FULLDRAWXX75

wow really! I will have to look into it for the wife and her Suburban. Does it worsen the milage by alot? I worked it out. If the flex fuel is .25 cents cheaper it's a wash between less milage and price. Anything over .25 cents it's worth it. I do see less miles per gallon in the Tahoe. At .80 cents cheaper it's a no-brainer. I am gonna have to disagree with the math here..............................It is a known fact that it takes @ 40% more flex fuel to generate the same results as regular fuel. So let say a gal. of reg. fuel is $3.80 per gal, Flex fuel is $3.00 per gal...........................flex fuel 1.4 gals = 1 gal. reg fuel......................1.4 x $3.00 = $4.20 to accomplish the same result. You would need to be able to buy flex fuel for $2.28 per gal. just to break even with reg. fuel prices. I have yet to find a single car, truck, or any vehicle for that matter that has shown a positive gain by running flex fuel. It just isn't in the cards.................... FDXX75

WNYBH, Check out this link, I came across the article and read some reviews on these. A lot of guys that were using the SST's tried these and switched rather quickly. I did not read one single non -5 star review on them. I think I am going to pick up a box to see how they perform. I will be needing a replacement for the solid coppers. http://www.americanhunter.org/ArticlePage.aspx?id=1428&cid=59 FDXX75

You see a lot of different names/titles on forums, some are pretty easy to figure out or understand, some not. So how did you pick your user name................. Mine is FULLDRAWXX75 The FULLDRAW part was a nickname and ole timer at the range labeled my with back in the day. I used to stop ever day on my way home from work and run @ 200 arrows down range. He was retired and hung out at the club house everyday puttsin' around. He made a comment about me being at the range to another member and started referring to me as Fulldraw, I added the xx75 because it was the arrows I used back when I started using the user name on forums. That's my story.........................lets hear some more. FDXX75

I had to turn down a job this week because of the jump in the fuel prices.........................It is 3.80 p/g, if I took the job (60 miles from home, 1 way) after my taxes and fuel costs I would make @ $45 a day for an 8 hr days work. ($35 + a day in fuel alone) Not to mention 3 hrs of my time to get there and back. It is insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FDXX75

yep, and buying more fuel to get the same mileage. The flex fuel hype is right up there with Obama Care thinking.................................. FDXX75

I have always said it was the Remington CoreLoc Bullet....................... With all the chatting going on about slug/bullet performance or lack of, damage, etc. Over the years I have found/retrieved several bullets and will post pics and a short story with each: First one is a 12 ga. Remington Slugger, deer hit left side of neck (facing me), slug recovered back side or rt. rear rump(just under the hide) It took out the heart, lungs and traveled the entire length of the deer with a 40yd shot. (It maintained 99.9% retention) This one is a 240 gr .444 Marlin, Remmy Corelok..................the perfect mushroom(nearly 94% retention) This bullet traveled the entire internal length of 6pt. buck (the deer had been hit and was running directly away from us, I pulled up, aimed for the base of his tail and fired at 50 yds, he dropped in mid stride)the bullet hit between the hind legs and was recovered in the base of the neck. The next two are 7mm Rem Mag, 175 gr. Remmy Corelok..................the mushroomed bullet was a 90 yd shot broadside shot slightly qrt. away, bullet hit a rib behind rt. frt. shoulder and was recovered on the backside of the scapula bone of the left shoulder, it had also seperated (lead core from the copper jacket) and only retained 67% bullet weight The odd flat looking bullet is exactly that..................missing the entire nose section and completely flat on one entire side. The bullet hit a 1" dia. dead branch @ 10yds in frt of the deer (I didn't see it through the scope) the bullet hit, tumbled and made a rib cage entry with the bullet laying sideways. It tore a huge 2" entry hole in the rib cage and was recovered on the opposite rib cage under the hide. (Only 57% retention) I still think the Corelok's are a great factory ammo, I just am not impressed with the performance of the 175 gr out of my 7mm mag. I strictly handload now. Lastly, a .54 cal; 225 gr. Remington Gold Plate round ball. 75 yd slight qtr. away shot, rib cage entry/opposite shoulder recovery..............retained 98.5% and doubled its diameter and flattened to half its origin diameter. I have seen some really crazy stuff over the yrs. from different caliber/bullet combo's, that is why I now handload and put in a ton of range time testing and working for the best combo I can get for my guns. FDXX75

