wolc123

Makes a lot of sense west of the Mississippi, not so much to the east.

All I am saying is that many folks would appreciate tenderloins a lot more if they were not marinated in piss and gut juice, and near the max rigor-mortis stage when consumed. Several on this thread have expressed their distaste for tenderloins. I am just tossing out a couple easy tricks to take care of that issue.

I am in from region 9 (team 4). I hope at least one of my entries will be from region 6. Those are worth more than double of what region 9 deer are to me, even if they are not for this contest. They probably should count double, along with region 7, to make it a bit more fair for those who do all their hunting up there. Otherwise, I like the point structure and the 3 deer rule. I am hoping for 3 this year, which would be just about right, as far as the meat goes. Hopefully, all 3 will be bucks (my wife's favorite will be the one without legal points).

Same here. The only issue I have with them is that they are not real tall, in case you need to cross deep standing water. When it comes to cold, the standard black ones have worked for me on even the coldest days for all day sits. The white ones are good for even colder conditions but weigh more and are bulkier. The blacks are just right for me for deer hunting. Anything much heavier would not be as good for stillhunting, which I like to do between hot-spots, up in the Adirondacks. When I get to such spots, in freezing conditions, those Mickey mouse boots have always kept my feet warm for as long as I cared to sit there in my tree-hammock chair. They also seem pretty durable. I have 6 seasons on my current pair and they are showing no signs of wear. I also use them for ice-fishing, where it is usually colder than hunting season. No issues with cold feet there either.

Are you for full inclusion ?

Not a marinade, just a quick rinse to remove any traces of the bad tasting liquids.

Three things can make tenderloins not so hot: 1) Rigor-mortis 2) Gut juice 3) Piss. Leaving them in the fridge a week or so before eating takes care of the rigor-mortis. I always rinse them off good, with blood from forward of the diaphram, to take care of the piss and gut juice. Those two steps always make them the best tasting, easiest chewing part of the deer.

Prayers sent for your son's speedy recovery.

Your regular buck tag is good for doe in the late ML season.

My wife would be thrilled if that happens. Last year was my off year for one of those, so this should be an on year, if my going on 40 year pattern holds.

In near-laborotory conditions (like my insulated garage) it is not too difficult to recover most off the useable meat. It seems like that would be much tougher in field conditions, without LED lighting, climate control, work benches, a hoist, or sharpening equipment. After strikes one and two (no liver or heart), less usable meat makes the out for gutless in NY state. CO is another story however. My back still aches from dragging a mule deer carcass 5 miles thru the Rockies when I was in my 30's.

It has been a while since I caught any coons in the 6 traps that I have around this plot. I moved the traps over to the fieldcorn, after I Bush-hogged the sweetcorn. I think I learned why yesterday, while I was checking the traps. Grave-robbing coyotes had swiped two of the coon carcasses that I had burried 2 ft deep. Burying them seemed easier than burning them, but I may give burning a try if I catch any more.

September 1 - 20, I get the ground worked up good, then broadcast wheat at about 75 pounds per acre, then cultipack. After cultipacking, I broadcast tall ladino (white) clover at 7 pounds per acre, then cultipack again, 90 degrees from the first direction. If I can score some free leftover soybeans, I add those to the mix, up to 50 pounds per acre, prior to the first cultipack. When those start to sprout, they will draw deer away from white oak acorns like nothing else will. One of the many benfits of climate change, is late frosts, which has let those late planted soybeans last well into bow season in WNY.

It sounds like you ate those right near the peak time for rigor-mortis. Any red meat goes thru that. The older the deer, the longer it takes the meat to go thru that stage. Was that an older deer ? 6 month deer are not affected much by rm. I learned last season, that the livers from mature (3.5 yrs old) are very tender after a week in the fridge, but tougher than hell, the evening of the kill. It bothers me a bit when I think of how many of those I left I'm gut-piles thru the years. Liver and heart recovery seems like it would be difficult without gutting the deer and that is reason enough for me to never consider skipping that step.

