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That's opening a whole 'nother can of worms. Getting into FOC, etc. Chances are, as long as he is not shooting one of the new ultra-light hunting arrows, his speed/KE will do with most common arrow/non mech heads out there. ST is extremely popular out west for elk...others that I can think of are Wac Em, Strikers, and Magnus. I do know quite a few people who go out west with Grim Reaper mechs where legal. I use them on deer here...but if I were elk hunting, my personal rig would push me back to ST. I still use ST out of blinds.

I have a Summit Open Shot stand or similar to it (it's a summit...I just forget the name). It is a comfy stand for what it is, but Summits are so freaking loud and noisy. Even the new ones seem so despite the advancements. I have a LW Sit and Climb Wide and I recently bought the Hand Climber top. You can get a strap for the Hand Climber to make it easier to climb with and it works pretty well. I may end up selling my S/C Wide top and us just the hand climber for extremely far in hunts or for hit and run hunts for a couple hours. If it's an all day affair, the Summit will be used. I didn't find the S/C all that comfy and an all-dayer would be dreadful.

Closing costs are a loose estimation until the numbers are done and signed...My closing costs turned out to be much less than estimated at the point the contract was accepted.

Slick Trick 100% I'd suggest the standard for Elk. Longer shots are much more realistic out west and they will serve you well and you will get the penetration you need. I have historically shot ST and Striker and Striker type heads (Bass Pro Blackouts). ST has consistently out-penetrated Strikers in any forum...block, 3d targets, blob-like targets, and in my observations, animals. The larger cut Magnums or other ST variants are nice, but the standard is a dream for out west.

Should be a good time...For whatever reason, opening day for me seems to be pretty crummy. Last time I was able to get out on opening day, we were on Conesus and nobody was catching fish except for one boat that simply had a good spot and camped out there all day. Everyone else was failing, big time. It was also crowded...so probably going to try some smaller water and shore fish it rather than a boat.

Congrats. HFL is a good school...they do spend some money, that is for sure.

They are really trying to implement the OCt 1 openiner and youth season for 2012...we will see if the legislators get it done in time.

D&DH is sensationalizing this issue, too, which at first seems like a good thing, but really, it's rather shoddy business practice. They sensationalize because they are getting the attention (press/$$$) from it. I really think the private orgs are dropping the ball on this one by not letting it be panel scored. To me, D&DH is acting like nothing more than an ambulance chaser to ride a topic that generates their bottom line. Almost tabloidish. That mag used to be GREAT. It's mediocre now, but still leading the pack for scientific/natural info on deer/hunting to the casual masses.

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Inspection is everything, but it's not iron-clad. Had my home inspected and that person missed so much that is was laughable. Worst part was that in all of my effort, nothing was ever done about it or recouped. The other hard part is closing....prequal is not as easy today, but it's still easier than closing. You'll really enjoy the first time something catastrophic (home emergency-wise) happens. Closed on my house December 9 that year....Decemeber 10...water heater crapped out - was working PERFECT on the 9th. What can you do? Just laugh and cough it up.

I certainly won't be hanging up my Elites but they are a good tool. If I could ever really see myself using one, it'd be on the ground in a blind situation. I don't particularly enjoy bowhunting from a blind for some reason, but the crossbow seems more comfortable without the need to draw in the blind.

Yep. Much easier.

Got that thing dialed in last weekend. I'm not the hugest proponent on opening xbow into early archery but if it gets my FIL into the sport then I can deal with it. I cant believe how accurate those things are...Got the red dot sighted in within 5 shots and by shot 20, we were shooting 55 yards away up on his second floor deck and darn near touching fletchings. He wants to come to Ohio with me now for a rut bow trip...

With loose, you can easily experiement with it. As Bubba mentioned, sometimes a step back helps, I'd use 90 as a starting point and increment up as needed. Sometimes that is the real fun of shooting a MZ. I did well with 240 gr. XTPs out of my CVA Wolf and 777 pellets, but after switching that gun over to Harvestors...I am NOT going back.

Dandy faintail...swayback....gonna be a nice one.