Back in '96 I was building my new house, one afternoon I was laying shingles on the garage roof when I heard scretching tires and a horrible crash sound........................I hurried off the roof and ran over to look and I see a car flipped upside down in the ditch, so I ran over to see if I could help and assess the damages. The driver was climbing out one of the windows by time I go there, he appeared to be ok, but very shaken and angry. He was swearing up a storm about something. I had to really keep myself from laughing as he had a bent/half broken cigarette hanging out of his mouth and he was dripping wet with coffee all over his head. Well, anyway..................he was ok. The story was a deer ran out in front of him and he swirved to miss it and got down in the ditch and hit a large rock wall and it flipped the car over. When the County Sheriff showed up, he was getting the details when the guy stated the deer jumped on the hood of the car and hit the windshield(the second deer) ?????????? second deer. Yep, there was a doe and a fawn. The guy swirved to miss the doe and the fawn was not far behind. Well, I did a little looking around the scene and low and behold, I found the fawn (dead) about 20 ft. from the crash sight. The Deputy issued me a special tag and I high tailed it directly to my local taxitermist. Here is the final outcome: It was a little 2-3 week old button buck, my guy did a great job on it. I built the oak plank display stand, covered the bottom with fake moss hair and then went out in the woods and gathered natural forest floor items and layed it out. I did use fake ferns though. He has taken it to several taxidermist shows and it has won a couple of awards. I have only seen one other mount in a private home setting in my life. I get more interest and comments about this mount than I do my big rack bucks. FDXX75

A woman was having a daytime affair while her husband was at work. One rainy day she was in bed with her boyfriend when, to her horror, she heard her husband's car pull into the driveway. 'Oh my God - Hurry! Grab your clothes and jump out the window. My husband's home early!' 'I can't jump out the window. It's raining out there!' 'If my husband catches us in here, he'll kill us both!' she replied. 'He's got a hot temper and a gun, so the rain is the least of your problems!' So the boyfriend scoots out of bed, grabs his clothes and jumps out the window! As he ran down the street in the pouring rain, he quickly discovered he had run right into the middle of the town's annual marathon, so he started running along beside the others, about 300 of them. Being naked, with his clothes tucked under his arm, he tried to blend in as best he could. After a little while a small group of runners who had been watching him with some curiosity, jogged closer. Do you always run in the nude?' one asked. 'Oh yes!' he replied, gasping in air. 'It feels so wonderfully free!' Another runner moved a long side. 'Do you always run carrying your clothes with you under your arm?' 'Oh, yes' our friend answered breathlessly. 'That way I can get dressed right at the end of the run and get in my car to go home!' Then a third runner cast his eyes a little lower and asked, 'Do you always wear a condom when you run?' 'Nope...just when it's raining.' FDXX75

Has anyone actually heard (fact) or seen the proposed guidelines for the addition of Crossbow? I have on read it will be for "specific animal harvest in restricted areas" anyone else see or know more??? FDXX75

I would say that is the deer herds tradition, they all gather @ 8:30 to draw straws to see which one has to walk through the property first..............LMAO. The is just simple deer movement patterns in your area, A good majority of the deer I shot on our property in the southern tier was between 8:15 & 10:00am or 2:45 & Dark. But, don't rule out mid day movement, I have taken several large bucks sneaking through an area between 12-1pm while sitting on watch eating my lunch. FDXX75

They would be good for your kid. What's your draw length? They are good up to 60lbs with a 29 in draw. I am shooting 65# with a 28.5" DL. He is much lighter and shorter than myself.

From what I can figure they are rated for bows shooting under 60# DW. No good for me, but I was looking at them for my son to practice with.................He shots 42-45# DW, I would have to cut them down some though. FDXX75

I saw a pic of an entry & exit wound on a 80lb doe in Tenn. that was hit by a Barnes from a 12 ga. I have never seen such a sight. Entry hole was straight through the front shoulders and 2" in diameter going in........................................6-7" hole in the opposite shoulder. Looked like a grenade went off inside that animal. The guy lost both shoulders, most of the neck & part of the chops to damage..............................Yeah, there is such a thing and "too much damage". Why both if all you are going to do is distroy half the meat..................... FDXX75

I tried one box of Barnes slugs, they did not group worth a crap out of my gun. (a huge waste of $15.00) I have heard the pro's/con's of their performance as well. Either the open up and create major hacic or the fold up and the shooter sees minimal results............................yet another small caliber bullet saboted for shotgun use. FDXX75

The feedback from the masses is mixed ............................................. FDXX75

