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I got the same email last year! It had a different story with it but same pic. FUNNY!

I am actually worried about having a deer in front of us, what he'll do or how he'll react I have kind of already prepared myself for "the spook" but oh well I guess, you are right that is the way he'll learn. I know he does a pretty good job "stalking" in the house with his toy rifle...lol He's very slow and deliberate and QUIET, so we'll see when it's crunch time.

WOW thats crazy! You wouldn't think his face would take the kind of pressure needed to break that antler off. That other antler was a pretty crazy non typical huh?

I'm sorry "here" is 5G and the first picture is not this years buck it was last years (he sent me the wrong photo, I asked him why the he was using last years tag????? Oooops wrong pic! sorry) I'll get the right pic from him today to post.

It's kicked in full force here. The bucks are on the move hot and heavy! Here are some pics of 2 buddies of mine who bagged bucks with their nose to the ground, both came in to estrus and the can HARD! One was taken last night at 5 of 5pm and the 6er was this morning about 8am.

I did think about moving to a different spot after he fell asleep. He is already asking about this coming weekend and I can't wait to go with him! This weekend will be great I can feel it, Bucks are moving heavy here now, They seemed to skipped over all the "sign" and went right to "nose to the ground" 3 buddies of mine have shot bucks in the last 2 days, said it was the first DEER they've seen all season, all 3 of them so it's turning on hot and heavy and I'm praying to God all week he can be there with me when I bag one. I don't get him up early for the first light hunt I come back to house about 10 and grab a bite and something hot and head back out. He is the greatest kid ever, I get warm and fuzzy every time I look at that pic and think about that day so there WILL be many many more to come. I think I may have enjoyed it more than he did.

Yes marketing would be a good idea, I just figure it's my job as a hunter and a concerned person to let others know around my area. I am a member of the Eagles club here and I have tried to get this program through our club, the guy that was pushing it and doing the research on where exactly to go with them has passed away and I regretfully have dropped the ball but I do feel it's a very necessary program. Many homeless people go without or with very little. I WILL be picking the ball back up for next season. I think it's great.

I envy you I still have to fill one of my tags. Good job and good luck in muzzleloader.

You are a good man,Good things will come to good people I am a believer. There is no pride in cheating.

I'm not going to get involved in the current argument but aside from the donation of meat, Our local Elks club (a social club like the Eagles , moose, woodsmen etc.) takes the hides in donation and has coats and gloves made for homeless vets. It's a great program and gives somewhere for you to dispose of the hide other than the dump or the side of the road.

oh I for surly will, I still can't stop thinking about yesterday, I had such a great time with him and can't wait to do it again this weekend!

Good luck he's a dandy!

Did you steal my camera card? I have a 5 looks almost identical to him.

Ya he's just like me, he could fall asleep standing up on one foot if he was tired enough. I would love to do the small game thing with him. I'm just not much of a small game hunter, I was always taught to kill to eat and eat what you kill. I've never eaten squirrel, thats the only reason I don't turkey hunt I do not like wild turkey, I'd love to hunt them but I don't eat them. It'd be just killing squirrels to kill squirrels, I don't really want to teach him to kill an animal for something to do.

Logging has put the kabosh on my bowhunting for this year. I wish I knew they were going to be there I would have scouted other areas to hunt. Now I'd be guessing to just throw up a stand, I wish I had a climber though! I just keep telling myself what everyone else tells me .......NEXT YEAR NEXT YEAR!

NICE....all that hard work and patience paid off!

I went out this weekend and set off a buck bomb ( first time using..Not to sure about it whether I like or not) and used the can. NOTHING. When I first touched the bomb off I did hear movement around me like I had a buck circling but never came in for further inspection and the can worked up ZERO results. Maybe it's me or maybe it's not quite time yet in my woods. Idk.

I have to share a memory with you guys I will remember for the rest of my life. I will start with describing my son, He is now 4 years old (as of 11/6), He's awesome, Everyday I come from hunting he asks if I shot a 100 pointer yet...hehehe funny! He is so impressed with hunting, shooting bow...whatever dad does he's into it and I LOVE IT! He's my best friend. Well for his birthday I promised I'd take him out hunting, I went out on state land in the early morning, when I got home he was ready! "where have you been dad? We gotta get out there before the deer go to bed!" lol he always makes me laugh. So we set out, I explain the importance of being quiet and being still, He says to me "I know dad...thats why they're always whispering on T.V" So we find a spot at the bottom of this funnel, It comes into a wet swampy kind of area but real open. There is this huge rock with an overhang, Thats where we sit right under the overhang. Next thing I know about 10 minutes after we settle in I hear SNAP......SNAP...SNAP SNAP, I look over my shoulder and..................It's my boy snapping a little twig he's picked up! Shhhhh I say you can't be doing that the deer will hear you, wink wink. OK dad sorry. We go back to watch, now I hear a scraping sound and look now he has a rock in his hand scrapping it on another rock, shhhhhh buddy you can't make noise like that, OK dad sorry. 45 minutes into our watch he tugs on my coat and says " Dad.....is hunting always this boring? Hey I have an idea dad...you wake me up when the deer come ok? And this is what he looked like after an hour in the woods.....I love this kid. Oh and needless to say the deer never came but he said he had the best day of his life, I know he was just trying to make me feel good and it worked. I'm looking forward to sharing many more days in the woods with him as he grows older.

