Four Season Whitetail's

Dave your program must be working weli,like someones real close to me. I dont really care about the killing.Yes taking a mature buck is awesome but to me when i go sit in a stand or watch,I expect to see deer every sitting.Might sound selfesh but if your program and herd are in good shape and working,you should see deer 9 times out of 10..Sucks going hunting and not atleast see what your hunting!!

Yes sir,I was thinking the same thing while i was sittin in this crappy weather this morning.Mabey i went a little overboard on some issues and a little to far on the language.If i in fact did,I apoligize to anyone that was offended.I think on my land it takes a massive amount of food plots of different value for the deer through out the WHOLE year to go along with the natural food the land carries,to achieve my goals of my land management.Mabey on joe's or someone else's property it will take a whole different spin!!All this crap meant nothing as i watched my buddies daughter's reactions as she walked up on her first muzzleloader take on a big fat doe!!! All the work is worth it in those moments!! Good luck and stay safe!!

Same to you dave but i didnt have a mature buck come in range with the bow.Seen some good ones out of range and up here in the morning is the start of the smokepole season! Now they might want to stay a little farther out there. I will be taking my 3 day weekend trips down to letchworth around trick or treat time so the bow is not put away just yet! Good luck to you!!!

Same here 12 mounts and let my guy cape out each one.He said there was no extra charge for that and he would much rather do it himself to save problems when getting the mount put together!!!

now we have come to fellas planting food plots in huge agricultural areas where deer couldn't starve if they wanted to.. Joe you just cant stand the fact that some else might be at the very least at the top of his management game in their area .You make such stupid statements and then come back on them.The statment above was a statement you said a few posts back and then you come back and say that if someone does not plant enough the whole herd will wither and die.The fact is you cant stand someone coming on here and showing that your 1960's type of deer management might not be the same in todays world of deer! I dont need to spout bullshit about anything i know about the whitetail deer.You make it sound like you go out and put a little fertilizer spike on any tree or bush the deer might eat!! Whatever.. As far as having older bucks on your property ,if you were as bright as you give yourself credit for you would know that in order to grow large mature bucks and hold them on your property you need to give them everything that they need to survive...I think they call that management!!! If you have good enough management to carry and hold mature bucks well the rest of the herd is a no brainer! Its not real hard to figure out that if people take the largest bucks in a certin area and people ride down the road and watch natural rutting activity in the middle of the day and see bucks and does bedded out in the wide open harvested farm fields in the middle of the day.You probably have some of the best hunting in the area.Good management and good hunting go hand in hand in my world.You might want to watch some of the TOP tv shows on deer management and how they do it and kill the biggest bucks possible in their area year after year.Just because what you do in your area for your herd and your number of deer works for you does not mean it will work for anyone else.Just as what i do might not work else where.But if you think for one minute that i will back down for the way i manage my land you are sadly mistaken.Like i said before and has been seen by everyone your idea of management is not the only way to manage a piece of property.Also you might want to go back up and read daves post before you slap to many backs as he pointed out YOUR flaws in YOUR ideas of true management

Yup no problem....Me and all the other trailer park guys on this site that do their own kind of wildlife managment will just keep on keepin on because as we can read by your post's, nobody can or will be more educated than yourself on the subject of wildlife management. I will be more than happy to stick to my management plan and take 4 to 6 31/2 year old bucks on some of the best hunting in the black river valley...You should ride by some time and see what someone else knows about wildlife management...Just dont bother stopping to ask to hunt....Were full!!!!

Wow you really need to come down off your high horse and get with the rest of the team.Why do you think that anyone else on this site is any less educated on deer and wildlife than yourself.You make it sound like everybody else are a bunch of dipsh!ts when it comes to this subject.Just a little info for you my so educated friend.I have been farming on a farm for over 30 years i have been evolving and growing with food plots for atleast 10 plus years just like eveyone else .You might have a classroom education on some of this but trust me when i say you sound like a real dipstick with your statement that the whole deer herd is gunna wither up and die if someones food plots dry up.First off deer have been and forever will be on this earth no matter what and i dont care what you say there is not enough deer ANYWHERE in ny state with that kind off numbers for that to even happen.If there is a place where the numbers of whitetail deer are up it is in my back yard...Why you ask are people knockin down my door to hunt and to lease..Well let me tell you ..because apparently you are not the only one with any knowldge of the whitetail deer.So how about we agree that you can run your mouth about the way you care for your wildlife and see a deer or two a day for the last how many years and i will run my mouth about the way i care for my wildlife where a hunter sees deer every sitting,bucks most sittings and when one steps out at 3 yrs old which happens about 4 to 6 times a year on my farm shoots one of the best bucks of their life and i wont even bring up the 10 to 12 toms you can see anyday in the month of may....No i have no clue as to what im doing....What a joke!!!!

Gunna be tough to keep the powder dry for some of us up here in the northern zone!!!!