From what I can find in print so far, it has been propsed but nothing has come of it. Here is a page from another site outlining a meeting about it................ IMMEDIATE RELEASE State Bowhunter and Muzzleloader Associations Compile Joint Southern Zone Deer Season Proposal Canandaigua, NY - 9/18/09 - New York Bowhunters, Inc. (NYB) and the New York State Muzzleloader Association (NYSMLA) have been working jointly for several months on a southern zone deer season proposal that allows both parties to meet their objectives. Copies of the proposal have been sent to the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, Bureau of Wildlife (DEC) and other Sportsmen’s organization throughout New York State. The DEC desires to increase the harvest of antlerless deer in their effort to effectively manage the whitetail deer herd as well as allow for a weekend of early hunting opportunity for junior big game firearms hunters. The NYSMLA wishes to have an early “primitive” muzzleloading season and NYB seeks to restore lost hunting opportunity that occurred with the implementation of the 2005 big game restructuring regulations. Therefore, both organizations reached out to one another to work on a sensible proposal that would be acceptable to firearms hunters, muzzleloader hunters, bowhunters, the DEC and to the general public. The timing of the proposal coincides with the DEC’s scheduling of public meetings this September and October regarding the state of the deer herds in New York. The DEC recently scheduled public meetings in an effort to “capture the issues that are important to sportsmen, particularly as they relate to bag limits, season structure and tag options. We (DEC) hope to receive feedback from meeting participants that helps us (DEC) prioritize the issues that are important for NYS deer hunters and the public” stated DEC Wildlife Biologist Jeremy Hurst. Information on these meetings can be found by going to the DEC website at http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/57795.html. The NYB/NYSMLA joint proposal would restructure the southern zone hunting seasons as follows; · open the 23-day regular firearms season on the Saturday before Thanksgiving. · open the early archery season on October 1st, ending on the Friday prior to the beginning of the regular firearms season. · Allow for a weekend of junior (ages 14 & 15) big game hunting opportunity on the weekend prior to the opening of the regular firearms season. · open a 5-day antlerless-only “primitive” muzzleloading season on the Monday prior to the beginning of the regular firearms season, ending on the Friday prior to the beginning of the regular firearms season. NYB President, Gary Socola stated, “The DEC follows a progression of weaponry in the northern zone, starting with archery season, muzzleloader season and then progressing into the regular firearms season. The NYB/MYSMLA proposal follows the precedence already set by the DEC.” Socola indicated that he has records over the past two years showing that bowhunters have sent over 8,000 letters and signatures on petitions to DEC Commissioner Pete Grannis asking that the DEC open the early southern zone archery season on October 1st. “I’ve heard people complain that bowhunters are greedy and that they kill all of the bucks prior to the firearms season”. Not true says Socola, “Statistically bowhunters take a very small percentage of bucks when compared to the regular firearms season take. In my 31 years of bowhunting experience, I have never met a more sharing and caring group of hunters.” If we want to “harvest more antlerless deer and expose new hunters to the outdoors, why are we taking early season bowhunting time away from archers and at the same time increasing their license and permit fees, asked Socola?” New York States 2009 southern zone early archery season is the latest opening date in the Northeast states Socola, “let’s get our youth, seniors, persons of disability and all hunters out earlier in the season so that they can enjoy our natural resources in better weather while helping the DEC control our expanding deer herd.” The states of Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Ohio, and Virginia all have early archery season opening dates in September. Maine opens up on October 1st in most areas, Pennsylvania and Vermont open on October 3rd and Massachusetts on October 12th. Having an archery season opening date on a Saturday is not as critical for bowhunters as it is for firearms hunters. An October 1 opening date is an easily recognizable date and also coincides with the DEC’s licensing year. Socola added, ”Let’s not forget that the economic impact of hunters being afield for additional hunting days would add a huge influx of funds into the states sagging economy. More time afield has a direct correlation to monies spent.” According to a US Fish and Wildlife Service 2006 National Survey of Hunting, Fishing and Wildlife, New York’s 1.2 million hunters and anglers spent $5 million a day for a total of $1.8 billion. Annual spending by New York’s sportsmen is equal to the combined cash receipts for dairy products and apples, two of the top agricultural commodities in the state ($1.8 billion). NYSMLA President, Bill Brookover (Black Powder Bill) is excited about the possibilities this proposal offers. “The NYSMLA has tried for over 10 years to get a primitive muzzleloader season in the southern zone. This proposal will allow us to do that and also allows provisions for the youth and for bowhunters. Bowhunters and muzzleloader hunters are not at odds with one another in New York State. This is not a hunter issue but a season issue created by the DEC’s current season structuring. By working together, our organizations are showing sportsmen throughout New York State that we can put aside any differences and work together towards our common goals.” Pennsylvania (PA) has had an early muzzleloader season since 2000. The PA early muzzleloader season regulation states “Those wishing to hunt deer during the flintlock muzzleloading and muzzleloading seasons are limited to single-barrel long guns manufactured prior to 1800 or a similar reproduction.” PA also offers a special firearms season for junior and senior hunter. “Brookover states “Our joint proposal will allow the youth and seniors a chance to hunt in better weather. With the NYSMLA/ NYB proposal, kids can strike out after school for a late afternoon bow hunt because of the later sunset time. The antler-less primitive week will give families a chance to work together as a team instead of dropping Papa, Sally Mae & Jr. off at tree stands 200 yards apart. You’ll not see a dozen hunters driving deer through a block of woods either.” The straightforward proposal will allow increased hours a field during warmer weather with a sunset later in the day and provide a regular firearms season pre-Thanksgiving weekend opener. What better week to start the regular season? Many hunters are off the following Thursday & Friday and can take off the whole week using only three additional vacation days. Brookover added, “Our proposal will provide more and often more agreeable - deer hunting opportunities for families, kids, seniors, persons with physical disabilities and just about every hunter across the board.” New York Bowhunters, Inc. was formed in 1991 to promote bowhunting, educate hunters and non-hunters, and to fight anti-hunting legislation. NYB annually runs youth archery camps, a physically challenged program and supports special projects such as the “Gift Boxes for Troops” and helped establish an archery range for troops serving in Iraq. The New York State Muzzle-loaders Association was born from the Tryon County Militia in 1977 and is "dedicated to the continuing support of black powder events, people, and legislation." The NYSMLA has over 40 affiliated clubs throughout New York State. The NYSMLA has 6 major events in 2009. The first event was the "Primitive Snowshoe Biathlon” held in March and the last will be the 18th annual "Primitive Rendezvous & Hunt." The Rendezvous will be held just outside Inlet, NY at the Moose River Plains wilderness area October 9th - 16th with Visitors day Sunday October 11th 10:00am till 5:00 pm. NYB can be contacted by phone at 585-905-0961 or by email at [email protected] or check out their website at http://www.newyorkbowhunters.com/. For information about the NYSMLA contact them at NYSMLA Inc., 200 Clifford Drive, Vestal, NY 13850 or by email at [email protected] or 315-524-3457 or by checking out their website at http://www.nysmla.org/. - END -

