Bionic

Im sitting behind my house in the woods, but the wind is blowing to my house, from where I am sitting...so i decided to go out to the road, and put some tinks 69 on my boot tread, and walk from the road, through the side woods, and circle in front of my spot, and have a seat.. I am trying anything, at this point....1900 acres of woods across the street.

I just saw 3 doe

Have you been seeing deer, during your sits?

Im out in 3K again. I haven't seen a deer since Monday, hoping that changes.

I have a NW wind this morning, so I am sitting on the left side of the diagram, where this subtle hill blends doen into the rest of the acreage.

Doc, thanks for that last response, your hill is bigger than my hill, I am comfortable with that. I have a camp in the Adirondacks, I am not unfamiliar as to what a true hill is. Point is, when posting this in the beginning, I figured this "hill" which I checked on a topo, climbs that subtle 30' over 178' by foot travel...I have been to actual hills, and mountains, and know this is a simple feature. However, Compared to the sourrounding arces here, it is the most boldest feature. The surrounding acres, are true lumps in terrain. I cant imagine this hill has little to no effect on its surrounding when its the boldest feature on this postage stamp of 300 some odd acres. I have permission for about 80 acres of it, but unfortunately, access is a small area, due to homes, etc. I appreciate you not wanting to give me a half a** of an answer though....your input is not wasted. Moog, thanks again! I will keep reading on HuntingBeast....they are critical lf every detail over there, they are midwest, but a lot can still apply.

The flat section is roughly 125 yards across. I have sat at the very end for a few seasons, prior to permission for down there, my biggest buck was taken at the end of the West hill, where it blends into the rest of the area. I believe he was just a cruiser. The left side is more open hardwoods, which eventually meet backyards, the flats on the far end have a swamp from hill, to hill. The closer end of flats, have a dried up pond(approximately 7 acres)with grass growing all around....there is a house on that old pond though, that is active. The east side hill, is very dark, with mature pines, that eventually lead to a seperate swamp....I have permission to the creek just before the east hill....half the flats are dark pines, big canopy but not thick on the ground, then it turns into hardwoods to the dried up pond...

Thank you for all that info, I read it a good 5x, and I follow you. Makes sense. I was under the impression, that deer follow hills when wind is blowing from the high side, because they can SEE below them, but can smell what they cannot see. As I typed that, maybe that was for bedding on hills, and points...I read on HuntingBeast from time to time.

Moog, too thick to shoot from side to side.

Moog, the main concerns I had were if the flat section between the two inclines was a bad idea to hunt....would deer be bedded on the far hill watching me enter the flat area from the other side? Also, I was wondering what the odds are of deer even traveling through the flat area, due to the raised elevations on each side. If this terrain feature is as basic as its mocked to be then, just watch wind direction like anywhere else? Say west was the left side of my drawing....if i had a west wind would deer use the hill on the left side(west) ? And if it was an east wind would the only use the east side hill? Or if the wind is northwest is that better? This is where I struggle, plus the wind seems to spiral no matter where I setup, anywhere on the property, even when I am not in this area described....

Moog, I appreciate the input, I have seen the deer you have harvested, and saw that you only started 6 or 7 years ago, I without a doubt take your input very seriously. Like I said I will show you a better image of this piece of land, a lot more details to add, as far as swamps, thickets of pine, and where a road with houses are.

I will add more detail in a bit, rushed the original post. As far as the "hill", it is, what it is really. It's still an incline over a short distance, and in relation to the actual lumpy terrain, its a hill. I can't imagine it has no effect on wind movement. I will post a better pic, or topo, but the topo doesnt seem to really the true landscape if that makes sense. A lot of info you all gave so far, thanks, need to let it soak in a bit.

I know its hear say, but thats obnoxious if he gave it to the DEC, why shoot it, knowing you cannot get that caliber of an animal out of the woods. Shooter should be heavily punished, just thinking out loud...

Deer seem to aimlessly wander in this area. No doe tags in this zone, and AR of 3 or more 1" points on one side. So, I am honestly to the point of hoping for a cruising buck from a far away place. Curious if one would be better one day due to wind over the other. None of this makes sense, no clue how anyone from a post like this, would be able to make heads or tails of it. Let me try, and find a topo map.

I dont have a stand in there, Idont hunt it often, so I typically sit against a blowdown. I honestly dont pay attention to the wind because, every time I check it, its swirls, and/or travels back and forth.

First off, I am in the woods as I type this, I took the provided pic before I left, and I think I took it wrong. I did rotate it, so we'll see. Anyways, I am under the impression scent rises up the hills in the warming hours of the day. I also believe deer will cruise along the hills during these warming hours, one third down from the top, in this spiraling scent zone.... I have an area, about 1000' long that has parralel hills. These two hills rise in opposite directions, and inbetween the bases of these hills there is a FLAT area about 400' across. I am not sure if this is a saddle, or not. These hills rise about 30' in elevation. Is the center flat area a bad idea to hunt? Obviously risky in my opinion because it is like you are on stage, with the hills as a grandstand for deer to spot you. I am also under the impression that when wind is blowing from the top of the hill, deer will travel that hill because the deer can smell what they cannot see over the hill, but can see below. The creek always catches my interest due to water...but it is on the opposite side I enter the area from, causing me to have to venture through the flat area.

In 3K again for deercation. Dad saw a wide 8 pointer about a mile away as he headed to his home from here last night. I hope he meanders through here between 10 and 2, preferably the sooner the better. We have had wind since Friday night, FINALLY the wind is calm as can be, thankful for that. Good luck everyone, and be safe. I have a funny feeling about today....

I couldn't agree more, I live, and hunt 3K Eldred, people in 3M don't understand that the deer they pass on in 3M, are NICE up here in 3K. Big deer do exist up here, but if you pass on deer, you may not see another legal buck. Its catch 22, you want to pass on the smaller legal bucks, but at the same time does are off limits, and you may not see another legal buck.

Homemade pizza! My favorite to make. Forgot a pic tonight, but heres one from a couple weeks ago that I made up at camp.

It was a dead doe, with the gut pile next to it. Not a big deal, its a part of hunting, and how meat gets put on a table, no matter the species. Not a dig, to each his own, I personally did not see an issue, but see why people found it distasteful. I wish I had a doe with a gut pile, im just envious lol

Double photo? It was worth looking at twice.

Yes, i do, sorry....checked profile.

Were you 3M or do I have you confused?

Sucked, for lack of better terms.

Back in 3k again.