Wow are you friggin kidding me.You get on here with all your i know all about the whitetail deer and you make an assnine statement like that.You really do need to come out of the freakin mountains and come back into the present.First if nobody ever told you the whitetail deer is a browser and second if you think there is a deer herd in anywhere in ny state that has that kind of deer numbers for a so far fetched story as that would even be possibe. I have 10,000 acre of military land that boarders our 700 acres.Let me walk you through a hunt that just happened on my killing plots tonight. Mind you i am sitting on over 500 acres of soybeans along with my do no good for the deer,i have no freakin clue acres and acres of killing plots.Step one deer come out of the woods.(probably ate nothing natural on the way out) Stepped out into the beans(farm product..not killing plot yet) worked their way down the edge of the woods to their favorite 5 apple trees(god givin browse unless there were a***ole food plotters that didnt give a rats ass about deer back then either) Walked down the edge where my alpalpa,clover 5 pluse acres(yes busted this is one of my dont give a rats ass about the deer killing plots) Munched on some of that for a bit and then they went on there way down this little swampy beaver flow area out of my sight but(busted.heading to one of my 2 plus acres of corn of 5 total thal i dont give a rats ass about the deer that i leave standing all year killing plots).I could ramble on here all night about what i do for the i dont give a rats ass about the deer around my stomping grounds.Now if you want to play out your so far out there could never happen in the wild shit that you spoke about you can step behind my 8ft fence where my scent production herd grows then yes you would have hit the nail on the head,(man givin and man takeith away no natural food=dead deer) scenerio would play out.I would lay a bet that if possible and you really knew how i dont give a shit about this and dont give a shit about that for the deer around here you would be one of the many that knock on my door asking to hunt and one of the ones that sit on the side of the road watching rutting bucks chase does and bed in the open field in the middle of the day guys. You can agree with or disagree with anything you want but dont get on here saying shit that you are clueless about...Mabey your classroom days of learning about deer are in the past and your welcome to join the rest of us 100 acre dont give a rats as food plotters!!!!!!!! PS I do agree that the ones that scratch out the spot under their ladders and throw some seeds on the groud are just making killing plots with no other agenda on their mind!!!

Well i think it does mean plant plant plant if you are going to do it for the wildlife in a whole you need to plant yur arse off and you need to plant a diversity of plots that will carry or at least benifit the herd all year..Not just hunting season...You also need to think about where you put the plots..You wouldnt want to plant say 3 acres of corn 1/2 mile from their bedding or wintering area.

I really thought it was kinda big for a northern zone buck... Not alot of them runnin around up here. Who knows..Sucks either way.That would have made a great opening morning or the last day of the year!!

Not sure on that one alli can tell you is the pic came from a st lawerance cty state trooper and sent to my buddy a watertown police officer.Dated aug 22 at 7.28 pm.I kinda thought it looked like some damadge but pull them together the 3 or 4 in max they are seperated and i would have to say he is still a book deer!!!

Really a 150in???? Nice but hard to see 150!!

This is the deer that got hit between Canton and Ogdensburg. 30 inch inside spread.

It was around the curves leaving flackville, Down near i think whites junkyard it used to be called.What a buck he was!!!

I cant seem to get this pic to load. Its the one in my profile pic. Awesome buck hit by car close to home!!If someone knows how to put it on, give me your email and i will send it to you to put up. It is a wicked buck to see!!

0951 Here is a picture off a deer that was hit by a car between Canton and Ogdensburg. Some of my stomping ground. I wish this one would've made it through. 30 inch inside spread.

Thats easy...Shoot either before he gets to the pile or after he walks away. That way you wont be shootin a bear ON a bait pile!!! Leave the camera in the truck,Take the batteries out of the trail cam....Oh by the way...Congrats on a nice bear kill!!!

Looks like a good adult doe..Congrats..But you never should have shown the bait plot at the start of the video!!!

So you think that a 50 acre woodlot is going to sustain 50 to 100 deer through a north country winter... I would have to say you are sadly mistaken reguardless of what i do to enhance the woods.I appreciate what you say you know as far as deer nutrition but i would have to say i know a thing or two about the needs of the whitetail deer. On another note hunting on mountain land and farm land is alot different than supplemental feeding for wintering deer on farm or mountain land.When 500 acres of soybeans or corn is harvested depending on the crop of the year,the deer and turkeys and any other animal that has been hitting that food source changes.

I for one am thankfull that they changed the way they notified you of a new post on a topic. Before if you had something to say on say 3 different topics they would notify you of each post.My freakin phone was blowin up all day. Now you call follow a post if you want them to let you know...My battery now lasts longer!!

Joe the only question i have is..Do you think that there is any difference in a hunter planting up in the mountains where you hunt or in the farm belt where most people hunt.When you talk feeding deer in the mountains you have woods and can cut tree tops.ect.ect to help get the deer through the winter.On our 700acres this year i have over 500 acres of soybeans planted,mabey 50 acres of so called baiting plots 100 acres of swamp,cattails,high grass,ect and mabey 50 acres of woods.Its a total different game on different place of the deers home range.It would be very hard reguardless of what you do to 50acres of woods to sustain any amount of animals throught the hard months. I dont know if you have saw up to 100 deer in a bait plot in the middle of a hard north country winter but if they could talk and would lift their heads up out of the feed lonh enough....I think they would say we are thankful for this meal!!!

Jiminey christmas you guys are hard on these hunters that get paid to do what they do.Most times its a landowner that calls such andsuch big names and tells them there is this big buck hanging out in their woods.Then pro hunter pays x amount to the land owner to hunt that deer for a week. Then again sometimes they just let them in the gate and say see you at supper.

Thanks steve,I hope i am one of the young guys you speak of..Pushin the big 50 and still planting on over 700 acres of some prime hunting land.Myself im more baiting for the turkeys on the 6 or 7 food plots in that 700 acres every year.I can see big deer any time its those coons,yotes,woodchucks and all the rest that kind of game animal i like to see.I have been bamboozlin people for a long time with my bait and switch antic's...Glad to see some 30 yr olds comin in with reinforcements as im getting old,Mabey i should just open the place up to the 30 something hunters that knock on my door every year to ask if they can hunt on all my bait piles!