nybuckboy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I'm probably a sucker for this stuff but I am gonna try setting up a couple of Mock scrapes where I know other scrapes are generally found. I have watched a few vids on doing this and they usually include some preorbital scent on the over hang branch. I will use some a little interdigital, a little tarsal and dominate buck urine on the scrape and the preorbital on the branch. I can certainly can see that whatever you can do to make a dominant buck believe he has an intruder will really make him check back daily to see if the other son of a b*tch is around. I plan to dress this up once week until the season opens and then each time I hunt the stand dress it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Let us know how it works out. If you can setup a trail cam over the area, that would be need to see if anything visits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckstopshere Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I have, and I wasn't really pleased with the results. Is yours "store bought" or homemade. This season I am going to make my own. I was not happy with the results so far, but haven't really given it a fair test. I think you have to do it through a couple seasons to be fair. What has worked the best for me is cut an overhanging branch off another scrape and transport it in a clean garbage bag to the mock scrape and zip tie the cut branch to the branch over the mock scrape...and it doesn't hurt to use some frozen tarsals either! But I would really be interested in your findings! Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet old bill Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I have used buck lure to make mock scrapes and it sure works some times. I do suggest you make sure you use plastic gloves to keep man scent from your actions. I also put some of the scent on the hanging brace over the mock scrape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nybuckboy Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 All right... made 2 small scrapes at my one stand and roughed up a small tree as a rub. At the other stand about 200 yards up the ravine made another scrape and a rub. This is the stand where my 16 yo son will sit some. Put some preorbital on the overhanging branch and a little bit on the rub as well. A little dominant buck urine sprayed on the scrape and added a few drops of tarsal. Plan to dr. the sites once a week until the season and will hunt them opening day until 11am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I have made mock scrapes along deer trails and have pee'd in them . Then I have set up a trail cam . Deer have stopped to check it out . It sounds like BS but it works . I think they are just satisfying their curiousity . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Lol ....... who can really tell what's going through the minds of those silly goats? I don't think they really know what the heck they are doing themselves ;D . Human urine ...... deer urine ...... I don't suppose it really matters to them. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wonder if it's the Hazlenut flavoring or the Chlorophyll ........http://www.downsouthhuntingforums.com/images/smiles/crazynew2.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I wonder if it's the Hazlenut flavoring or the Chlorophyll ........http://www.downsouthhuntingforums.com/images/smiles/crazynew2.gif[/img] There ya go. It's the Chlorophyll for sure. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burmjohn Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Anyone remember in the movie Billy Madison, "Chlorophyll! More like borophyll!" http://www.reelwavs.com/movies/sounds/billy_madison/billy14.wav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Anyone remember in the movie Billy Madison, "Chlorophyll! More like borophyll!" http://www.reelwavs.com/movies/sounds/billy_madison/billy14.wav One of my favorites! "Suntan lotion is good for me, you protect me, tee hee hee!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutpile Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I use mock scrapes with good success. Most guys i know over do it when spraying stuff in a mock scrape. And remember you need an overhanging branch for the preorbital scent. I've seen plenty of guys make scrapes without having an overhanging branch dead giveaway something ain't kosher to the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 I have used mock scrapes for trail cams without the branch . Deer will stop , sniff and move along . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutpile Posted September 27, 2010 Share Posted September 27, 2010 That's the point use the preorbital overhead and the bucks will go apesheit over the fact there is an invader in his space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckstopshere Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 But not necessarily in my experience. Instead of going ape...he puts his tail between his legs and slinks away. Sometimes they seem to get intimidated and seem to shy away, especially some yearlings and 2.5 year olds. I have noticed that sometimes after experimenting with different store-bought scents, (and watching them with a trail cam) bucks will come in to the scrape, smell it, and act like they think about it for a minute. And then move off...after a while the scrape goes dead. I think we are only beginning to understand the complex scent messages at a scrape from the messages on the all important overhanging branch and to a lesser degree, the ground-based part of the scrape. Does are as important at scrapes as bucks. Scrapes are not just a buck thing anymore than sex is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nybuckboy Posted September 28, 2010 Author Share Posted September 28, 2010 The nice part is that both scrape sites are easily reached w/o much disturbance. My hope is that by doctoring the scrapes once a week, that by the time opening day comes around that the dominant buck is p*ssed off enough that he begins to check it a few times a day. I am hoping that opening day is a day he comes back to see if this "other" buck is around. I'm not concerned about the younger bucks being scared off. The one scrape site is about 50 yards down wind from where traditionally there have been other scrapes. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckstopshere Posted September 28, 2010 Share Posted September 28, 2010 Well best of luck. Sounds like a plan! Let us know what happens and post photos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutpile Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 I find that making a mock scrape a week or two before the rut(estrous) works out well. And once the does are in heat a little doe in estrous pee added can make the bucks nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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