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Remington 7600 and 7400's are notoriously famous for not having out of the box accuracy. I just wanted to mention that Hornady makes a curved OAL gauge: http://www.hornady.com/store/Lock-N-Load-OAL-Gauge-Curved-1-Each/. That's the one I use for 7600's. The straight ones are obviously only for bolt and single shot actions.

Firing all rounds would solve the ejection port problem. Not having to eject an unspent round isn't the most elegant solution but agree it would work. Good point.

I Agree with you Lawdwaz, magazine length and ejector port limitations could limit the cartridge overall length optimization process. I know as I tried to do the same thing with a 35 Whelen 7600 carbine, the ejection port just couldn't handle the improved cartridge length and I didn't really want to get into machining the receiver to elongate the ejection port. So I was successful with the 270 but wasn't with the 35. How it would work out with the 30-06 I don't know for sure. I think its worth a try. Also I think using a round nose vs. spire point bullets makes a difference as far achievable OAL accuracy improvement. A round nose bullet will give you a shorter OAL with ideal bullet jump compared to a spire point or spitzer.

Hello Eagle Rider, I feel your pain but I have some good news for you! I had the same problem with a couple of Remington 7600's in 270 Winchester. I read an article by in a book titled Metallic Cartridge Reloading by M.L. McPherson. He discussed the topic of "Adjusting Seating Depth for Accuracy" (on page 61 of his book). In it explained how reducing bullet jump ( the distance a bullet has to travel to engage the lands of the rifling) greatly enhances accuracy and group size. You can determine the ideal OLA (overall Length) using an OAL gauge: On my Remington 7600's in 270 Winchester I used an OAL gauge to determine the best OAL for a 15 to 20 mil bullet jump. The result was group my size was reduced to 1 to 1.3 inches. Prior to this my group sizes were about 2.75 to 3 inches. Feel free to ask or PM me if you have additional questions.

Belo, I completely agree with you. When I said a 12 gauge rifled slug can be devastating I meant I didn't mean excessive meat damage. I shot several southern zone bucks over 170 pounds in the last 10 years that dropped in their tracks, (i.e. like they "fell through a trap door"). Of the three bucks that were thus dispatched none had excessive meat loss. So we agree.

Yes republicans have let us down some. But, come on Wildcats, if you look at any gun control legislation and the voting record of those involved it becomes instantly clear which party has the destruction of the second amendment in its sights. To say there is no difference between the two parties is lunacy. At least look at the roll call vote of the Safe Act or any similar piece of legislation before making a comment that there is no real difference between the two parties.

Unfortunately its not your Daddy's Democrat party anymore. Reasonable minded moderate democrats have become the exception.

Folks, There are people who want to see us divided. Let's not let them win. The fact that there is political venting is normal considering the bad actors who are presently in charge of the country. Let's hang together, we represent something that is at the core of being American. It was the free hunters and trappers who stepped up and made this vagabond bunch of colonies a Nation. God Bless us all.

Agree!

Agree !

I just checked my 700, its not affected. Thanks for the info.

You're welcome Dawn, If you evee get into hand loading, there is a very good but little known site that features a free ballistics program. Its about as good as any you can buy. http://www.handloads.com/calc/

Welcome Dawn, We need new blood! Good luck in all your outdoor adventures. A few nice sites: http://www.adkhunter.com/ http://www.adksportsman.com/ http://www.nyantler-outdoors.com/ http://www.deerhuntingbasics.com/ http://www.deerhuntersdirectory.com/

Recommend you review: http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/23280-what-is-is-your-pack/ That covers most of the hunting and safety related stuff you will need. As for setting up a camp, if its a semi permanent camp for more than 3 nights or for the deer season you will have to get a form from the local ranger and fill it out and return it him. He will approve it and return it to you and you post it on your campsite when you erect your camp. If you plan on back packing for just a few days you don't need to bother with it. Remember to go as light as possible. You want to have time and energy left to hunt. The deer are spread out quite a bit in the Adirondacks but seem to come out of the woodwork during the rut. There are some real dandy bucks up there. Good luck.

