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Do you think now that the does have been pushed around the first week of the season, do you think they change the way the enter cut corn fields to feed at dusk? The bucks should still be following the does so that's why I ask.
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Has anyone here had much luck rattling. It seems to be something that works better out in the mid west and on TV. I can't say for sure I've had much luck.
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Hopefully you learned not to shoot from the hip. That's just crazy.
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So no one else has buck fever stories... huh must be the only one here or the only one comfortable enough to tell it.
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Love reading stories of real hunts from locals like you. Whether they connect or not I can feel being there myself. Nice buck and congrats!
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Me... I miss the solitude. Knowing no one else is around and the deer will be moving, or not, in their natural state while I wait in ambush. Ahhhhhhhh! Love it! Miss it!!!
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I got one and hopefully I learned from it. About 7 - 8 years ago it was about the 3rd week of SZ. A fresh snow had fallen and it was like walking on cotton. I spent the first part of the morning on watch and about 8:30 am started to still hunt. I was sitting near the top of the hardwoods and started walking up through the hardwoods. I was carrying a semi-auto Rem shotgun with a scope.
I crossed a small ravine and came up into a old field with a few small saplings. I looked down and there was very fresh bed. I looked up and standing broadside was a huge 10 just looking at me. He could not smell me as the wind was westerly and he was south of me. We both were frozen in time staring at each other no more than 20 yards away. How'd he get there I thought without me seeing him.
I had, had my shotgun across my body as I was walking holding it with both hands. At least a minute went by, maybe 2 but it seemed like an hour. We continued to stare at each other. In desperation I tried to slowly move the shotgun into position to shoot from the hip. After all I thought it's only 20 yards and there was no way I was gonna get him in the scope at that distance. I can remember leveling out the shotgun best I could and pulled the trigger. I completely missed him.
What I learned from this and I knew it before... but have vowed when faced with this again this is what I'll do. Let him make the first move regardless of how long it takes. As he makes his move he will more than likely take 2, 3 or 4 bounds and stop to look back. That's what they tend to do when not really spooked. In that time will lift the gun and get him in my scope and then pull the trigger.
Do we ever stop learning?
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Yep... don't know how they could see at 6:22am and really know what they were shooting.
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IMO... if you are a good enough citizen and have passed the Fed background check, you should be good enough to carry w/o any restrictions. The restrictions are BS. You are either good enough or you are not!! Plain and simple. Also states should have nothing to do with this other issuing the permits perhaps but if it is a Fed Background Check than you should be good enough to carry in any state.
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The .243 IS the perfect deer gun. Low recoil, accurate, flat shooter. I'd take ANY shot with the 243 that I'd take with an <insert unnecessarily overpowered caliber here>. You really think a 243 can't fully penetrate a deer? Give me a break. You guys keep using your <insert unnecessarily overpowered caliber here> and I'll keep using my 243. I'll kill as many or more than you will.
I've seen TWO deer shot at with a 243, 55 grain VARMINT bullet. BOTH were DRT. Granted one was a head shot, but the other was a high shoulder shot. Would I recommend that bullet or those shots? Hell no, but the fact that a VARMINT bullet out of a 243 can do that tells me that a deer bulletin out of a 243 will have no issue whatsoever.
What exactly do you people think these deer are made out of? Have you not seen what an arrow does to them? It's ok to hunt them with a bow but a 243 is underpowered? What are you guys smoking?
I honestly don't mind that you're shooting them with an <insert unnecessarily overpowered caliber here>, but don't sit there and tell me that the 243 is lacking something when it comes to deer hunting. Actually, go ahead and say it all you want, I K N O W better.
Why do I bother? Clearly the marketing departments for the <insert unnecessarily overpowered caliber here> is way better than I am. They sure have you guys eating out of their hands!!
Zhe Wiz
I agree 100% with what you said. The only advantage the much bigger calibers have is a bad shot but a well placed shot from a 243 with 95-100 grains is deadly in the neck or the vitals and will penetrate the shoulder and drop the deer as well.
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Between loud construction equipment and guns I am probably a few years away from needing some help. On the bench I use plugs and muffs now
As a hearing specialist, may I suggest you get checked out sooner rather than later. An audiological test is quick, painless and will give you a baseline for the future.
You see, we hear with our brain not our ears. The tiny hair cells in the cochlea become permanently damaged from noise exposure thereby shorting out and slowly shutting down the pathway from the cochlea to the brain. That's what the "huh" is from. You may not want to hear this (No pun) but you may already be there - not a few years away.
High frequencies are generally damaged most from noise exposure. You see, the low tones are the Vowels sounds of speech (a e i o u). They give our words there sound. The highs are the Consonant sounds of speech (s t f p th k) which are the sounds of speech that help us understand the difference between similar sounding words, like "thin" and "fin" or "him" or "win" or "twin". The vowel is why they rhyme.
Most people that need help for there hearing are "NOT" deaf or even "Hard of Hearing". They hear someone speak to them but they can't catch what was said, therefore they say "huh" or "what" or "pardon", etc.
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Smart business man... cut his prospects by 50%... hmmm!
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I bought my son for his 14th birthday a Ruger M77 in .243. Killed his first buck opening day at 7:10am at 135 yards one shot at the base of the neck. Dropped it where it stood. 100 grain Winchester Super X. The other caliber I'd recommend and that no one has mentioned is the 25.06 Either of these calibers fit your request perfectly. Fast, flat shooting, low recoil and deadly accurate. The .243 probably less costly for ammo. The boy is now 18 and never asks for anything with more power and did I tell you what an amazing coyote gun it is with 58 grain Hornadys... like 4000 ft per second.
