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Just looking at the Political Humor thread to see what Jerkman is talking about, and all of Grouse's photo posts seem to have disappeared the same way that Rattler did after posting a photo of his illegal bait station in the trail cam thread. Anyone else able to see them, maybe it's just my computer.

No worries, thanks man, and I'm glad you respect my point of view, the same from my end.

You would think that no one would buy something like this, but I remember my grandma sending a Facebook prayer for this little girl suffering from ham face.

Not looking to prove anything here Chris, but being ignorant of the bellwether counties until you posted this, I did a quick search. According to the first thing that came up, it showed that more "bellwether" counties were wrong in 2016 than in 2020, mainly due to changing demographics. Not touting this as gospel, but it's an interesting rationale. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/where-did-all-the-bellwether-counties-go/amp/ As far as the number of votes, it seems reasonable to think that because people had more opportunity to vote in 2020, they did. It could be argued that they had more opportunity to cheat, which is also reasonable, though it's not proven. Really though, I'm wading into a discussion that I don't want to have, so I'm bowing out.

Uncredited text quoting someone's inner-thoughts? Hey, if it confirms my opinion, it must be true.

Sure, like I said, I try to adjust as more information is presented. Still, my interpretation of facts is going to be shaped by my perspective, but I always hope that I come to the right conclusion in the end. These cable news networks make their money by creating outrage and stoking tempers. No one has all of the facts in the beginning, if ever, so a lot of the information we consume is tainted by those presenting it. Add to that the fact that we're all viewing it through our own lens, and I would be amazed if anyone would ever agree with someone else 100%. Sorry, that was kind of a ramble on what you asked. Basically it boils down to, whatever facts I came across when the collusion story came out were certainly passed through my filter of being disappointed in Trump winning and believing that there might be something fishy. The same can be said for the "2020 Election Fraud", I'm sure that whatever "facts" there are are processed differently between you and I, and that's okay, we're 2 totally different people who can disagree (sorry if I'm putting words in your mouth, I hope you know that's not my intention). Same is that I respect you perspective on the vaccine. I don't agree with it, but I can see why you feel the way you do. In the end, we might disagree on some things, but I won't forget who was the first person to call me when I needed help dragging out a deer. That's way more important to me than anything Anderson Cooper or Tucker Carlson have to say.

There's a sub-forum for this stuff... Also, I hope this is a shot a sarcasm....

I think some issue is that sometimes we mistake opinions for facts (I know I do this a lot). Just because someone has facts that support their opinion, it does not therefore make their opinion a "fact". This is why I hammer on that we should respect differences in perspective. People are going to view "facts" in different ways based on their own experiences, bias, etc, and develop their own opinion based on their perspective. Facts should impact opinion, but opinions shouldn't affect the facts. So to use your Russian Collusion example, the fact there was that "They are investigating the Trump Administration for Russian Collusion". That was the fact, they were investigating. From my perspective (experience, bias, etc), I was like "sure, maybe they're on to something". From your perspective (all things the same), you're like "no way, it's a witch hunt". We're building our opinions from the same "fact", but neither of our opinions are fact. Neither one of us is wrong, our perspectives disagree. Now, with that said, since more "facts" have been out there, I've come around that there probably wasn't much if anything to the collusion thing. Again, that's my opinion based on "facts". I'm sure others would disagree. Another example is the Rittenhouse deal. When it happened, based on the reporting, I thought this kid was guilty of murder, and that he never should have been there in the first place. Now that I have more "facts" to work with, I don't feel the same way. I still don't think he should have been there (again, my opinion), but I do think he acted in self-defense. I do my best to adjust when I have more information (though I'm sure I fail at this as well sometimes). The problem is when people refuse to see that their way of looking at things isn't the only way to interpret things. We see that on here a bunch when the names start flying and "opinions" are being shouted as "fact" and shoved down throats. I really don't want any part of that. I think we're on the same page here @Northcountryman, and as always, I appreciate the respectful discussion.

If I've learned one thing in the past few years, it's that the "truth" is subjective. Regardless of how much "proof" someone has to back up their side, someone will find and equal amount of "proof" to negate it. I don't even know how to define accurate anymore. "And never the twain shall meet..."

I think to a certain point, anyone watching cable news (regardless of the network) is doing so to be entertained rather than informed. After spending a week and a half with my father in the house (who flips back and forth between CNN and Fox) they blather on about the same things all day long, and are 99% opinion with very little useful "news". I've got much better things to do with my time.

