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I get it-- I get the subscription! C'mon Grow you know me better than that! lol I think it's crazy for that guy to have a gun! I wonder how liable the place is?? I think the issue was one of the best!

Grow, I get it, what a story. Only in Bath NY!!! besides that I thought it is a wonderful issue, great pictures and stories!

Paulie, I have 54 acres.

We hang'em by the neck. If the deer gets mounted, by the hind legs. Make sure the yotes don't eat his nose off!

My property is 325 miles away. Takes 6 hrs to get there, I have a long term plan and will move up there in about 8 years. All the points brought up are valid. For me hunting in the Finger lakes is awesome, worth every mile I drive. I love my property and my neighbors are great. I lease to a farmer 20 acres and it cuts the taxes in aprx half. It's a big decision buying land, currently with the Marcellous gas play going on you have to be careful. Good luck-oh-there is nothing like taking your first buck on your own property! JMHO

We did that last year and brought a buck right in! Will do it again this year for sure.

8P for me.

Makes a lot of sense to me. Thank

That is really great, most of us won't even try that or have the patience for it. When you say "I track small pieces of property" my problem is that you don't always end up shooting the buck in its bed. What do you do when you jump the deer and have to continue tracking on a small piece of property? At some point you are going to run out of you property and be trespassing. What are you thought or game plan when this happens. I own 54 acres and always hold back on tracking because of this thought. Not that my neighbors are unfriendly I just don't want to ruin their hunt walking around on their property.

That is some accomplishment shooting them in their bed. I know how you hunt, big woods a lot of tracking.

Joe you get them with the bow or gun? Great picts everyone, My first was at sixteen she.....ah.. I mean the deer was a spike horn shot in Deposit on a friends property. I'll try to dig up picts.

Nice trip- next time you'll get'em.

I'm a land owner and never have been denied or had to use preference points.

I always thought being a land owner was a slam dunk on getting a permit. Bubba is right it just increases your odds, puts you at the top of the list. I also read that you do need to bring your tax bill every year to get the permit, still doesn't prove you own the land at the time of buying the permit but rules are rules. I will apologize to that kid who gave me a hard time when I applied for the landowner permit. It's black and white.

I try to hunt all the ones we put up. On 54 acre we have six stands, 4 ladder and two hang on platform. There are two other perm stands. You just never know when they will come by and to the least likely stand.

Nice story Bill. That was my father in law with the wool pants and cigar! Last year was his last in the woods. He is now in a nursing home when I go visit him he still tells the same stories from years ago, they make me laugh every time. They had a tent from korea and a wood stove that heated the place. Life is short, live all you can!

My BIL goes every year. Ludwig outfitters in Zainsville. He is real happy with them, one guy in the party shot a 140 class buck last year.

Yea-that was funny!

In hunting, a Texas heart shot is a shot fired at the base of the tail of an animal facing directly away from the shooter. The term is euphemistic argot. The objective of such a shot may be to break the spinal cord, break the large bones of the hips, cut the femoral artery, or have the bullet penetrate the length of the animal's body until reaching the heart and lung area. The shot carries many ethical concerns. It is frowned upon by many hunters; it is generally recommended only as a last resort finishing shot on a fleeing wounded animal. A shot that breaks the spine or hip should instantly kill or incapacitate an animal; however, damage to the digestive tract will likely lead to inhumane suffering and affect much of the animal's edible meat if it is recovered. The term "Texas heart shot" may be used in other contexts simply to refer to any gunshot wound to the buttocks region. I guess they don't teach this shot in the hunter safety course??

When you kill something there is always the chance of prolonged agony before death. Whether it be 3 seconds or 30. Sure some shots are better than others and are more ethical. There is always that chance of the animal hanging on longer than you wish it would, whether it's flopping around or just laying there taking gasps of air. Either way, we are hunters and have to expect this when we try to take an animals life. I once dropped a buck in its tracks at 50. The shot was just above the shoulder. When I got up to the deer his eyes locked on to mine and started to kick but got no where. He stopped kicking and took about 10 deep breaths and expired. I explained the scene to my BIL and he told me you have two options, walk away (let the animal expire on its own) or put another one into its heart. Next time it's a heart or neck shot to end it quickly.

Very cool-good job!

I'm out there all the time in Baiting Hollow. Will bring my bow and stop on by.

I will put in 5 days for bow and 9 days for gun finish up with 3 at smoke pole.

Texas Heart shot should only be done with a gun. Most of us bow hunt in tree stands and the angle is not correct for this shot. JMHO