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Well you have fared much better than most and you should not feel too bad as you did what you could.
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Grouse says "Registration is not needed to protect a gun owner against liability for theft of his guns, reporting them stolen is what protects you".
Then how does one prove they ever owned the gun to begin with. Anyone can say they had a gun stolen or all their guns stolen but proving you ever owned them is another story. Unless you have the original sale from the store but what if most of your guns were purchased private.
That's why I plan to take pics of all my guns and email to my home owners insurance agent.
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Will there be a charge to regeister your guns,like there is for cars, boats, ATV's, and trailers, and will you have to re-register them every year and pay a fee?
A 1 time fee per selling transaction of a nominal fee of say $10 just for the paper trail, not annually like a car.
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Can you all come over and watch my kids,... My back is killing me from carrying the welfare system on my shoulders for the last four years..... I don't see any relief in sight of the next four years either.
You carried it before that and you will carry for the future just I did and do. The welfare system is not going away regardless of who got elected.
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Attaboy!!!!
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Sat til 11:30 today and saw nothing. Heard a deer blow at about 8am. Went back into a different stand at 1pm and kicked up 3 doe and never saw a thing until just before dark and saw 3 different doe.
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I think this is a 2 sided discussion and both are pertinent to talk about.
A) Would registering your guns one time with serial numbers with the state or fed gov't protect the gun owner if the guns were stolen or used in a crime?
Would this in turn, over time, contribute to a major decrease in killings by thugs and criminals who obtain the guns illegally?I would not be against it because I actually intend to take pics of each gun I own with a 3x5 card listing the model and serial number for my homeowners insurance in case of theft. Also for proof to police that I did indeed own those guns and have been reported stolen in the event of their use in a murder.
I also feel that each time a gun is purchased from an individual, the purchaser would pay a nominal fee, say $10 for the transfer thru a dealer. Pain in the ass... a little bit for sure. But you have to do this with handguns now any way.
I feel that if this were to be implemented that, over time, it very well Could have an effect on reducing the number of senseless killings that go on in this country every day. Like I said elsewhere, even the sound minded individual who goes wacko because his wife left him for another man or a similar situation can never be foreseen or prevented.
But if we could make a major decrease, over time, in the reckless acts of drive by shootings and house shootings, like where the 2 yo child was killed in his grammas arms when thugs shot through the front door of a house in Atlanta I'm all for it.
I'm all in favor of trying to stop the day by day senseless acts of murder on people all over this country and if a well thought out plan that included registering my guns would help... I'm all for it.
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If the state or federal gov't wanted all guns registered... would you be against it? Why or why not?
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Every gun that leaves a manufacturers plant enters the market LEGALLY, which means the first purchaser of it needs to undergo a background check. After that, it's pretty much a free for all who can buy them. That's how they get into the wrong hands.
Not that I want more red tape or costs but all legal handguns purchased either new or used, need to pass through a dealer to change ownership. If all guns went through this procedure would this help? A paper trail is possibly the only way I could see curtailing guns from getting into the wrong hands.
I had not thought of this but last November I sold a 30.06 to someone and never gave it a thought whether this guy could pass a background check and I also bought last November a 22.250 from a private owner as well. No background checks.
In spite of background checks wacko's are still there because the majority of the time you never know a wacko is a wacko til he goes wacko.
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Getting back to the OP though, I have seen some of the liberal types on this site say that Obummer isnt trying to take our guns. I say he just hasnt tried yet.
Not worried about the UN arms treaty though, it wont affect us until the Constitution is amended, and I dont see that happening.
I do not think the law abiding gun owners who have guns/handguns used for target and hunting and self protection have anything to worry about. The laws that the gov't may try to implement will be laws to make it more difficult for thugs and criminals to get there hands on them.
I would tend to think that loose laws of the past decades are primarily the reason we have hand guns floating around and being used by criminals. There will never be a perfect system that prevents wacko's from obtaining guns to go on terror killings but if better background checks were necessary to help prevent this than I am all in favor of this.
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What to do...
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Got a dilemma here... my son and I hunt a piece of property of 230 acres. About 140 acres is now open areas of cut corn. The rest is made up of a about 35-40 acres of hardwoods that were logged last Fall and left a mess. The rest is scrub apple and honeysuckle woods, a couple hedgerows and two other scrub pieces, one about 6 acres and the other is a long narrow strip about 3 acres.
The problem is this:
My son and I are stand hunters for the most part. That is - we get to our stands early and plan to wait it out. We have tried throughout the bow season to leave the wooded areas alone and leave them as sanctuaries, a place of refuge for the deer.
We like to do the same thing for gun season but come gun season, a group of at least 8 hunters and sometimes as many as 10 come in to the property. They stay opening weekend and do the same thing every day. Opening day they sit til 9 am and then begin to push these small pieces and shoot whatever comes out. The next weekend there may a few less hunters, say 5-6 but they do the same thing on Sat/Sun, the same thing on Thanksgiving and then the same thing the next Sat/Sun. They will be back this Sat/Sun and will do the same thing.
We just don't share the same way of hunting. This is really bothering me as each passing day there are less and less deer. I plan to try and hunt late afternoons mid week just to get away from them.