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What about the poor defenseless vegetables? Who is looking out for them? They have no chance to get away and often are struck down for consumption before they reach maturity. Anyone interested in forming a vegetable rights group?

1.) Plant 3-4 acres of corn at home, if the fields dry out enough to get it in before the end of June. Right now, much of the ground is submerged, so it will be a long time before I can start plowing. 2.) Hang a new stand over at my folks place. It has been a few years since I killed a deer over there but I think I located the right spot. 3.) Lots of practice with my daughter's Red-Ryder, set up with a "big loop", and full-sized stock to match my new Marlin 336 BL 30/30. That 30/30 will be my rainy/snowy weather still-hunting gun up in the Adirondacks this fall. I would love to break it in on a nice buck up there this year. 4.) Enough range time at home with the deer guns to get them all hitting the right spot. I skimped on that a bit last year with my rifled slug gun. That ended up costing me a few chops and an extra slug (finishing shot) on a big doe last season when my first shot hit about 6" high.

I never smoked while hunting but the first antlered buck that I killed came in from downwind and stuck his nose right in the brown spot in the snow under my stand where I had been spitting my tobacco (wintergreen Hawken).

Lets try some science: If I had taken a DNA sample from an embryo in the doe that I killed last SZ opening day, a week or two after she was bred, would the sample match her or the buck that got her pregnant? I believe science would show that it would match neither, proving that "NEW" life does indeed "begin at conception". I assume that last quoted statement was what you were referring to when you said that I brought religion onto this thread. If that is true, then you really can use science to prove religion. That also gets us back on topic. Why do folks get down on people for killing little bucks, but don't mind killing pregnant does that are often carrying two? If you can't answer that one, maybe Four Seasons will take a shot at it.

"Simple" is a pretty good descriptor, but "child-like" might better describe the complete faith that I have now. Any doubts have been erased by all of the proof that He has, and continues to pile up. Do you really think I could have perfectly placed a bullet up a buck's poop shoot without any help? You and your Butt-out suggestion helped me prove that shot was indeed perfect (clean gut-job and very little meat destroyed). On rifle team in high school, I did ok but never placed first in a match. My biggest buck last season came on the only day I took my Bible in the stand. I could list many more examples of where He helped me fill the freezer both afield or afloat. It is easier to use math and science to prove God made earth than to prove he did not. Look up in the sky on a clear night. What is beyond those stars? Nothing, or Everything ? You may not believe now, but there will always be hope for you.

Probably closer to 6-1/2. He finished that work and rested on the seventh day.

Thanks for bringing Him up again. You just can't have too much of Jesus on a hunting website. I can't think of many other pastimes (maybe fishing) that position someone better to absorb His grace. The crock-pot, venison stroganoff that we just had for dinner was awesome. I ate so much, I don't think there would be room for the antifreeze. I hope you have a great dinner. Stay away from the green juice. I had a Genny light with dinner

Profanity in print is a pretty good indicator that things are not going so well. Repent

Prayers sent

I always get 15-15-15 from Rineharts on Carmen rd in Middleport. They manufacture fertilizer on-site, including low-nitrogen mixes for clover. They also have very good prices on seed.

I have about 3/4 of a box left over from when I was testing various rounds for Elk hunting about 15 years ago. If you were a little closer, I would gladly trade them for 150 grain pointed core-lokts.

Did you have the loader on it when you got stuck? If so, next time try using that to push or pull yourself out. That works about 95% of the time. You can probably look it up on youtube to see how it is done. My neighbors kid fell into that other 5% last Sunday, when he buried their brand-new, 30ish hp Kubota, with a loader on front and a backhoe on back, up to its axles. I yanked him out with my larger John Deere. It sounds like you learned that those R4 tires are not too hot in the mud. After one revolution, they basically plug up and become slicks. Their advantages are slightly less lawn damage, and slightly better puncture resistance than R1 (Ag) tires. They will handicap you a little for foodplotting due to poor traction. A 4wd tractor with R4 tires will deliver about the same traction force, on soft ground, as an equal weight 2wd tractor with R1 tires. Maybe you got the wrong tires but at least you got the right color. 1

It sounds like you may be having a bad day Chef. I will say a prayer that things get better for you. I definitely owe you one. Thanks for helping to convince me to get a Butt-out-2 last season. My own faith in God was ratcheted up a bit because of that and because of you. It worked very well 3 out of 5 times, with the only failures on a BB and his momma. I am very thankful that I stuck with it after that. Later on, it worked perfectly on that infamous "Texas heart shot" Adirondack 6-point, proving to me once again, that Jesus calls all of the shots. I could not have delivered a perfect one like that without some help. The clean Butt-out extraction indicated that the bullet was perfectly centered on the point of aim. Hang in there buddy, it will get better.

Fishing in the rain is not bad, as long as it is not windy and cold. I won't stay out there when all three of them hit together. rain and cold is ok, and rain and wind (but warm) can be spectacular. The last few years, some of the best smallmouth, northern-pike, and walleye action I have seen has been on warm, windy, rainy days. A light-weight, breathable rain jacket and bibs makes it comfortable. The fish will strike aggressively all day long in those conditions, not just for a short time early and late like they usually do on sunny days.

I always pack enough rain gear for all occupants. As long as there is no lightning (get off the water if there is) the fishing can be very good during the rain. It usually drives away the other boats, so you can have the hot-spots for yourself. Sunscreen is a good idea and is even more important for other activities because the fishing is usually not so hot when the sun is shining bright. A spare prop, washer and cotter pin is a good idea. As far as the alcohol goes, if you are casting lures, save it until after you have your limit. The first thing that buzz takes away is the ability to detect a strike. If the police could harness that effect, it would work better than a breathalizer. Save the beers for later. Nothing washes down a raw walleye cheek, eaten right off a fillet knife, better than a big swig of Genny cream ale.

