1960's because of the rise in stupid gun control.  Look at old Mechanic Illustrated magazine in the 1950's.  You could buy old military surplus rifles through the mail!  But gun control took life due to the rise in civil disobedience and increased illegal drug use.  The sad thing about the NRA is so many gun owners refuse and even disagree with NRA, but cannot name who supports their Second Amendment rights.  Imagine if the estimated 80 million gun owners and the millions of more of their family and friends spoke with one voice, WE WANT A REAL WAR ON GUN VIOLENCE. 

 

I send emails, I have made phone calls, and rarely got a reply from anyone in a political office. I'll keep writing, to as least make sure they know my POV on gun rights and 2A. If more people did it maybe our voice would ring a little louder. But, as you said, some do nothing.

I also try to educate as many people that I meet about hunting and guns as I can. But, I will admit, I usually do not bring up the topic, they do. Arguing with an anti-gun or an anti-hunter is like scraping sandpaper on your brain. Took me over 6 years to convince my fiancée the M&P ( one of them ) I wanted wasn't an "assault rifle", now she loves shooting it. Also spent two hours explaining to one of her friends the difference between an AR and a sporting rifle. Two hours and I had a headache and needed a beer.

As for your A or B question? I say B. Because A will not do anything, if someone really wants to get a firearm, they will, no matter of age restrictions or not. Most of the drug related shootings aren't committed with a gun they got at Bass Pro Shops. They will never get illegal guns off the streets, that's a fact!

 

 

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Deputy and counselors recommended institutionalizing Nikolas Cruz long before deadly massacre at Florida school

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/deputy-and-counselors-recommended-institutionalizing-nikolas-cruz-long-before-deadly-massacre-at-florida-school/2018/03/18/8de81ece-2ad3-11e8-8dc9-3b51e028b845_story.html?utm_term=.d5dd048b5289

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[Five Seasons]

On 3/15/2018 at 10:06 PM, Wilderness said:

I agree. IF it remains peaceful and honest.  The only problem is teaching youth that GUN CONTROL eradicates GUN VIOLENCE  is a lie.  It further feeds the ignorance while more will die from gun violence.  Yes, gun violence is a problem, but teach youth real solutions, not useless gun control.

i was at the SAFE Act rally.  police kept telling us to keep off the side walk.  Strange because across the street standing on the side walk were gun control supporters with their signs.  AND the police let them stand on the side walk.  Did Cuomo order the police to have different rules for us?

yeah, my point is that teaching to protest is good and very American. Guiding the beliefs of youth is something teachers sort of have ingrained in their DNA. It's really not their fault, but we do need to do a better job ensuring our teachers understand that their job is to educate and grow our children, but not to instill values. On the flip side, not enough parents are instilling values and that is not helping our country either. 

[Five Seasons]

On 3/16/2018 at 6:35 PM, Papist said:

The 1st amendment is now compulsory?

I seem to remember something in the history books about other places in the past were behavior, thought and speech were compelled by the state

Ohio student suspended for staying in classroom during gun control walkout

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ohio-student-suspended-for-staying-in-classroom-during-gun-control-walkout

i read this story. There's a little more to it. They provided a place for those to go who didn't want to walk out (gym). This kids issue was that he didn't want to pick a side, which is noble. The school states that their issue was him refusing to go "somewhere" and then being left unsupervised. I can see both sides.

The irony is that the kid wanted to stay in school to do classwork and now has one day out of school suspension. way to go education! lol.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Belo

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