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Not a trout spot, but some decent shore fishing at the park on Cedar St. in Batavia. There's a few rock quarry ponds adjacent to it across the railroad tracks that have great fishing in them, but they recent closed them off to trespassing (they were always off limits, but it was commonly overlooked from the discussion I had with DEC, to the point he made it clear he wouldn't be checking it out). Some good bass in the park pond, and I've seen a pike or two. I've personally caught plenty of 2-3lbers and pulled a 5lber out of there once. Some trout creeks and streams about 20-25 minutes east of Batavia in Caledonia. Easy drive.

I prefer being able to buy moderate size single seeds to allow the consumer to blend as needed, so they can either strip plant or use the proper nurse crops, etc.

Here's some good starting points. I fished Maxwell on opening day 3-4 years ago and this hardcore guy pulled a beast out about 20 yards down from me. He left and I went over to inspect the area and the pool was a textbook location. Did some wading and looked for similar set ups and it worked well. Maybe I'll take you up on the bass fishing this year. My fishing days afield have shrunk the more I bowhunt and that is a shame. My wife is from Newark and her family lives off of the canal. Here's a raw article I wrote for NY Outdoor News about 5 years ago. Much of it applies today. Wayne County’s Lake Ontario Tributaries There are some pretty big – think famous- names when it comes to Lake Ontario’s best fishing tributaries. Names such as Oak Orchard, Oswego, Salmon, and Genesee quickly come to mind; however, not one of them resides in Wayne County. Despite the lack of a big name draw, Wayne County’s tributaries produce serious fall salmon and trout angling action that will rival any in the state without the elbow-to-elbow crowds. If there’s anyone who has a stranglehold on Wayne County fishing, it’s Chris Kenyon, who serves as the recreation coordinator for the Wayne County Tourism board. Kenyon is also the director for the Wayne County leg of the Lake Ontario Pro-Am tournament. “Wayne County is certainly known for quality fishing, but when people think about fall runs and winter tributary action, the big press names seem to get most of the attention,” Kenyon said. “The truth is that there’s some big time fishing available on the county’s creeks and rivers.” MAXWELL CREEK At the top of the list is Maxwell Creek. Sure, its name may not cause a Pavlonian response at its mere mention; however, it can produce as well as, and in many cases, better than, the more well-known tributaries. The annual fall runs begin in September when king and coho salmon begin staging at the mouth of the creek and the quality of fishing gradually increases. The salmon run tends to peak in early-to-mid October. At that point, brown trout move in chasing salmon eggs. One of the conveniences of fishing Maxwell is its plentiful access. There is a public parking area on Lake Road in the Town of Sodus right next to the creek. The DEC owns portions of the eastern bank leaving plenty of opportunity to explore without the fear of encroaching on another angler. Maxwell does attract more fishing pressure than other creeks in Wayne County, especially when the brown trout action heats up and later when the steelhead frenzy peaks in January and February. Still, the total angler numbers are no comparison to other big name tributaries across Lake Ontario’s shorelines. The reduced pressure and high fishing quality usually results in a great day on the water. Evidence of Maxwell’s impressive catch rates can be found in the DEC’s annual Lake Ontario report. The highest catch rates are for steelhead, likely due to the annual stocking performed by the DEC. “Overall, the bigger volume flow of Maxwell means that it can host larger runs,” Kenyon said. “There’s just plenty of fish to be caught by anglers at the peak of the season.” BEAR CREEK Bear Creek is another popular tributary that grows in favor with anglers – once they encounter it. The reason is likely due to its wide spectrum of fishing opportunities and access. Bear Creek gets its fair share of salmon, steelhead, and brown trout action, but it’s also a good place to land sizeable pike, smallmouth bass, and other warm water game species. Public access is available right at the mouth of the creek with a boat launch located in the Town of Ontario. Because of the access, many boaters choosing the creek as a starting point quickly realize that they are smack in the middle of prime fall fishing territory. “Most people find out that there’s good fishing on Bear Creek through a first-hand experience when launching their boat, usually in the late summer months for bass or other fish and sometimes into the first runs,” Kenyon said. “When they see that it’s a viable option for catching big salmon and trout, they return later and they’re usually surprised.” Kenyon suggests checking out the first half-mile stretch at the mouth of Bear Creek as the staging begins. “Any rocky bottoms in this area are prime locations for browns,” he said. SALMON CREEK Not to be confused with the mighty Salmon River, public access is admittedly the biggest challenge to fishing Salmon Creek – because there is no public access. The fishable sections of the creek are ringed by private property. Although that might seem like a deal-breaker, it’s really not. “Knocking on a door or two can lead to access to the creek,” Kenyon said. “Most sportsmen are familiar with asking for permission from landowners to hunt, so it’s not that difficult. And, when you do get on Salmon Creek, you’ll see that it’s worth it.” Another option is to cover the mouth of Salmon Creek by launching at a private marina in the Town of Pultneyville. “The salmon fishing in the Pultneyville harbor can be pretty good in September, but when the fish begin moving into Salmon Creek, the increased concentration means that there are going to be some big fish available for the catching,” Kenyon said. The fall runs here mimic those of Maxwell Creek, although on a smaller scale because of the lesser outflow and because there are no traditional stockings. However, the fishing pressure on Salmon Creek is minimal at best, leaving plenty of big fish for those who make the effort. LANDING THE FISH Truthfully, there’s no big secret to catching fish in good numbers on Wayne County’s tributaries. That’s because the traditional fan favorite – egg sacs – have proven to be the top performer over the years. “Most anglers use egg sacs because it works, is simple to rig, and easy to fish,” said Kenyon. Bouncing the bottom produces the best results. Small jigs and spoons, such as a Little Cleo, are popular alternatives that can bring in a few fish and the occasional lunker. Maxwell, Bear, and Salmon all have the ability to produce salmon up to the 20-to-25 pound range and upper-end browns ranging from 8-to-14 pounds. Steelhead sizes vary, although the biggest will likely be found in Maxwell Creek. “The best part about fishing the tributaries in Wayne County is that you get the same quality of fishing as you would on the bigger name waters without the large crowds, so you’re really getting an authentic fishing experience,” Kenyon said. “You can drive the Great Lakes Seaway Trail in the fall and if you cross a creek with manageable water, you can stop and toss a line with some expectations because chances are good that you’re going to find fish. There are just so many choices, even beyond Maxwell, Bear, and Salmon.”

