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This guy was not hunting... he was poaching... he killed someone in the act of committing a crime... if he was robbing a store and his gun went off (even accidently) and killed the store clerk... I bet he'd be charged with murder...personally I don't see the difference here. Like I stated before... he should have gotten a stiffer sentence just for what he did leading up to killing the guy. IMO there is no excuse for killing a human because you mistook them for an animal... I don't know a single human being that looks anything like a whitetail deer... this was not an accident .. it was negligence... two different things Hey Joe, Your doing a real good Sean Hannity on me. Nice edit! My comment came from wether these accidents happen in legal hunting situations. Good try though. Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you.

How cool is that! Thanks for sharing the picts!

Great pictures, wow, I'll look at these all day!

Series was close sucks to see it end in a blow out-till next year.On to bigger and better things-good luck Turkey hunting!

I guess these are all opinions nothing illegal going on in these reports Bubba. I'm not playing a game, when "you" make such statements and absolutes I will defend my opinion with facts. Really, the way you carry on it amazes me that you are a safety instructor. Some of your posts are get real twisted. I should know better then to go back and forth with you. "been there, done that" In New York, reporting of hunting injuries involving firearms is required by law, and all incidents are investigated, either by local law enforcement officers or a state environmental conservation officer. Hunting-injury reports filed with DEC include a description of the event, the primary factor contributing to the injury as determined by the investigator, and the type and color of clothing worn by the participants. Hunter orange use was defined as the wearing of one or more of the following solid orange colored garments: hat, coat, vest, or pants. The number of licensed hunters in New York during 1989-1995 was used as the denominator to calculate injury rates. Case Reports Case 1: On December 3, 1995, four hunters separated to flush deer out of an overgrown field. Two hunters walked through the field attempting to drive deer toward the other two hunters who were in a stationary position. One of the stationary hunters observed movement in the thick brush and, believing the movement to be a deer, fired his shotgun at a range of 48 yards. However, the movement had been caused by a hunter who was not wearing orange and who was struck in the chest by the shotgun slug and killed. Case 2: On October 30, 1995, two hunters looking for grouse became separated while hiking through an area of dense brush. One hunter flushed a grouse, which took flight, and fired at the bird. The other hunter, who was in the line of fire 25 yards away and dressed in camouflage clothing, was wounded by 12 pellets to the upper body. Case 3: On May 1, 1995, a licensed guide assisted a client in hunting turkey. The guide issued calls to attract turkeys. Another hunter in the area heard the calls and, believing that a turkey was nearby, began to move through open woods toward the sound. The hunter, who was wearing camouflage clothing, moved to within 40 yards of the guide and fired his shotgun after observing movement. The guide, who was not wearing orange, was wounded by shotgun pellets in the shoulder, neck, and face. Injuries During 1989-1995

Not to beat a dead horse but here we go: In Nebraska's 2009 accidents, six of the shooters were 10 to 19 years old, four were 20 to 29 and two were 40 to 49. In seven incidents, the shooter shot himself or herself. Someone else was shot in five incidents.In two instances, a non-hunter was injured or killed. Three involved illegal activity. Six involved the discharge of a rifle, three a shotgun and three a handgun. Here is the link http://www.omaha.com/article/20100113/NEWS01/100119836/0/NEWS08 Not all hunting incidents involve illegal activity.................

Bubba, So you are telling me every hunting incident is related to illegal activity?? I find that hard to believe, very hard. Second if my brother went off into the woods with a hunting companion and there was an incident it would be investigated. At that point the law would make the decision who was "if" there was any fault. No I would not yell for a stiffer sentence if everything checked out. Last I do not take the opposite side of things just to keep it going, this topic is very important to all of us. We all have opinions that's all.

