Northcountryman

I can live with that .

You absolutely could not say that to any of us in person with a straight face IMHO - competent ? Clearly , Biden is the antithesis of that, and Harris is even worse . Hopefully , we can persist until Trump can win again in ‘24 - God help us ….

Not true my friend ; it’s very clear , however , that you’ve made up your mind regarding the matter and are not objective at all as you would refuse to acknowledge it no matter what come out post election. Why do you consider it nonsense ? Did you read the articles? I’ll bet you didn’t even read them did you ?

And another : https://crimeofthecentury2020.com/exclusive-democrats-implicated-georgia-ballot-traffickers-were-using-democrat-officials-offices-as-stopping-points-during-ballot-drop-runs

Here is another article I found concerning a practice called "Voter Trafficking"- ever heard of it (I have not until now)? Apparently, its a form of coordinated voter fraud involving paid operatives - all for the Democrats, of course- that were stuffing ballot boxes in the few weeks leading up to the '20 election. All of it appears to take place in the swing states where the election was pretty much decided (i.e., PA, AZ, WI , etc.). If true and accurate , it may be the "smoking gun" evidence required to prove that the massive election fraud claims are true-check it!! https://www.survivethenews.com/true-the-vote-finds-107-ballot-trafficking-suspects-in-wisconsin-visited-the-ballot-drop-boxes-over-2000-times-in-the-two-weeks-before-the-2020-election-audio/

Did a little more digging and reading this am about voter fraud and how easy it is to perpetrate it via mail-in. Check out this article written by a woman in florida who did it, like 10 yrs ago, as an experiment just to see if she could get away with it- answer was YUP!! Imagine what they can get away with now!! And the thing is, ina closely contested election in a battleground state , this CAN affect the outcome AND it wont be detected in an election audit !! (directed at my man Virgil who is, seemingly so derisive about the suggestion that election fraud affected the '20 election- likening its espousal to be the equivalent of "belief in the involvement of martians" lol). On the contrary, I do believe its very real: check it!! .https://www.sun-sentinel.com/opinion/commentary/fl-op-com-menge-mail-in-ballots-fraud-florida-20200416-hanmbneuendpbaftyktpactlga-story.html

I'm afraid its just a wee bit more beleieveable than Martians.

Apparently, youre a late-comer to this thread, then cuz Ive posted some evidence/issues that -to many- are serious red flags. The "audits" that you repeatedly cite as definitive proof of no voter fraud WOULD NOT CATCH the mass paper mail in ballot fraud used enmasse in '20; nor would they catch a computer program designed to switch votes if it were internalized. Now, I'm not saying that happened , but it COULD have happened . You need to google some of the ways voting machines can- and are- hacked to obtain different results. Youd be surprised at how easy it is to do for someone who knows what theyre doing. And would a guy like Coomer be capable of such an enterprise? YUP. That doesnt mean he did, of course, but considering his CLEAR bias and intensely strong dislike for the former PREZ, would I put it past him, or others of a similar bent? NOPE.

Again, youre wrong- do you read yours? This is the query from you that I responded to: I said no , did I not? Youre trying to overgeneralize here my friend, arguing that because I believe the election was fraudulent , that I am unwavering in that position and could never be convinced otherwise- NOT!! Thats why I responded to your post, because I absolutely could be convinced otherwise IF the evidence is there!! To date, it is not and I would argue that the reverse -as it stand right now- is actually true. Read your own post Virgil!! I dont think that you do!! Im saying no to your query , not yes- youre wrong!! No, I would NOT continue to doubt the results!!!!

Wrong- you asked me if I would contnue to doubt the results and I said no. How is that a contradiction? I'm glad to see your response and it appears then, that we both agree.

Already answered- no. And if the situation were reversed and significant fraud was, ultimately uncovered and apparent, would you admit that the election was illegitmate ?

Nevr been a fair and honest election ?? I dont know about that; guess it depends how you define "fair and honest". If it requires absolutely no cheating at all (i.e. votinf twice, throwing away votes, dead people voting, etc. ) to qualify as a fair and honest election, then I agree. Realistically, though, I'd move for a more realistic def. with a lower bar or standard. To me, if the amount of fraud is significant enough to impact the outsome, then the election is certainly fraudulent; if not, though, then I would say it was at least "Fair" , if not honest- problem is, how does one know if the amount of fraud was significant enough to impact the outcome?

Sounds alot like Coomer

Yes, I'm watching and wll adjust my thesis accordingly if it appears to be baseless- and you if it does not?

Yup- agreed. IMHO, , I think the Dems saw an opportunity to exploit '20 because of COVID and push mail-in as the primary MO for voting in that election BECAUSE its so easy to cheat AND not to get caught. Moreover, when you have scumbags like Coomer -in a position of power in a Company like Dominion-who developed and designed much of the systems and their software and who held patents for voting systems with SEVERAL different companies , and with a CLEAR and profound left wing anti Trump bias, then I find it toally believeable that fraud may have been perpetrated. Depsite this guys repeated denials now , I , frankly do not believe him!! Google this guy and youll see whast kind of man he is- trutst me, he doesnt come off as overly trustworthy!!!

Why do you say its not real? Im not saying for a fact that it is, but I think it is; do you know otherwise?

Well, I could be wrong here....

Anyone hear of Eric Coomer? I've been readin about this guy as it pertains to the '20 election fraud claim and ill tell ya, there really MAY be something there!! Let me clarify something: i'm not saying that the election was stolen unequivocally as I'm not willing to go that far; however, I do believe that there was significant election malfeasance going on that MAY have significantly impacted the outcome. Morover, alot of fingers are bring pointed at this guy, ERic Coomer : Eric Coomer is the former Director of Security and Product Strategy for Dominion Voting Systems. After the 2020 election debacle, where votes in at least five states had very suspicious results while running Dominion computer systems, center-right journalists made common-sense observations that the results appeared rigged. One journalist, who had infiltrated a conference call filled with Antifa-sympathizing callers, remembered that on the call “Eric from Dominion” was going to ensure that Trump did not win re-election. Now, if you check out some of his now-deleted facebook rants, this dude was a clearly unhinged hard core leftie Trump hater. Now, of course he is entitled to his opinion, as we all are, but would you really want someone with such clear bias against the former Prez to be in charge of voting in multiple states? I wouldnt!!!

You'd be surprised how much people on both sides of the political spectrum actually agree; where they differ is , how to go about getting there.

Why do you find that ironic , then?

Im assuming that you find irony in the situation based on the assumption they werent together

Im hoping to go wet a line tomorrow-weather permitting, of course .

What would your proposal be hypothetically, of course to fix that supposed problem Mike? Would you advocate putting a cap on the amount that earners can make in a given year? If so, very bad idea in my book!

Not a cry wagon if it, in fact , really happened. Everything elese you said I agree with.

Yes they are and the fraud is undetectable, so those that say that the election must have been fair and square cuz no significant evidence of fraud was uncoverered are being way too dismissive in my view .