Northcountryman

That’s because it was done in such a manner that it would be difficult To detect at the federal level IMHO. If illegal ballots were cast - and I believe that they were - then they must be analyzed ballot- by- ballot , something that hasn’t been done . That’s just one example . Also , the acceptance of countless late ballots ; how are they going to catch that now if they were postmarked on the 3 rd when they really weren’t in the 3 rd but the 4 th. The AG and cyber security guy both coming out and saying that there was NO EVIDENCE of fraud doesn’t mean there wasn’t fraud, just not able to be proven Within the time frame of 11/3 /20 and 12/14/20 when the electors met . Of course , Conversely , this also doesn’t mean there WAS significant fraud either . I think that a thorough investigation post election is warranted here where all of the witnesses can be subpoenaed and be heard so that this situation can be rectified for the next election. Having said that , this past election is , indeed , over and Biden is the next President , period. I don’t like it , but it’s a fact . Hey , that’s democracy baby!! lol

I don’t have a Facebook so nothing to delete lol ; So What’s Mewee?

Exactly , the hypocrisy is stunning - and nauseating .

Yup , I Think the was very Competent and capable ( unlike his predecessor lol) and did a fine job governing this country . But he also is kind of an asshole and is very selfish and egocentric ; that I don’t like !! And although I do believe there was significant election fraud , I will also concede that it is entirely possible he would have lost anyway straight up .

Yes , I believe that there was and ,in the manner described by this piece , It would be very difficult for the for the FEDS election officials to pick up on it . Well done

Exactly , and that’s why accusing him of being a Dictator is nothing but absurd

Agreed

A Dictator . Come on !! More hyperbole . I heard the call you’re referencing and I heard no threats or intimidation , attempts to bribe , etc. I think he was just frustrated, and , acting like a sore loser( which I believe that he is ).

Ridiculous , that would not happen and will not happen :ever.

You’re posting an Oped clip Comparing Trump to Fascists from The NY Times ? Hardly an Objective source wouldn’t you say

The media discredits themselves with their clear and profound bias towards conservatives ; what many of us who voted for Trump was his courage to call them out on it . Unfortunately, I think he often took it a little too far . What’s wrong with the MAGA slogan ?? Both sides should have no problem with the slogan ; maybe you don’t like their message , which is fine but the slogan is as patriotic as you can get . What about Obama’s Hope and Change message ? Was that somehow superior ? Some on the right argued that it had a very Socialist / Communist connotation . I myself , did not believe that but I disagreed with almost everything the man did as President !

I cannot and I think that’s a major overreach to suggest otherwise . Again, you may not like him and that’s fine , because , considering what happened last Wednesday , I’m liking him a little less myself , not a Nazi ?? Nope

Yes they were , and they were also leftists ; do you think that Fascism is owned by the right ? It comes from both sides of the political spectrum

You’re admitting that there name derives from “national socialist Workers party” , yet you deny they’re leftists ? Doesn’t make sense .

The Nazis were not right wing extremists , they were Lefties and the reason why were discussing it is because it was brought up as a comparison to The MAGA movement; Thus , it has everything to do with Nazism . No , I said that the Left uses that analogy more than the right but the right does use it too ( remember the Tea Party with their depictions of Obama as Hitler ?). Hogwash , same as the comparison of Trump and his supporters To Nazis . Absolute Hogwash

Wow , where did you see that ? Very disturbing

3rd Pic is great lol

Must be a Cruiser lol

You’re conflating the 2 issues now. I was talking about the Constant invocation of Nazism by the left in juxtaposition To modern Conservatism And , as I stated before , it has no factual basis . I don’t disagree with what you say about the Republican Party now Being in disarray as a consequence of the riot but , comparison to Nazism? Not even close Also , you state that Trump is deliberately lying to cajole his base about election fraud. No , he’s not . He may be wrong about the magnitude of the fraud causing his defeat , but , I think any fair minded person would have to agree with the assessment that the President truly believes that the election was stormed from him ; Maybe he’s right IDK. Having said that , I’m totally with you in condemning and denouncing his actions and behavior in terms of incitement of the riots . Because , Yup, he did do that . It was Totally irresponsible , reprehensible and incredibly selfish of him to do so and I am ashamed and embarrassed about what happened . But a comparison to Nazis ?? Nope , I’m not buying it

Awsesome lol

Yes , we do see demagoguery and propagation of propagation of falsehoods and it comes from both sides . The left has engaged in their fair share of it over the years and I’m sure you and I can both pull up examples If it from both sides so their is no need . Actually I think that your missing the point here . It is very common in contemporary political discussions for many on the left ( maybe the right sometimes does it too, idk but I’ve never really seen it Coming from them) to invoke the memory of the Nazis to bolster their argument or position as a way to discredit the other . In reality , What it does is Cheapen and undermine the central thesis of their positions by continually making weak, irrelevant and unfair comparisons - kind of like the boy who cried wolf too many times . If you want to use the Nazi , Fascist or whatever other evil political comparison you can conceive of , please make sure that it is apt and fitting . Otherwise , it just compromises the credibility of your argument !!