Spot Hogg Wise Guy with the post...not super expensive, but not cheap. It'll last a long time and for a hunting focused release, it'll adjust to fit your preferences. Releases are the one area I think people undervalue and try to save on. You can certainly get by, but this is a "buy once and be done with it" purchase for many years. If you search hard enough, you should be able to find good arrows for about $60 a half dozen. Beman ICS hunters are a good value for the cost. Find a model that has been around a while if you are not buying alot in one order. Arrow companies have realized their sales go up if they change models every 2-3 years, and adjust the specs ever so slightly. Now when I buy arrows, I usually buy 3 dz. at a minimum to ensure I don't have to redial my bow in solely because of a lack of the arrows I shot before. BHs in NY have cutting diameter requirements, and must be not be barbed. Most fixed or replacement blade BH on the market are fine. When you get into mechanicals, look a little more closely. But, if you are on a budget, look at slick tricks standards or magnums, and be done with it. Simple, effective, legal, and not a ton of complaints. Mechanicals...I am a big fan of Grim Reaper 1 3/8" but again, you can pick up some Slick Tricks for a good price and not have to worry about your BH.

Improved and truballs or Improved and lightfields...killed a few deer at 75 yards with the Lightfields before moving to the Truballs to keep costs down and because I moved to an H & R, but I've shot a couple does at 50-55 yards with them and a ton up close with them.

Wisconsin being on that list completely makes the entire article worthless.

The power of Facebook is being unleashed, lol. It is being shared alot on FB. I belong to a group of people who run sporting pages and asked them to share my page's post linking to the petition. It should result in a good amount of exposure. Some of the pages that are sharing have 50k followers.

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Cool read. I would love to get the flexibility someday to do something like this but i have a hard enough time carving out vacation time in the fall for deer.

I think you are onto it. The degree of challenge is never really a topic that enters my mind. Some people view the weapon type as more than it is for others. I look at a bow or a gun as a tool. Whatever that tool is, I have to learn how to use it correctly, so the "challenge" aspect of it never really enters my thinking. It is a means to an end. I really enjoy bowhunting, I really enjoy shooting my bow. There is nothing like that 15-30 minutes where I step into the backyard on a nice summer day and just shoot a few arrows after work. Nothing beats that first arrow meeting its mark. BUT, if I didn't hunt, I likely would not shoot a bow regularly, and I probably wouldn't own one. Guns, I might own one or two because I feel like less of an American without them, but I certainly wouldn't have the kind of numbers I have now.