Thats a big one for sure. Hopefully he gets three or more picks like that over the next 7 years. All the other stuff is relatively insignificant in comparison.

It looked like the Texas rangers were firing Colt Walker .44 revolvers at the Commanchi's and Eli in one of the "flashback" scenes. All of the guns look to be pretty accurate for the times (1848 and 1915). They must have some pretty good tech advisers on that show.

Spraying reduced concentration gly is a cheap way to control grass in clover, but it can lead to gly resistance. The grass is an indication that nitrogen is getting high in the soil in those areas. You might want to till those grassy areas up later in the summer and put in a heavy nitrogen user like brassicas, corn, or winter wheat. In the mean time, I would just control the grass as best you can with mowing.

That is a pretty good show. I have been getting back into levers lately and actually starting watching it after seeing one in the previews. I have the last episode on dvr and will be sure to look for that auto when I watch it.

Zoes on Transit is pretty good.

Thanks for bringing up God and the Bible. That is the best reference to use in order to determine why man should hunt. No where does it mention "for antlers", "for sport" or "for recreation". If any of those is your primary reason for hunting, that is ok. Jesus Christ died for all sinners, you may be forgiven. No matter what wrongs you have committed, there is always hope for you. He does specifically point out that man should eat deer (Deuteronomy 14:5), and also the Father, who represents God in the story of the prodigal son (Luke 15:11-32) kills the fatted calf to celebrate his son's return. "Thou shall not kill" is one of the commandments, but that means humans, not animals. As it is written, God condones the killing of animals, and designed man for that task, by placing our eyes in front and giving us canine teeth.

This was a pretty good sized one and it probably yielded 30-35 pounds of boneless meat after some careful trimming. I put in some extra time on those, whenever I am blessed with one, making sure nothing goes to waste. They bulk up pretty good around here, by opening day of gun season, on a heavy corn diet. I can't claim full responsibility for this "great harvest" however, because a friend to whom I transferred one of my DMP's delivered the center-lung, broadside shot that destroyed very little of that prize-worthy meat. He does not like venison though, and all he wanted to keep was one of the backstraps, to give to his step-father. I was able to kill this one's momma, later that afternoon, when she showed up at the gut-pile for milking time. It does bother me a bit to kill mature does, knowing that they may be carrying two bucks. Does that bother you at all? I wonder why not since you seem so aghast at BB harvests? Life does begin at conception after all. The deer population in the zone where I live is above optimum, so I do my part whenever an opportunity presents itself. I always target the largest antlerless deer first, and that has resulted in 25% button bucks thru the years. I will admit that I love it when that happens because there is absolutely no better eating than those "fatted calves". To me, and my wife especially, that is cause for celebration. If you or anyone is heart-broken after mistakingly killing one, feel free to shoot me a pm and we will take your "problem" off your hands for you. Whatever you do, don't leave the liver in the woods. You seem to have a real issue with small buck harvests and I want you to know that I appreciate that. Those little bucks you pass may very well be what provides my family with some fine-eating. Also, I am sorry if some of the smaller bucks that we harvest never get to make it onto your trophy wall. Good luck this season, and I hope you get the big antlered one(s) you are after.

My venison came in at less than $1.00 per pound last season, after subtracting all input costs. We have not been able to produce beef that cheap in my lifetime, and you surely can not get any meat from the store cheaper. I appreciate you and all the other trophy hunters. The little bucks you pass might end up being the ones that help keep my own family's food costs down. I hope you stick around in NY rather than moving off to some other state that might rank higher for the trophy deer (I hear there might be a few of those). Keep up the good work. The thing I like best about deer hunting is that it is a very cost-effective method of providing healthy food for my family. The fact that it is also a fun recreational activity is of secondary importance. You are right about the venison being better than anything you can buy in a restaurant. The button-buck roast that we had for lunch today was spectacular. You don't know what your missing if you have never enjoyed one of those.

You don't sound very happy with the deer hunting we have here in NY. My opinion, as a "meat-hunter", is that the DEC has done a wonderful job of deer management. The local deer population has been slightly above optimum at home (WMU 9F), and just about perfect in my away spot (WMU 6C) for at least the last 10 years. Last season was my personal all-time best, for pounds of meat in the freezer, and that makes it tough for me to recommend any changes to current regs. Good deer populations and liberal allocation of DMP tags (at home), has kept my family very well fed with that wonderful "organic" venison for many years. I do need to drive carefully at home, especially during the rut, to avoid hitting deer on my way to and from work, and I have to put in a little extra time and effort, to score up in the Adirondacks, but I enjoy all of it. I feel sorry for folks who live in other states and struggle to fill their freezers, including even those from "great" hunting states, like Alaska. From watching some of those reality TV series from up there, it almost looks easier to "live off the land" down here. The fishing we have is also spectacular and the DEC also deserves some of the credit for that. One thing is for sure, I will never take for granted how good we have it as sportsman here in NY state.

Poison ivy used to bother me. These days, if I think I may have contacted some, a shower with luke-warm water and soap gets rid of the oil before it sinks in. Usually, that means every time I come in the house, after running a chainsaw in the woods. It is also important to toss the clothes in the wash, or you or anyone else who contacts them will get the oil on them and not realize it until the rash breaks out a day or two later.