Just found out that my band mate and his wife has tested positive, his wife is in the hospital and he said he's "starting to feel it". Just played a gig with him on Saturday. We had a conversation before the show about booking at Turning Stone, and have to turn down dates because they have mandated vaccines, and he and 2 other members aren't vaccinated and will not get it (unless it was for a SPAC show). He flat out said that his "research" shows that the vaccine can be more dangerous than the virus. He's in his 70's, wife's in late 60's, both diabetic, she has respiratory issues, and he wears a colostomy bag full time. I just don't know what "research" he found. I respect his right to choose not to get the shot, but I'm kind of mad at him for being so reckless. I also can't imagine that his wife wasn't at least showing some symptoms on Saturday, and he still came to the gig and didn't say anything about it, even when it was a topic of conversation. I know my risk is low since I'm triple vaccinated, but my wife is upset and worried. I just hope they pull through, he is a good friend and I don't want to lose him. Sorry, just venting I guess.

Happy Birthday, I hope you have a great day!

All of mine are in a safe, unloaded and uncocked, ammunition in a separate locked cabinet. As a 4-H Tractor Safety Instructor, I'm glad to see the tractor safety pointers here Just make sure you're using your ROPS!

Welcome, and thank you for your service!

Heartbreaking. I'm sorry for your loss.

I’ve spooked plenty of deer, happens to everyone. The biggest concern I have isn’t that it’s a head on shot, but that it’s dark and you can barely see. Remember that seeing your target is only part of it, you have to be able to see what is in front of and beyond it. Keep at it, it sounds like your doing well for your 2nd year in.

Came in this afternoon. I didn’t take the bait, just wanted others to know in case they received the same thing.

I just got a PM from a new member nelsonnmatt asking if I want to buy a double barrel black powder shotgun. I messaged him back asking why he pm’d me. I could be wrong, but seems a little fishy. Did anyone else get a message?

We used to hunt a property in Illinois that had a steep bluff, and we'd kill a lot of deer below the bluff. We would take my uncles 6 wheeler out, wedge it behind a tree and drop the winch cable with some ropes attached. It worked like a charm.

With the arrival of our 2nd daughter in October, I knew my time in the woods would be hard to come by this year. I decided early on that I wasn’t going to bow hunt, as I wanted to spend as much time with my 2 year old as possible before her sister arrived. We have had family in and out for the past several weeks, leading right up to the start of gun season. It was great, but we never really developed a routine with our parents here. I finally figured that if I left to go hunting when our 2 year old started eating lunch, after which she goes down for a nap, then I would only be strapping my wife with both of them for an hour or two before I got home. I tried this method out last Wednesday, and it went really well. I let a spike buck walk, and made it home in plenty of time to take up the yoke. Today I played the same game. I left the house at around 11:45, and was up in my tree by 12:30. I had left my climber out on Wednesday, which meant the seat was plenty wet. However, I purchased a Muddy “Complete Seat” to put on top, and let me tell you, that thing is legit for keeping a butt toasty warm. It was a beautiful afternoon, with gentle snow showers throughout. At around 2:30 I heard something crashing around behind me, but since the woods was so thick behind me, I never saw what it was. I figured something had winded me. Then, at 3:30, this guy stepped into the swampy area that I was overlooking. Getting a clear shot at 100 yards, I took it and dropped him. The entry was in the right shoulder and exit through the neck. Then the real work began. I drug him the 100 yds across the semi-frozen swamp, tied a strap on him, and after crashing my own way through a creek, I pulled him across. Then I field dressed him and drug him another 200 yards to the hay field edge. At this point the land owner arrived and helped me drag him across 2 hay fields (his 4 wheeler was down and it’s wet enough that we didn’t want to drive on the fields) and I got him loaded in the back of the Subaru. The processor I use in Charlton was able to take him tonight as well, which my wife was really happy about This one was special to me, as I took this deer with a rifle that was gifted to me by a family friend. I documented my resurrection of the old Remington 760 in a previous thread. It really felt nice to take a deer with a rifle that’s approaching it’s 70th birthday, not to mention period optics to boot. My mom showed the picture I sent her to the old man that gifted me the rifle, and he was over the moon. I can’t wait to tell him the story the next time we go back to Illinois. Additionally, this is my first rifle deer and my first NY buck. He’s by no means my biggest buck, an 8 pointer, but it’s meat in the freezer and I checked a lot of “firsts” off this afternoon. If you read this far, good for you. I didn’t mean to write a book here, but it was a special hunt for me. Now I get to enjoy the holiday season with my family and we can have some grilled tenderloin for Christmas!

Thanks. Hardest I’ve ever worked getting a deer out. I had to drag across a swamp, pull him across a creek, and then out of the woods. I’m bushed, but he is now safely in the hands of the processor

Thanks Chris, I appreciate the offer to help!

Anyone in the Galway/Charlton area want to help drag one out? He was further in than I thought

In for the afternoon. It is a beautiful day.