It was all illegal we know that. Was there intent to kill, no. I would not push for a harsher sentence. The individual should be banned from the use of any type of weapon for life. 3-5 years in jail. Imposing a harsher sentence on a Father that mistakingly kills his son, wether legal or not, will destroy the family even more. JMO then IMO they should not be out breaking the law, they would not have to worry about destroying the family. what about the family of the guy he killed? I bet he was someones dad and son. Do they not count? 1 to 3 years indeterminate. that means he could be out in a year. If he drove drunk and killed somene, should he deserve more then? Bubba, You know as well as I that this could of happened in a legal hunting situation. Wether or not they were breaking the law is not the point here. We are just stating our opinions and mine differs from yours. No big deal. This happens in legal and illegal situations and both families suffer in the long run. Hunt smart-Hunt safe.

Yea that was good, hits many topics we talk about here. All should watch.

It was all illegal we know that. Was there intent to kill, no. I would not push for a harsher sentence. The individual should be banned from the use of any type of weapon for life. 3-5 years in jail. Imposing a harsher sentence on a Father that mistakingly kills his son, wether legal or not, will destroy the family even more. JMO

I guess your talking about me. If you read the article it makes no mention of hunting illegally after dark or with a shotgun at muzzleloader season. Yes if you click on the link with the story you get the whole picture. I get it after hearing all the facts, 1 year is a bit to lean. Fact is even with the muzzleloader he still would of been shot. The fact is the both were hunting after dark. Would you have a bit more remorse if it was a dad and his 16 year old kid? I think so... BTW I think when you carry a gun in the woods you better have all your facilities in order and know the law. Too often we humans take too much for granted, it could never happen to me, but it does. If it was his 16 year old kid that he shot.. he would have imposed his own lifetime sentence.. a lifetime without his child! I didn't get anywhere in the story that the guy killed was a friend of his.. or just a guy joining in their "poaching" group that evening... I might have missed it though. Doesn't seem to me he had any concern about anyones safety anyway Yes that would be a life long sentence indeed. I think it just says hunting companion.

I guess your talking about me. If you read the article it makes no mention of hunting illegally after dark or with a shotgun at muzzleloader season. Yes if you click on the link with the story you get the whole picture. I get it after hearing all the facts, 1 year is a bit to lean. Fact is even with the muzzleloader he still would of been shot. The fact is the both were hunting after dark. Would you have a bit more remorse if it was a dad and his 16 year old kid? I think so... BTW I think when you carry a gun in the woods you better have all your facilities in order and know the law. Too often we humans take too much for granted, it could never happen to me, but it does.

I took the picture and did all sorts of manipulation to it-can't figure it out.

Yea, what I don't get is the other family was pushing for a harsher sentence. They were hunting partners?????? Must be some other bad blood for another family to push for more jail time?

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I know of a guy that tries to befriend you, talks up a storm about hunting. Invites you to drive deer on his property on last weekend. Calls himself a guide and charges guys to stay at one of his rentals. He owns hardly any acreage but get permission to hunt on other people, mostly from out-of-town. When your not there he brings over his customers to hunt your property, what a hoot! I met this guy a few years back when we had shot a real big buck and it was hanging from the pole at my camp. I knew right after he left that something wasn't right. My neighbor came by and told me all about him and said stay away. Sab-you live and learn. Sorry it didn't work out for you. I have heard worse stories than yours be thankful you actually got to hunt. Some people show up to hunt to find the guide has left with all your money.

Bear picts are great!

I'm quoting myself but have to add that groceries are through the roof also. On top of paying high gas prices the trip to the market is also very expensive. Everybody will need to chip in at camp to lessen the hit to the wallet.

Longer trips at camp less frequently though.

Looks like you could do a stand-in for Lou Dobbs! lol

Hard way to lose, been theer done that!. Another blown lead, it's going to be really tough in Philly I don't expect them to win.

Went to visit the grave site of my Grandparents the other day along with my folks. My Mom goes on to tell me that during hunting season they were visiting and out walks two guys with camo and shot guns. The guys got arrested real quick. Don't know the follow up but I'm sure the fine was pretty big.

Great game! I would like to see the Bruins and Sabres win!

Maybe next year fellas....now step back from that ledge nice and easy! Nobodys gotta get hurt. ??? I found this prediction pretty accurate so far. Might have to change my username to Nostradamus,lol!

You also have a baby to look after, although they just eat and sleep at this stage. The game is a good excuse!!