What length are they cut at?????? FDXX75

I had the same if not worse experience with the Federal Premium Solid Copper Sabots, I even tried the lead version with little to no improvement in performance. I take on the lack of expansion is that the cooper is too hard and combined with the small diameter of the projectile, it flies true, hits hard but leave very small entry/exit wounds (which seal back up) Even with a perfectly placed shot in the vitals. I will be interested to see/hear the results you have on the SST's, please share your data and input if you will. FDXX75

First off, not knowing from what part of the deer or even if it was your deer's meat. I would suggest two options, pan seared quickly and slow cooked in a crock pot for 6-8 hrs or can it. (meaning canning process, not garbage can) Over cooking venison is one the worst things one can do, the more you cook it the tougher it will get (conventional stove top method that is) as far as the gamey taste, not much you can do but cover it up with some other flavoring........................................the gamey taste could be from a number of things that caused the meat to taste like it does. Yet another reason to process your own deer...........................you know what's in the package. FDXX75

Very nice, I bet the cleaning lady likes that room........................LOL FDXX75

I currently have 3 boxes of Remmy Solid Copper's left that I shoot in my H&R Ultra Slug Hunter. I have taken two deer with that set up combination. But, I feel I might/could get better results with a different slug. I have not had the time to to match it up with something else yet. What I did observe is the nose tabs(ears) break off and travel in multiple directions throughout the deer. The high 8pt. in my pics was the first buck harvested with this gun/ammo combo, while processing the deer I found 3 out of 4 tabs in the deer. 1 in the neck, 1 in a rib bone and the last one in the opposite hind quarter from the entry wound. FDXX75

Got these pics in an email today, taken somewhere in Canada Supposedly 4 times more rare than an albino FDXX75

As mentioned above, get to a local Pro Shop and have them watch you shoot a few arrows down range and evaluate you. Then make the adjustments needed and stay with them. It is all about "consistancy, consistancy, consistancy" ...................very much like golf, you get your stance, your proper draw length, same/consistant nock point, smooth easy release...................every single time. Work your way into it, as soon as you start getting fatigued, STOP!!!!!!!! Start small and work into it. Muscle strength and memory will come the more you work at it. I would suggest purchasing a cube or hanging bag target, much cheaper than paying to go to the indoor range all the time. If you can afford it or just want to, join the local shooting league ...............................the competition will drive you to become a better shooter in most cases. Best of luck FDXX75

Grouping is only one part of the equation, I have heard all about how well the small .45 & .50 cal bullets group, but also the performance issues (adequate entry/exit holes, poor blood trail, or the opposite, huge damage, but mostly the first) I tried others brands of similar construction with less than appealing results. FDXX75

I have not really compared them, I bought a doz. Muzzy's about 15 yrs ago on a clearance at a going out of business sale at a local archery shop along with 6 packages of replacement blades. I have always been pleased with the ones I have so I never really looked at anything else, until last yr. I like the Rage 3 blade, but not the prices. I will stay with the Muzzy's until I am out of them. FDXX75