I agree , completely different . Didn’t Joy Behar and / or other women on the View do that back in the day when they compared President Bush To the Terrorists? Why can’t the left denounce a political leader Or a group or what have you without going to extremes Constantly lol

Falsely and stupidly believe that the election was fraudulent? Really. Well, I'm not sure why you choose to characterize the millions who believe that there was significant election fraud -many democrats too according to stats- as there is substantial evidence that there was indeed voter fraud taking place. And Did you feel the same way about those who contended that the 2016 was fraudulent due to Russian interference and that Hillary Clinton was the rightful winner?? The Russian collusion hoax was was supported by the democrats and pushed by them and their media allies for over half of Trumps presidency and what was the result of their investigation?? NO COLLUSION Were those people stupid as well or, only the ones you disagree with?? See, the thing is, I thought the Russian conspiracy hoaxers were wrong all along but I am ok with them investigating to ensure the election wasnt fraudulent; why arent you in thise case? Cant have it both ways !! "All the racial justice protests that turned violent were immediately scorned by Democratic leaders"-Versatile Hunter Really?? I dont think Kamala is doing that in this clip is she? Also, didnt she setup and/or support a funding effort to bail out alot of those protestors-those same ones who were caught red-handed committing some of the most heinous acts of mayhem and violence, mind you-to bail them out of jail?? Yup, she did!! So, they did not , as you aver, roundly codemn the violence and thats the problem; the double standard and the hypocrisy that is so apparent to those of us on the right. Now, youre right that Biden did come out with a video statement condeming the rioting BUT THAT WASNT UNTIL SPETEMBER 2ND, 3 months after the intitial rioting began!! In contrast, the Presidernt came out THE NEXT DAY in comdemnation of the Capital Hill Riots. 3 months as compared to 1 day?? Not even close to being similar. And, I content that Biden only FINALLY came out in codemnation because his handlers advised him too because it was hurting in the polls . "To in any way equate these 2 causes of unrest is to totally misrepresent very recent history." -Versatile Hunter Not true as they are indelibly linked IMHO Based on your last statement , it sounds like your justifying the destruction of private and public property, violence (and murder) against innocent people in the support of racial justice, is that correct? In other words, you sanction it because the cause is just and noble ? Moreover, in comparison, the rioting perpetrated by Trump supporters last Wednesday was ignoble due to the fact that theyre ignorant and their cause is unjustified and trivial because voter fraud never happened and is trivial in comparision, right? Well, Im not sure what the George Floyd killing had to do with looting and stealing for one, do you (and all the other associated afroementioned riotous acts) ? Although I agree that you can support one cause over another- agree with it if you will-You CANNOT justify and condone the rioting and mayhem perpetrated by one and then turn around and condemn the other when your major complaint/condemnation is the rioting and the mayhem itself, dont you understand that? And If you do , That is truly and clearly hypocrisy and as a consequence, you undermine your entire argument!! P.S. So what happened to this guy??

Yes , I agree , good point Grouse . I liked Arnold’s message very much although I find the MAGA Riots/Kristalnacht Analaogy a bit over the top . I think that , in order for us to move on as a country and also , learn from what happened to ensure that it never happens again , is for BOTH sides to take some some responsibility for what went down last Wednesday . President Trump and his supporters clearly took things too far when they did what they did and I condemn their actions totally . However , the DEMS And the biased media laid the groundwork For all of this when they supported , encouraged and condoned ALL of the violence and riots that were going on for MONTHS stemming from the George Floyd incident perpetrated by BLM and Antifa . Moreover , The message that was implicit in their complicity was “ its ok to riot, destroy private property , assault others , etc. to get your way “. Violence , looting and rioting begets more violence , so they say . To me , ( in a civilized society at least ) if you’re against that , then you should always be against it , no matter the circumstances . Don’t pick and choose situations to express moral outrage based on your political beliefs because it undermines your moral outrage and your message !! Be consistent !!

Wow , very scary , did they post anything that was controversial like supporting the protest at the Capital last Wednesday ?