This post is exaclty what i was talking about. "who do you think you are...."Diatribe. You keep trying to push some sort of heirarchy or social order on a hunter based on a perceived challenge. That is hogwash. I adapt to whatever challenge I have to overcome based on a variety of factors and do not worry about any hierarchy or perception or social standing. If I pick up a stick bow, I do not once think about "woof, this is going to be harder than my cammed bow, better go make sure everyone knows I am in it for more of the challenge or I better get more respect because what I do is harder." I simply get to shooting.

I will say i value how a hunter approaches each challenge and if that hunter can meet the goals they set for themselves. My buddy is set on hunting traditional for first time, if he gets a doe, i would be ecstatic. Even if he went home empty, i know he learned.

A nod of respect is a completely different topic. I give respect because that person accepts the challenge, not because one is perceived as harder...there is no social order in my book. That trad bowhunter puts on his pants the same way. Time is irrelevant to me - because time is not apples to apples for each person. Me trying to compare hunting traditional with me hunting with a cam bow is different and one doesn't rank above or below the other. I simply adapt to the challenge or operating environment.

If I am hunting at 70 - outside of my family, career, and friendships, it will rank as an ultimate accomplishment for me in my life. Bless you.

I started out traditional. I wasn't allowed down from the treestand in the yard the first day I ever touched a bow until I hit 3 of 5 arrows into a 2 liter soda bottle filled w/water at 10 yds. That stupid quiver on a string went up and down that ladder to refill more times than I care to admit. I didn't even handle a bow with a cam on it until after my second season well after learning how to shoot consistently trad. I am aware of the challenge that comes with it. It still doesn't change my mind. Lots of people walked barefoot uphill in the snow each day to school. Deer back then were rare - deer now are relatively speaking, plentiful. And it's still not easy. Going off on an old man "in the old days" diatribe about technology might feel good, but really at the end of the day, I don't really look at someone's harvest and go "that's not as big of an accomplishment as Doc's yearling that he shot in his loin cloth after whittling his arrow, knapping his stone broadhead, chewing his sinew string into a usable form, and crafting an osage bow by basic hand implement." There is alot to learn about history and from the tales of others, including the wisdom, no doubt. Eventually though, people grow wary of the constant "in my day reminders," once there is not as much to learn. Technology is here, here to stay, always has been, and always will be. You (in general, not you Doc) can complain about it, or try to say one method is higher than the other, but at the end of the day, it really doesn't freaking matter.

With all of the cams, wheel bows, laser guided jesus arrows, and more, killing big mature bucks is still a challenge. Killing any deer remains a challenge. Our success rates, if pervasive that this technology shrunk the gap on challenge, would show for it. At the end of the day it is the indian and not the bow, and those indians are not getting much smarter based on the success rate.

Scorpyd business model sucks. They just crushed their largest retailer and ceased business with him. They are trying to go direct or something. That and I cannot imagine paying $1500 for one...or a bow. Heck I'd need to see one sweet rifle to want to buy at that price.

Crummy. If we have to find a lining, maybe it is the fact they went after the deer to recover it.

Mike, archery (vertical) is 150 ft right now.

Melanistic deer a pretty neat to look at in pics. Probably really cool in person. I have the luxury of seeing black squirrels while hunting one spot and they continue to evade me when on the rare occasion I seek them out. It seems every time I am in deer mode, they show up and I won't send a BH at them.

Sizold!

Pics added.

I do not have the case that comes with it. I lost the case after setting it on my truck's roof and driving off down the road, forgetting about it, and never found it. The binos were not in the case, however, ha. They have for the 99% of the time been sitting on my coffee table to use to look at deer outside my living room and have at most 3 days afield. I upgraded to 10x diamondbacks, so I have no real need for these. Will sell for $90 tyd. These come with a lifetime warranty and short of theft or intentional abuse...the warranty is spectacular. This is a good deal.

Browning and Scoutguard sold.

Wish you guys would reconsider, I think the amount of money you'd get from sportsmen would advance the cause greatly. I understand it comes with added workloads, reporting, etc. I just believe the opportunity outweighs the risk/operational components. People do not have manyu opportunities to expand hunting in this state and this is one of the few. It could easily get financial traction to even potentiall hire a lobbyist, much more advertising, etc.