I don't understand the whole exception in NZ and Catskills thing myself and this........"I believe the law is there so the game warden can see it from afar and not have to get out of his car to check you. That would explain why they don't need to wear them in the NZ and Catskill Park." doesn't explain anything to me but just yesterday I was hunting the NZ with a buddy and he said to me "why the hell do you have your tag on? You don't need it in NZ?" My reply.......whats the difference? What really is the big deal about wearing them? As for switching it to whatever be it backpack or climber I do not. It's on my coat, when I get out of the tree and put my pack on I do not switch it to my pack. The law says it has to be visibly displayed on the middle of your back while hunting. If a game warden stopped me and busted my marbles over not having it on my pack or climber or whatever I'd have to fight that one, I mean come on...It's on my outer most layer of CLOTHING. I actually pin it high enough on my coat that when I do have my pack on it can be seen I at least have it. NO WAY am I spending the time to take it off my coat and put it on my pack then take it off my pack and put it back on my coat, It's there on my jacket and I'm legal as far as I'm concerned.

Great buck.....thats one to be proud of for sure! Hey just a question do those blood lights really work? Are they worth the money?

Well when I got home that night I checked around the statue for anything else laying around, I found the spot where it had been hit by the xbow bolt. Hit it good if it were real he'd be piled up where he stood, It was a great shot! Took a pretty good chip out of the ol boy. Like I said in the original post if that bolt had gone over his back it would have flown right through my neighbors living room window! It wouldn't be out of the question for a deer to be standing in my front yard, Yes I do live in a small town and the street I live on is right in the village but there is also a mountain that people do hunt at the end of my street, so seeing on in my yard wouldn't be out of the question, I just can't believe there are people that careless (forget about the legal part) I mean it was just as easy to have killed someone as it was to "kill" that statue. I am never amazed by some of these backwoods idiots riding around with a 12 pack and a weapon looking to shoot deer at night, It takes all kinds to make this world go 'round.

DMP's for many hunters (gun hunters) may represent an insurance policy for a successful season. Its frustrating to see many permits simply not filled by hunters who possess such permits and who only hunt opening day. While many permits are transferred many are simply wasted. Areas of State Land upstate and close to home which I hunt, the DMP's issued have remained consistent, however second chance permits are no longer available and many applicants are denied. From a deer management point of view this is a serious problem to tackle. Due to hunter overcrowding on State Lands the opportunity to kill a doe on a permit is difficult; for the majority of the deer are pushed into areas where hunting is not allowed or into areas where hunters will not attempt to hunt. As the season progresses, hunter participation decreases and opportunities increase to kill a deer. However one can appreciate the frustration of a such a hunter who does not have a DMP (was denied) or who was unable to have a permit transferred to him/her. Perhaps, the DEC should consider implementing a system whereby unused permits can be turned in by hunters who have quit for the season enabling those hunters who want to shoot a doe given the opportunity to do so. I am a deer hunter, I am always looking to bag a buck of course I think thats every hunters objective when we take to the field. I however have only been able to take 2 bucks in my entire hunting career. I have always filled my anterless tag (bow tag, muzzleloader tag) and for me that was all I set out to do (i need ice fishing meat for those long cold days on the ice) but I have eaten a lot of buck tag sandwiches (not to tasty). BUT to be fair the last 3 years I have really gotten serious about hunting as I have gotten older. In years past I just went out (usually with a group of friends) and pushed off mountains, or go in before light and out by 9:30/10 A.M. I had no strategy at all, I'd walk till I found some sign and sat down waiting for a deer to walk by. Like I said these last 3 years I have invested in cameras, started doing some research, scout my lands, I am eager to learn everything and anything I can about the all elusive whitetail I pursue which is the main reason I am here on this site. I don't feel like I have a whole lot to offer but I do a lot of reading and gathering of different ideas you gentlemen post, and I truly believe this site has shed a ton of light on my mistakes and undeveloped techniques. For that I am thankful for sites like this where real "hunters" meet in a common place and share ideas and experience, trials and errors etc. not just sitting at my local coffee shop listening to people share their BIG BUCK stories. My father tried to teach me as much as he could but he was a "flatlander" from Florida who never hunted so his experience by the time it was my turn to go with him was very limited so when I started it was me and my weapon heading into the woods uneducated and very "green". So I say I'm self taught. Now not to highjack the thread but I know a guy in Vermont who was bragging the other day about the DMP's he recieved this season. He uses his brothers address in syracuse to get a resident license but only hunts 3 weeks out of the season in NY. He says he got 3 DMP's this year! I have been rejected once again this season for the 4th year in a row! Just kind of ruffled my feathers knowing I got denied and this guy, who is NOT a resident, and will not fill the tags got 3 and they will go to waste. I asked him "if he doesn't think he'll fill em will he transfer them to at least to his brother?" His response....."F him he wouldn't for me, I'd rather throw them away!" Now isn't that nice!

That was my thoughts on it. After hearing the ideas posted here I got to thinking about that baseball bat and I wondered why then is the WHOLE antler darker, The buck would only be rubbing a certain portion of the antler most of the time I mean yes it all probably comes in contact but there would be one certain part of the antler that would be darker than the rest and other parts that are virtually untouched, I mean they can't possibly rub every square inch of a rack, think about the underside of the tines and in the crotches.

Things are just starting to kick up here, I personally haven't seen anything but everyone I talk to have been having luck with the bleat and estrus, last couple weeks were the opposite, bucks had no interest. I think this cold snap has stocked things up a bit. This weekend may be a good one for me as I am putting in a weekender at camp in the ADK's

I'm with WNY get the wally world brand, there is very little if any difference in the product but BIG difference in price.