6. At least 10 spare rounds in addition to magazine The reason why I say at least 10 rounds is for signaling. I was hunting along the Maine/Quebec border near Jackman Maine a few years back. I picked a nice track mid afternoon about a mile or two from the truck. That buck that was headed the "wrong way" (my poor judgment to follow that late in the day). While I "didn't really got lost" I did get a bit confused after night fell. After dark your spare rounds are a means of communication. My buddy shot me out. We wound up using about 7 or 8 rounds each. I was glad I had the extra ammo. I was able to get a bearing on the truck and avoid acres of tree tops that were in the area. That night I had a nice dinner in Jackman instead of spending the night in the woods or crawling though slash.

BK Hunter, Sorry I am late in responding to your great question. I personally bone out my deer but use a traditional meat saw (hand powered) to cut the carcass in half and cut 2-inch thick osso bucco shank sections from the legs. I own a saws-all but I don't really think it is required as a decent meat saw is easier to control and is sufficient for the job.

Excellent article Mr. VJP. Thinking back over the years I have much to be thankful for being an ardent hunter and fisherman. I may not be any great shakes but my love for the outdoors especially hunting and fishing has kept me out of trouble and helped me get back on the right track when I started to head in a wrong direction. Excellent article!

Being a student of Jack O'Conner I agree with you. I have several 270's (pumps and bolts) and love the round as a effective game getter. I think the 270 Winchester is the best deer cartridge period. I also agree the 12 Ga. Slug at normal whitetail deer ranges is both devastating and efficient. I also have a soft spot for the Colonel and his 35 Whelen ( aka the "Poor man's Magnum") and 338 Winchester for bigger game.

We lived in NH for 12 years. Its a great state. Generally very well run and the politicians truly had an ethic of serving the people. No state income tax or sales tax. The deer hunting is definitely much tougher than NYS. Hunting the wilderness areas of the White Mountains and to the North in Pittsburgh is a joy for any true hunter. The woodcock and grouse hunting in the northern and parts of the central portion of the state was fantastic.

If hunting in the wilderness (i.e. ADK backcountry) These items can all be contained in a mid sized fanny pack or small back pack. Navigational and communications gear in pockets. 1. Strike anywhere matches and 2 lighters 2, 2 or 3 compasses (one of which has a luminous dial, tritium preferred) 3. GPS 4. Cell phone 5 Drag rope 6. At least 10 spare rounds in addition to magazine 7. License & tags 8. Collapsible water cup 9. Quart or 2 quart plastic bags for treating water or 1 quart plastic canteen. 10. Iodine tablets (or water treatment system if you can spare the room) 11, Pen for filling out tags or making notes 12. Space Blanket 13.Topo Maps 14. Hunting knife 15. Small foldable camp saw 16. Small first aid kit 17. Small roll of electrical tape 18. Small amount of toilet paper or paper towels 19. Light weight rain top 20. Head lamp with spare batteries 21 Folded garbage bag for sitting on logs and watching trails 22. Small amount of duct tape for feet (in case of blisters) 23. Grunt call and/or bleat call 24. Small amount of flagging tape 25 Small section of candle for staring a fire. 26. A few chocolate bars or brownies and a couple of apples.

Nice to see a bear and a coyote staring down each other. I wonder what brought them together? Berries, a kill or just crossing paths?

That's great country. Too bad the old man isn't still up there. You must be a very good biker to be able to bank your bike like that and live to tell about it.

One thing to be careful of is that although the cooler plastic inside surface is food grade plastic some coolers may not be rated for contact with boiling water. The inner surface of the cooler is made of FDA-quality polypropylene but the inner layers of insulating material could have plasticizers that could leach out due to the high heat and be harmful if consumed. Just a thought.

Those are very nice clear photos. Good to see.

Never drink downstream from a herd and never look straight up at a bird. Actually cowboy trail tips.