send letters for crossbows in NY

[nyantler]

Putting one "in the books is irrelevent to me!"

That's fine.

But they are still The Rules of Fair Chase.

Seemingly the rules of "fair chase" were amended when compound bows were first introduced as well as in line muzzleloaders.

Actually the rules weren't amended I believe until 1988 ..... nearly 25 years after the introduction of the compound bow... that is when P&Y first defined a hunting bow... they allowed compounds in without much resistance before then... well.. there was resistance from trad bow hunters.. but none from P&Y... not nearly the scrutiny they have given crossbows

[arrowflinger]

not nearly the scrutiny they have given crossbows

BECAUSE..... (everyone say it with me now).....crossbows are not the same as bows.

Even a child understands that they are different.

[Pat Rockets]

Right..cause it has a stock..thats it..

[WNYBuckHunter]

Granted, they look different, you shoot them slightly differently, but they have a similar effective range, shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion. They are all classified as archery equipment, so the simplest way to implement them would be for all archery equipment to be in archery season.

Dont try to use the late ML season tactic on me, because I feel that scoped inline MLs dont belong in the late season because their range is equal to and in alot of cases, superior to that of a slug gun. Late season should be kept to the types of MLs with shorter range, and/or iron sights only.

[Pat Rockets]

Granted, they look different, you shoot them slightly differently, but they have a similar effective range, shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion. They are all classified as archery equipment, so the simplest way to implement them would be for all archery equipment to be in archery season.

Dont try to use the late ML season tactic on me, because I feel that scoped inline MLs dont belong in the late season because their range is equal to and in alot of cases, superior to that of a slug gun. Late season should be kept to the types of MLs with shorter range, and/or iron sights only.

That stuff dont confront me..i like to use a bow all season..and whaddya know..i can get along and still hunt my  way with shotgunners..hmm..how is it possible..

[WNYBuckHunter]

Granted, they look different, you shoot them slightly differently, but they have a similar effective range, shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion. They are all classified as archery equipment, so the simplest way to implement them would be for all archery equipment to be in archery season.

Dont try to use the late ML season tactic on me, because I feel that scoped inline MLs dont belong in the late season because their range is equal to and in alot of cases, superior to that of a slug gun. Late season should be kept to the types of MLs with shorter range, and/or iron sights only.

That stuff dont confront me..i like to use a bow all season..and whaddya know..i can get along and still hunt my  way with shotgunners..hmm..how is it possible..

LOL, I dont know  ;D

[arrowflinger]

Granted, they look different, you shoot them slightly differently, but they have a similar effective range, shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion. They are all classified as archery equipment, so the simplest way to implement them would be for all archery equipment to be in archery season.

Dont try to use the late ML season tactic on me, because I feel that scoped inline MLs dont belong in the late season because their range is equal to and in alot of cases, superior to that of a slug gun. Late season should be kept to the types of MLs with shorter range, and/or iron sights only.

Why stop there?

If all archery equipment should be lumped together, then all firearms should be lumped together.  After all, they all "shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion."  We just need to control the range differences....easy enough with a few new regs.

No need for any special MZ season, when we extend your logic.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Ok. Let's set a primitive archery.....an archery including everythin.....a gun including all guns.....and a primitive bow/ml.....

[Pat Rockets]

One season. Hunt with what ya got

[WNYBuckHunter]

Ok. Let's set a primitive archery.....an archery including everythin.....a gun including all guns.....and a primitive bow/ml.....

Works for me! 

[arrowflinger]

Ok. Let's set a primitive archery.....an archery including everythin.....a gun including all guns.....and a primitive bow/ml.....

Move the primitive archery to the rut and we're good to go. 

[Pat Rockets]

One season..all weapons..so whiners cant whine about not getting the rut..or having too short or long of a season...no  segragation

[WNYBuckHunter]

Granted, they look different, you shoot them slightly differently, but they have a similar effective range, shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion. They are all classified as archery equipment, so the simplest way to implement them would be for all archery equipment to be in archery season.

Dont try to use the late ML season tactic on me, because I feel that scoped inline MLs dont belong in the late season because their range is equal to and in alot of cases, superior to that of a slug gun. Late season should be kept to the types of MLs with shorter range, and/or iron sights only.

Why stop there?

If all archery equipment should be lumped together, then all firearms should be lumped together.  After all, they all "shoot similar projectiles using the same method of propulsion."  We just need to control the range differences....easy enough with a few new regs.

No need for any special MZ season, when we extend your logic.

So then do archery the same way as the gun seasons, like Culver is saying. Heres my proposal:

Archery season starts Oct1, all archery equipment allowed until the second Friday in Nov, then Primitive archery (longbows, recurves) only until the third Friday in Nov, at which time regular firearms starts, same as it is now, and then 1 week of primitive ML (Iron sights only) and archery after the regular season.

[Pat Rockets]

YAWN..all because of the introduction of the crossbow..cmon..get real

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Well that primitive bow at rut would also work as a kind of low pressure season splitter too....a lot of guys seem to be on favor of that

[Pat Rockets]

Some want to bring up fair chase..ok..heres a question..hows    it fair to hunt a buck durring rut..when we know hes at his most vulnerable?..crossbows havnt touched the scene yet and already the seasons arent good enough...wow..

[nyantler]

not nearly the scrutiny they have given crossbows

BECAUSE..... (everyone say it with me now).....crossbows are not the same as bows.

Even a child understands that they are different.

Hence the name.. crossBOW ... Other than its limbs, string, and arrows how could one possibly think it was a bow... wow that is odd : ...

[Pat Rockets]

Outlaw!

[arrowflinger]

So then do archery the same way as the gun seasons, like Culver is saying. Heres my proposal:

Archery season starts Oct1, all archery equipment allowed until the second Friday in Nov, then Primitive archery (longbows, recurves) only until the third Friday in Nov, at which time regular firearms starts, same as it is now, and then 1 week of primitive ML (Iron sights only) and archery after the regular season.

Perfect.  You have my full support.

[SteveB]

Simplier for me - 2 seasons - bow for all archery and gun for all gun.

[Pat Rockets]

Wow wny..you got the greenlight from arrow..its practicly gospel..

[WNYBuckHunter]

So then do archery the same way as the gun seasons, like Culver is saying. Heres my proposal:

Archery season starts Oct1, all archery equipment allowed until the second Friday in Nov, then Primitive archery (longbows, recurves) only until the third Friday in Nov, at which time regular firearms starts, same as it is now, and then 1 week of primitive ML (Iron sights only) and archery after the regular season.

Perfect.  You have my full support.

I dont even know what to say... ???

[Pat Rockets]

I do..sleep over

[WNYBuckHunter]

LMAO 

[Pat Rockets]