WNYBuckHunter

Contest thread for 2014 HNY Whitetail Challenge

Contest thread for 2014 HNY Whitetail Challenge

Take a look at Wicked Ridge, they are Ten Point's budget line. Very good quality and features for the price.

Thanks for all the info guys. Ill have to order some pretty soon to have time to play around with the load a bit. I have so many of the Shockwaves left from last year, I may just stick with them till they are gone then make the change.

How about something specifically for one of them?

Ill buy something gun related with mine

And the sheeple will fall for it

Buying votes

Problem with that site, is it is not specific to any state, so you cant apply it to NY specifically. I agree on going to talk to a lawyer if you really have questions about it.

I think that has more to do with setting traps to harm or injure trespassers. You know, like putting nails in a trail or something like that, which always seems to be suggested around here in the trespassers threads.

Soda all over my desk....thanks steve

http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/8371.html Its right down toward the bottom of that page..... Q. Is posting required to protect landowners from liability? A. No. Whether the property is posted or not, the General Obligations Law protects landowners from liability for non-paying recreationalists on their property. Because of this protection, recreational liability lawsuits against rural landowners are uncommon. Recreational activities covered include: hunting; fishing; organized gleaning (picking); canoeing; boating; trapping; hiking; cross-country skiing; tobogganing; sledding; speleological (caving) activities; horseback riding; bicycle riding; hang gliding; motorized vehicle operation for recreation; snowmobiling; non-commercial wood cutting or gathering; and dog training. This protection does not apply in cases of willful or malicious failure to guard or warn against dangers. Q. May the owner or lessee charge for hunting, fishing, or trapping on the posted property? A. Yes, but charging for access removes the liability protection granted to the landowner by the General Obligations Law. To learn more about landowner liability see the link for Cornell University's publication "Recreational Access and Owner Liability" under Links Leaving DEC's Website in the right hand column at the top of this page.

Ding ding ding ding ding!!!!!

The original subject of the post had nothing to do with baiting in NY.

No, I get it. You want to see more handouts, I want to see less. I am not basing my opinion on how something has affected me personally. How did all those incentives work out for the home loan industry? We are all paying for that one. Almost everyone I know that took advantage of those types of loans ended up bankrupt because they couldnt afford it when it came down to brass tacks. I agree with virgils concept because it still entices people to work for things. No interest just because you want to go to college for a basic business degree or a vocational school and you didnt have to excel during high school to do it? No way.

So who pays for this goverment incentive? And who ends up paying to make up the bank's costs for giving out free loans? You dont get it.

Agreed. I wasnt directing that at you.

And their credit suffers because of it. It will haunt you longer than 7 years. Pay your freaking debts and quit complaining about it. What you dont realize, is that in order for these pie in the sky things youd like to see, someone will flip the bill, and it will be the taxpayer, including you, so you will pay one way or the other. The rest of us that are responsible enough to pay our own way shouldnt have that burden put on us.

Not if its done right. So heres the other caveat to all of this. Say you do make college education a right for everyone. Now doesnt it just become the new high school diploma, and in the effort to hire the best and brightest, employers start making additional requirements to get the "good jobs"?

Until you pay them off, like you agreed to when you took them on.

I never stepped foot in college my man. Youre barking up the wrong tree. I made my way from the bottom to where I am now with nothing but hard work and determination. Nobody has handed me a thing. I have struggled, and still continue to sometimes. I dont make any excuses though, my life has happened the way it has because I made the choices I did. I have never defaulted on any type of loan, Ive borrowed form Peter to pay Paul before to get me past a rough patch, but I always paid my debts, and I knew exactly what the deal was when I committed to them. Do you know how bankruptcy works? That follows you for a long time, its not a free "get out from under your debit" card.

I think if you take that idea, and mesh it with what virgil said Ireland does, then Id say winner winner chicken dinner. No interest for a guy in a welding class? Nope.

So what? I pay plenty of interest on everything I take a loan for. Its part of the deal. Dont want to pay interest on your education costs, save enough to pay for it yourself, or work you tail off and get a scholarship or two. Taxes dont go to the banks that provide the service. Government backed loans are coming from a bank, not the US treasury. Again, banks are a business, want their services, pay for them. BTW, you get a good job to earn enough money to pay for your toys. You dont need a $200k house, or a car thats less than 10 years old, or your hunting equipment, or any of that stuff. Who are you trying to kid? I could survive on a much lower paying job than I have now, but I work my ass off to make life better for my kids and myself, and alot of that has to do with luxury items.

I know. I was just agreeing with you

Banks are businesses, why shouldnt they make money on loaning money to people? Are you serious?