WNYBuckHunter

Holy bases phademan! He oughtta be a stunner this year!

You should still be flexing and twisting the shafts to be sure they are good. I do it every so often when Im shooting, as well as before and after each practice session.

Would have to wait until October though....

Zactly.

It IS a trigger lol. Its a mechanical device that fires the bow.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/05/nyregion/cuomo-womens-rights-plan-may-hinge-on-abortion-proposal.html?_r=0 "The language about abortion in the measure is spare: five sentences at the end of a 59-page bill. The sentences would guarantee a woman’s right to an abortion as established by Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized the procedure. The measure would secure a right to late-term abortions when the health of the pregnant woman is at risk or when the fetus is not viable, as determined by a doctor." Im no fan of Cuomo, but unless that article is misrepresenting the facts, it doesnt sound like anything will be legal that isnt already. Am I missing something?

Pushing to legalize abortion in NY? Its already legal.

Man, that sucks. Sorry to hear it. On a similar note, we came home yesterday to a dead fridge, though we didnt loose anything except what it will cost to replace it.

What difference does it make how many hunters shoot each other with guns? If you really look into the incidents, they are always associated with unsafe handling of the firearm. Always. You will never regulate these incidents out of existence and you will never legitimately use these stats as an argument against crossbow inclusion. Now if you were to find some stats showing that crossbow hunting incidents happen with higher frequency than vertical bow incidents, then you may have a legit argument. Good luck with that. No matter how much you argue this, any rational person can clearly see the difference between a crossbow and a gun.

Did you let yourself get sucked back in Doc?

Uh, a gun or crossbow cant just "go off in your lap" randomly, or just hanging in the tree. Where do you get this stuff?

Ahhh, I didnt know that Lowes was empty and that things had come to a halt over there. I dont get to Batavia that often now days.

1 - I guess I did. 2 - You are saying its not a fact that people hunt from the ground with a bow? You are kidding right? Or are you saying that very few do it? Id say you are wrong on that as well. I have not seen an actual study of how many do, but you have quite a few hunters that do so that frequent this very site. I wasnt speaking about what most people do. Go back and read what I said. Sheesh. 3 - cool 4 - there are stabs out there with accessory rails, all you have to do is attach a bipod or shooting stick and bam, there ya go. Im not saying a ton of people use them, I am merely saying they can be used. If people werent using them, the stabs to attach them wouldnt exist.

I numbered to make it easy to answer. 1 - So what? Just because YOU say it isnt so, doesnt mean they arent facts. Prove one single one wrong. 2 - Im not going to speak for the majority, what I originally stated is a fact. 3 - Im not sure why anything I said strikes you odd. If my area includes rifles and crossbows, then Ill have to decide which one I want to pick up first. In no way am I saying Id never hunt with my compound. Im a variety type of guy. During gun season I hunt with both a muzzle loader and a shotgun, and have used a handgun in the past (hopefully again soon) hopefully I will be able to add a rifle to that list. I currently hunt with a compound during bow season, but down the road I plan to add a recurve to my collection, as well as a crossbow. It will be nice to wake up and choose which I want to take into the woods that day. 4 - You can put a bipod on a vertical bow and there are other stabilization attachments for them as well. All I said was that they are both aimed using similar sighting systems. Whats your point? Guys miss deer every day of the season with guns, dont they? You think they arent going to miss with crossbows? Belo, you need to get past this "easier to shoot" thing when debating crossbows with me, I have never said they werent easier to shoot than a vertical bow. I have actually stated multiple times that they are, and I have no problem with that.

That doesnt really matter. Dont you remember how quickly they were implemented last time? Also the DEC pushed in new regs last season that werent hammered out until the last minute. Im not worried.

Sorry, but both are aimed using 2 sight fixtures, they are aimed in the same way. Vertical and horizontal only applies to the directions the limbs go. Most people use a release now days, they are a mechanical trigger. Bolts are of the same exact construction as arrows, the only difference is the length and spine strength. Its an arrow. Go google around to see what a real bolt was back when they were used with the old crossbows that shot them. Sorry my man, you can deny the truth all day long, doesnt make the denials correct.

Congrats to Woodsman20 for winning 1st place and also to GR8WhiteHunter for winning 2nd place! It was a fun contest to watch unfold and came right down to the wire! PM me your addresses and I will send the prizes right out to you! Thank you to everyone who participated and congrats to all of you that took birds this year!

Congrats on taking 2nd place!

Even if i hadnt rounded the spur up, youd still have tied for first and we would have gone to the tie breaker. Dont minimize it, you won. Congrats!

I cant imagine why Batavia would turn it down, they already have a bunch of box stores in there.

Then they can build in the Rochester area lol.

I wont hold my breath for him to answer it, the honest answer would derail his line of reasoning. Its ok, its looking like this discussion wont have to continue much longer anyway. Were gonna have rifles and crossbows in Ontario county this year with a little luck. Decisions decisions.....

No, I knew what you were doing, I just pointed out that the same similarities you pointed out were also similarities between vertical bows and the crossbows and guns you mentioned. I guess it was you that missed the point.

Lol, the spring turkey contest. A chuck contest might be fun, a little late to start now though. Maybe next year.

Again, you are incorrect. Many bow hunters hunt from the ground, quite a few move while they are on the ground. Again, your point is what?