Try googling it. That is what I did minutes ago to verify my recollection.

How so ? If you look up the PA chart, you will find that 35 in (clear on my photo) equals 99 pounds field dressed. Also, WNY deer have always weighed more than that chart predicts when checked on a scale, so 100 pounds seems conservative for that one.

I grow them big. Lots of clover and wheat went into that one.

I think most folks are smart enough to realize that, which explains why Biden's lead in the polls has fallen since he made that pick. Ms Harris as VP is the best thing to happen to Trump yet, when it comes to his chances of re-election.

The 4410 is a little smaller and lighter at 2900 pounds without the loader (the 4120 wieghs 3700 pounds without the loader). The thing I liked most about the 4120 was the JD Power-Tech American-made engine. I think that JD has stopped making their own engines, for smaller tractors since Tier-4, and now uses the far-eastern Yanmars in them. You probably need to go up to 75 hp or so to get a Power-Tech American-made engine in a JD tractor today, unlike the Tier-3 days, when I got one at 43 hp. 75 hp would be a little too big for my food-plotting.

Easy now boys, somebody got banned over making fun of that fawn. The last buck fawn I killed field dressed at nearly 100 pounds per the PA chest girth chart.

I am more of an "if it aint broke dont fix it" kind of guy, but to each his own.

I used new ones, until last season, when I tried sharpening one for the first time (a mechanical). Maybe it is just a coincidence, but the (5) previous bucks, that I killed with those mechanicals, expired less than 40 yards from where they took the arrows (or crossbow bolts for the last few). I took the best parts from my "used" ones last season, and sharpened the dinged-up blades with a small soft arkansas stone. The buck that took that one made it over a hundred yards before expiring, center-punched thru both lungs. I am going to go with new ones from now on. I was thankful to go 6 for 6 on bucks with those old mechanicals, including one used (and destroyed) checking my zero, and parts of different ones used twice on last year's buck. My advise would be stick with new and don't worry about sharpening.

It is a 4120 that I bought new in 2005. I looked at Kubota, NH and JD back then. The JD was tied with the NH for lowest price (same hp, similar feature Kubota was a bit more). The main reason I went with the JD was because it was the only one that was American-made, including the engine, (NH and Kubota engines were from the far-east). It has held up good for 15 years. I did need to change out the starter at around 5 years, but the aftermarket one that I found on-line (Power-strike) was less than $ 200 and has lasted much longer than the OEM Bosch. It is also on it's second battery, but that is it for parts, aside from oil filters every 100 hours. It is getting close to 950 hours now, when it will be due for another oil change. I had up to (5) tractors at a time, which is why it has so few hours. Now, I am down to just that JD, and the old, 1951 Ford 8n, which was my first tractor. I paid the widow of the original owner $ 1200 for that one, back in 1989, and it only had 1200 hours on it. All her husband used it for was working a half acre garden each year. It had a burned out valve (the OEM ones can't handle unleaded gas) when I got it. I fixed that one, got a year or two out of it, then burned out a few more when I used it to dig a 1/4 acre pond. I used that lead substitute crap but it did not help. I got a buddy to do a full valve job then, and it did not give me any more trouble until last year, when it needed a distributer, and a new 6 volt battery. Now it has 2200 hours on it. I like it for food plots. It will still out work any $ 10,000 side-by side.

It is actually kind of boring. I much prefer hunting in the mountains, and I am very thankful that my in laws chose to move up there when they retired. They almost went to PA. An Adirondack spike buck or doe is worth more to me than a flatland WNY 8-point. The scenery and solitude up there make all the difference. Having that Adirondack option has caused me to be more fussy with my buck tags. So far, that has panned out ok. Had they moved to PA instead, that would not be an issue, but it is nice not needing to purchase an expensive, non-resident licence. I am hoping to spend the whole early ML season, a day or two of cross-bow, and Thanksgiving weekend up there this year.