Oct 1 opener in SZ means a much better chance at catching a buck on a pattern. I'll more than likely use that extra time to take a stab at a few buck beds I have found and try to hunt them in the afternoons only during that time or in the a.m. when a storm or shift causes them to start their nightly routine later than normal the prior night. I really dislike the timing of the youth hunt, but it is what it is at this point. I'm planning on hammering a buck before that.

I think most of the supplies as many see it are used illegally here in NY. I do see the legality of the farm use and for out of state use. I admit that I buy lick material from Gander for use in Ohio (legal there). It's acutally much more expensive in the Ohio area I hunt. The Black Magic is $9.99 or $7.99 when on sale here...and in Ohio I see it for $13.99 most places, which are mom n pop stores that don't have the most consistent stocking practices (I've went to them before only to see the shelf empty...which does me no good). It does amaze me at the general lack of concern people have about that stuff when it is illegal to use on deer inhabited lands here. People have carts full of that stuff and they talk as if nobody cares. Of course, I don't know their particular situation (hunting in NY vs. elsewhere), but I see it all the time.

The building in question is pretty close to where I work. It's a shame to see that happen as the owner has been pretty successful with a prior food business before Sticky Lips and he seems like a good guy. I know someone who works at the new one and they love it there. I know the big deal really is the land issue - there have been significant recent tax issues popping up with that authority because they have been EXTREMELY profitable in recent years based on some of the tax/cost breaks. The same group owns a chunk of very valuable land on Scottsville Rd. that is being developed. Sad to see...I used to see a few bowhunters on it each year when driving by. I think this owner's issue has less to do with him and more to do with the Authority. Several agencies want to revamp the authority's breaks and they don't have much ground to stand on legally so they are going about it in different avenues. I believe Palmers has had a similar issue as sticky lips but it has been under wraps and settled.

FYI, most WGI cams are unable to be updated via firmware. I think that is changing for this year's models or the upcming model year, but up to then, no way to update firmware. I'd also suggest you just ask WGI to replace if within warranty parameters. Getting a good WGI cam is a game of chance....just keep swapping them out til you do.

Sorry for your loss. Sounds like a good guy to have around camp and the family.

Complete whiteout? Thinking possible stuck IR or cam defect. Generally speaking most manufacturers will tell you to orient so it is not getting sunlight...BUT...the real truth is if you are getting actual whiteouts, then the cam is defective sans a battery issue or stuck IR filter. Sounds kind of impractical, but if the batteries are good then give the cam a good whack with your hand (hold in one and smack it on the side with the other). It may free up the IR filter. If it does not, then it is time to send in for a replacement or pitch it.

Same, but BH209 is progressive burning. So, the difference in my opinion would be larger if you compared three 50 gr pellets vs. the eq. in BH209 than two 50 gr. pellets vs. eq. in BH209.

BH209 is awesome. I shot 5 shots without cleaning just to see HOW bad it was loading and fouling. Very impressive.

Taken from NWTF: One of the most common color variations is the "smoky gray" color phase. Turkeys with this color appear white from a distance. Upon closer examination, however, it is obvious that these birds' appearance is due to a loss of brown or bronze pigments while the black areas of the feathers remain. Every year, the NWTF receives reports of turkeys in a smoky gray color phase, and many turkey hunters have seen at least one during their time in their field. This recessive trait seems to occur more frequently among hens, but is still occasionally seen in gobblers. While this trait is probably detrimental to survival--it makes the turkey more visible--some smoky gray wild turkeys may survive for several years. One smoky gray hen in Georgia was observed with a normal brood of poults each spring for five years. Melanistic (black) and erythritic (red) color variations also are reported each year, but are not as common as the smoky gray phase. Many of these turkeys are striking in appearance and stand out visibly when seen among flocks of normal looking wild turkeys. The least common color variation is albinism, or the total lack of color pigments. True albinos are seldom found among wild turkeys. Most hunters see color variations for the first time and think that the condition is a result of crossbreeding with a domestic turkey. Many wildlife biologists used to think the same thing. But, these differences occur regularly in flocks that have no contact with domestic turkeys.

Be careful with the brake line. Replacing one often leads to two. I had an Explorer that happened to...one line was bad, replaced that, and popped another...increased pressure.