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Four Seasons replied to grampy's topic in Deer Hunting
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And…. It’s none of your business. I know plenty that use crossbows during archery and plenty that kill vermin day or night and day of the year. To each their own. They accept the responsibility of their actions so that’s on them.
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Yes and no. You see the states do have a live test that could be used and it’s been proven over 80% effective. They say that’s not good enough yet they accept a Tb blood test that proven around the same effectiveness. Things they don’t want the common public to know. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Hello. They have to be dead to be tested and for the 3rd time they do test 100% of dead animals on farms!! And no they don’t need to Every harvested animal BUT they should in fact test more than 2700 out of 260,000 hunter harvested if they think this is the big bad boogie man they say it is. The fact that they test 100% of farmed animals in a state that does not even allow importation from other states shows the true agenda. The statistics speak loudly for themselves. -
I received a response from the DEC this morning
Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Good news. Kinda. They have a slim chance of getting those 2 deer for testing. Probably dead as I write this. They need to get out there and grab 50 samples or so from around that area. Say a 20 mile circle and see if anything comes up. To have 2 that look like that in 1 area is strange. And to not find other positives in different stages of sickness would also be strange. -
Damn......I'm going to have to call the D.E.C. again
Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
I can show you pen’s full of positive deer looking perfectly healthy after 3 years and counting. CWD kills very few although many may have it. CWD is no doubt the Covid of the deer world. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
You would think. But not so sure the tax man is used much. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Yup and then it was all over. Can’t find something your not looking for. And the numbers prove they are not looking for it. CWD has been a white coats dream disease. Keep throwing money at research for something that’s been around for 60 years and has done no harm. Funny thing is CWD is the same exact thing as Scrapies in sheep and you hear nothing about any problems in the sheep industry. That would not help their agenda. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Lol. More high fence equals less tags sold by states. I know your not up to speed on the industry but as hunter numbers drop across most states the high fence industry continues to expand and they know the money involved in high fence and they also see the less and less tags being sold in states. You really would be shocked at the number of private properties that people have fenced in and do their own thing. Ny is actually one of the smallest when it comes to the numbers of private and pay to hunt places and there is a shortage of animals every single year because of demand. If they were really worried and looking for something they would test a hell of a lot more then 2700 deer a year and they would look for it more on the Pa line where there is no doubt it has already walked right into the state. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Yes they do pick some out of taxi shops for sure. The numbers tell the true facts. 2720 animals tested out of how many animals in ny? There were like 253,000 hunter harvested alone. Add road kills in the picture and the % of tested drop even more. I’m sure we already have it in this state already seeing that it has been found on the Ny/Pa border. Regardless it’s still a harmless disease in the big picture of the whitetail deer. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Well that’s not to difficult of an answer. They shut down farms…Which accomplished nothing. While at the same time have no control of the same stuff in the wild? CWD has been around for 60 plus years with no harm to any herds anywhere. Hell Wisconsin jumped off the handle years ago a killed every deer on site year around to try and stop something that is spontaneous in nature. And now that state is still loaded with CWD in about every county and have more deer now then before they killed them off. CWD sucks to see but causes no harm to man or beast anywhere ever. EHD is a yearly disease that kills more deer in 1 year across the country than CWD has in the 50 plus years it’s been around. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Sooner or later? I think I just told you above that all captive deer need to be tested already. And paid for by a state that says it’s to expensive to test more of their own? Yeah that sounds like they are real worried about a disease. If they were that worried they would test all deer. Resources costing dollars? By making the statement that hunters can’t bring deer in whole from other states??? Words cost cash? Please do tell what else they have done? I see you failed to do the research on the numbers of deer tested looking for this disease that has done absolutely no harm to any herds in any state behind fence or in the wild? Typical. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Not even close. Research how many were tested last year out of the total deer take. And that’s not counting road kills and people calling in with sick deer reports. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
You should demand they take a few samples from that area. Be it killed by them or hunters heads turned in. That’s the problem with states. You see they say it costs to much to test to many heads out of the wild…….Yet the kicker is….You Ready? Deer farms have to turn in every dead deer head.. Mandatory!!!!……And the STATE pays for every test!!!!! Hence the finding of CWD behind fence first because we are the only ones testing any animals. The DEC is not in the game to find CWD in the wild before it’s found on farms. A sick game that’s been played out for years now. You could even take your heads to them and tell them they were acting funny when you shot them and demand they be sent in for testing. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
Sad but DEC will be in no hurry to get out there to sample some of the local herd if they can’t get either one of those 2 he had pic’s of. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
That looks more like an EHD sickness. Bit and dead within days. Not long drawn out wasting away like CWD. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
It sure points to cwd. Can’t believe it’s age but also strange the vermin have not killed them. I would love to see them get tested for cwd. -
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Four Seasons replied to Water Rat's topic in Trail Camera Pictures
We have not had a case since 2005 in the wild and behind fence. Hate to say it but that’s not EHD. That gives them fever and dead within days. Is this anywhere close to the Pa border? They have piles of cases of cwd and hunting moves along. Hate to say it but DEC will not Pursue this because they don’t want CWD found in the wild first but Dept Of Ag would be all over it if notified. -
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Four Seasons replied to grampy's topic in Deer Hunting
Why wait? The East side of the park is open. -
My target buck is still roaming the area. He is a pretty one.
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Interesting article on CWD and deer farms.
Four Seasons replied to First-light's topic in Deer Hunting
Ya’ll be careful out there. This will be the next to wipe out man and beast. -
Interesting article on CWD and deer farms.
Four Seasons replied to First-light's topic in Deer Hunting
Let’s be real here. This lady is at the top of the deer farming game. She has been double fenced and a closed herd… As myself… for years. She lives in Wisconsin where if one was to get educated they over reached when the first cases in the wild came out and they shot every Whitetail on site year around and decimated the herd, saying that the shit was going to kill deer hunting forever! Well as you can see the CWD positive herd rebuilt itself back into the millions in a few short years and it continues on today. They are doing nothing to stop the spread in wild deer yet they try and shut down every farm that gets it???? That again points to the real only killer cwd is and that’s government trying to wipe out their competition. Fact. Now this lady is also the leader in breeding CWD….. Which is the same exact thing as Scrapies in sheep… out of deer farms so she was a bigger target. Do you see any rules against sheep farmers? Hell No! If anyone thinks cwd is more than just Pneumonia in Whitetails and is anything close to the real deer killer in EHD needs their head examined. -
Not much different then a trail cam that vibrates your ass when your buck walk out into the field. And people have issues with High Fence. Whatever !!