New York Hillbilly

Super fishing on Black Lake over the years, Indian River, and Butterfield, Red, Clear, lakes. Also, tons of fish on Chippewa Bay. I still want to know about snowshoe hares and rabbits though. I'll hang onto my land down here and come back for deer hunting I guess, even if I move north.

or Ted Nugent..........lol......he looks wilder than the cat in that pic

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So it sounds like the old saying is true, about the best predictor of the future being the past.

I'm curious about the lower number of deer up north these days. Back in 1973, I spent a summer working on my uncles farm in the Hammond area, and never saw one deer all summer. These reason for no deer I was told, was because they were shot pretty much anytime they were seen, season or not. Well, I would have no way of knowing it that was correct or not, as it was a long time ago, I was only 13 at the time, and was only there for one summer. I was told, and have read, that over the years the deer population seemed to grow like crazy, as many of the small farms went out of business and the land use changed. In any of my road trips up that way for business or pleasure I would see deer in the fields as I drove along, which sort of supported that claim. Now we have had a few winters hat have been really mild, low deer mortality due to weather, and with such low hunting pressure, common sense would tell you there should be even more deer. But, both comments on this site and the DEC reports tell a different story and say there are less deer. Why? With so much land, so little pressure, the thought that you would have a better chance at a mature buck elsewhere confuses me. I read sometime back on this site that there was a group of Amish guys bragging about shooting a pile of deer. I don't remember if it was in or out of season. I'm not finger pointing or blaming any one group here. I'm only bringing up what I read on this site, and makes me wonder if there are others out there doing it as well, and to what degree poaching is having an effect on the deer population up north. In other words, is it a return to what I was told back in 1973? PS. Are there any snowshoe hare or a decent population of rabbits for my beagles to chase?

Ok well there you go....it's an arctic fox. Now we've covered it just like my favorite shotgun....over and under lol

josephmrtn, I hope you realize I was only kidding about it being an ant eater. lol Anyone with a set of eyes can clearly see it's really a wombat.

SteveB............lol..........now that was funny...........forgive me if it is true........but still made me laugh!

Well folks, as I said I have a job interview next week in Rochester and have been looking into hunting and fishing there. I also interviewed in Ogdensburg yesterday. No offers on the table yet! So for anyone in the know, how about enlightening me about hunting deer that far north. I am keenly aware of the fishing because I have done a ton of it up there over the years. But am totally clueless about the hunting. Rochester VS Ogdensburg for hunting..............how about it!

Happy belated Birthday!!

Rough coated ant eater.

Well.............you guys did a good enough job freaking me out where I'm too scared to look. Thank you for saving me a trip to the ER.

growalot All very good points! These were also questions I asked and got pretty iffy answers. The zoning is a real big deal. I should know as I am on our town zoning board. Some towns, I would like to think most, like ours, are reasonable and play by the rules. In the past though I have seen some real rogue groups who didn't take to "outsiders". And at one time, "I was the outsider", which is something I do not want to go through again.

Yup....I had to smile when I heard the part about deer living i the big woods. When I pictured the in between the corn field part my eyes lit up. Sure enough, I can see it now, let everyone hike about in the woodlot looking for deer, where they are supposed to live, while the deer lay there in the brush quietly watching the hunters look for the deer where they are supposed to live, from the spot they are not supposed to be. LOL!

I spoke to a real estate agent today about a piece of property, and he really didn't sound very knowledgeable or interested when asked him about hunting on the parcel. He told me there was no "real woods", "just a lot of brush between cornfields", and the deer stay else where in "the bigger woods". I might have to go do a drive by when I see my daughter next week. LOL! Oh....and Belo....the 300K for 10 acres scares me but the "shack" part might be a step up from my tent.

JFB, Thanks for the info and invite. I used to be an avid fisherman, everything from bass, pike, bullheads all night by a fire, and every trout stream for miles. Trout for me with either dug worms or my favorite, a small silver phoebe.

Wow what a nice fish! What is it about 22 or 24 inches? My hats off to you fishing in this cold weather. Well maybe as cold as it is I better keep my hat on. LOL! If I moved that way I would have to sell my place here and buy a house with a little land. I was thinking maybe something with 25 or so acres in a rural area around Rochester.

Hey folks! I was just wondering if anyone here could give me some input about hunting around Rochester, or fishing in the Genesee river. My wife wants to move out towards Chili, Henrietta, or Webster, to be near my daughter and son in law. I have been offered a job interview, which could make the move a real option, if we chose to act on it. Problem here is, I have it real good right now in the hunting department and am not keen on giving that up. It would be great to be closer to my daughter though because we are a close family and want to keep it that way when grand children come along. Any info on deer, rabbit hunting out that way or fishing the Genesee would be appreciated. Thank you

Happy New Year board friends!! Peace

Welcome to the site and to NY. Happy hunting!

My wife and I were just on our way into Webster to visit my daughter, when she called frightened about the shooter on the loose. Living only a couple miles away, listening to the sirens, she was terrified. And to be honest, so were we, on our now race to get to her house. My heart and prayers to the families of all those touched by the selfish, thoughtless actions of yet one more mad man. How very sad!

Don't let the cellar get you down........have one more of the drinks and get "Blarney stoned"....lol

I used to try to hunt grouse but have always been miserable at it. I have often said if a deer could jump high enough into the air I would never be able to fill a tag. LOL! There have always been a few on my property but the population is way up this year for some reason. I watched three females walking around one day that were followed by a very excited male. He was puffing up, fanned out, and trying desperately to impress them as they just walked along pecking at the ground. I have also seen a few "timber doodles".Those silly things will hunker down and let you almost step on them before they take off sometimes.

Welcome aboard, jersey guy. I used to poke around up that way years ago, but mostly keep to my own neighborhood these days.