sits in trees Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 What should really sadden you is the fact that you are lucky to have a hunting season at all in NY with that Nazi you have as Governor. Between Cumo and Bloomberg NY has become the anti-gun nut headquarters. We have close to a million hunters entering the NY woods every year, The NY hunting tradition is vibrant and strong and brings one billion dollars in revenue to this state every year. Not even Cuomo and Bloomberg would dare mess with that or would ever have a chance of stopping it. We shoot more and bigger deer in NY state than North Carolina could ever dream of. I also have over one million acres of state land to hunt in addition to my own here in NY. While states like yours look for ways to destroy wilderness with mining, fracking and amusement parks, NY is adding forever wild lands every year with over 100 thousand acres added just in the last few years. The only difference between NC and us NY'ers is we cant shoot our deer with AK-47s but we do pretty good with our bolt action rifles killing 1/2 million whitetails a year. Go and bash NY hunting on some we hate NY'ers site in North Carolina. Tire of this southern redneck jealous mentality. The south doesn't do everything better! actually they do almost everything worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 It should sadden you since the majority do have than opinion. that is your opinion. and please don't post that poll that was put out by the NYCC to prove otherwise. Why do bowhunter numbers keep climbing? What should really sadden you is the fact that you are lucky to have a hunting season at all in NY with that Nazi you have as Governor. Between Cumo and Bloomberg NY has become the anti-gun nut headquarters. this is bow season. we're not talking guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) I was speaking of DEC's poll. so it was a FACT. Edited September 16, 2013 by Culvercreek hunt club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 whatever, i'm too excited to start hunting then reopening a wound for an argument I no longer need to make. Polls obviously are always fact. Remember how accurate they are at predicting elections? happy hunting boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Huh,,, whats wrong? You call someone out (just my opinion?), they prove you are the one with your head up your arse and now it is "whatever"? I think it is best that you stay on the porch with the pups. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Typical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) stay on the porch with the pups? surveys aren't fact, I'm sure you learned this in grade school and possibly college and so I will chalk it up to a memory lapse. Citing surveys and referencing them is common in the technology world, but never can they be deemed "fact". oh and look here comes the big buck hunter to gang up, but with nothing to add but his post count. Edited September 16, 2013 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 survey are not facts. I agree but I stated the majority of NY hunters DO support the inclusiong and you seem to have had a problem with that. NYS DEC sees the results as "enough" of a fact that they included it as part of their 5 year plan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Oh and the results of a survey are facts. they may not be 100% accurate but if the results are outside the margin of error it is pretty safe. If you don't believe they results to be accurate why not get behind actually having a vote among license purchasers next year to settle this once and for all. if you are right and the majority don't want it then you should be right ont he band wagon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Ok I've stayed out of these Belo fests...but really? You pulled out the what ever....did you hold out your pinky finger when typing that....Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) NYS DEC sees the results as "enough" of a fact that they included it as part of their 5 year plan. a plan from the same great state which brought you such wonderful things as the safe act and other wonderful ideas Ok I've stayed out of these Belo fests...but really? You pulled out the what ever....did you hold out your pinky finger when typing that....Lol no useless threads from you this morning; so you stick your nose in here? It was my attempt to stop the 12 page crossbow thread from happening because right now we should all be excited for hunting season and actually be talking about? But if you want to all pile on, that's fine too. Edited September 16, 2013 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 You seem to see thie actions or inactions as fine when they suit your views or needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 listen. nothing will ever change my mind on crossbows, and nothing will ever change yours. like I said we can avoid the whole rehash right now if we just let bygones be bygones and agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnhu Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 (edited) listen. nothing will ever change my mind on crossbows, and nothing will ever change yours. like I said we can avoid the whole rehash right now if we just let bygones be bygones and agree to disagree. Huh, that's funny. You didn't seem to want bygones be bygones when it came to pulling me into your posts. Hypocritical much? X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems Edited September 16, 2013 by shawnhu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 But at the same time as belo says surveys done by the DEC shouldnt be used as facts, he spouts the nonsense that NYB posts up as if its the gospel. At least the DEC did surveys to come up with their numbers instead of pulling them out of thin air. I say the DEC should do a true survey, and add 5 questions when you buy your hunting license. You could use those numbers as fact, and even separate them between bow hunters, all season hunters and gun hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 no useless threads from you this morning; so you stick your nose in here? It This from a guy that uses the term what ever as a come back in a discussion....I don't think I'll sweat anything you say to what was a jk....my apologies that my jk hit one of your vital nerves...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimihat Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 My son just took his "Hunters Ed" this past weekend and both instructors said that the bill was extended... making Xbows still legal... but all my searches show they are not. either way, not a big deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I have not seen anything published confirming that. I wouldn't suggest anyone believe that until it is in writing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYBuckHunter Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 DEC site still says no dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblivitar Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Taking my wife to her hunters ed course this weekend in pleasant valley. I'll see if the guys giving the course there heard anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 (edited) Taking my wife to her hunters ed course this weekend in pleasant valley. I'll see if the guys giving the course there heard anything. my wife's taking hers right now. Almost 80 people she said. lots of youth and she was even surprised at how many girls were there. I think we're doing better as a sport then some people think at reaching the youth. Of course we can do better though. but i agree that i wouldn't take any statement from an instructor as fact until it's in the books. a little scary they're so out of the loop and potentially setting up new hunters for fines and penalties. Edited September 17, 2013 by Belo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblivitar Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Agreed. I wouldn't trust anything unless it was on paper but I'm still curious if they are gonna say anything about them at the class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 my wife's taking hers right now. Almost 80 people she said. lots of youth and she was even surprised at how many girls were there. I think we're doing better as a sport then some people think at reaching the youth. Of course we can do better though. but i agree that i wouldn't take any statement from an instructor as fact until it's in the books. a little scary they're so out of the loop and potentially setting up new hunters for fines and penalties. I wonder how many who take the course actually continue hunting after the first couple years, both my wife and daughter took the course and hunted until they got a deer, after that they were done.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Seasons Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 or how many never even start? Curious; why did they stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 or how many never even start? Curious; why did they stop? I guess shooting a deer really wasn't for them........that seemed to satisfy their curiosity and they were done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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