Dinsdale Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 30-30? Uhhhh. Them there boolits will bounce off the deer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad 6424 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Have both use both like both ever try 243 ??? good flat shooters and no kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 30-30 is a very good deer round. You made a good choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnumhunt Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 30-06 is my preference, killed first deer with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinsdale Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Lawdwaz, on 11 Oct 2013 - 06:57 AM, said:.243 Winchester is THE only way to go................................................. Yep.....if you want to start wearing a skirt. J/K.....don't get those frilly lace panties in a bunch you got on under the Carhartt's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Yep.....if you want to start wearing a skirt. J/K.....don't get those frilly lace panties in a bunch you got on under the Carhartt's. I heard that Larry goes COMMANDO under his Carharts... Just a rumor that was going around the beauty salon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
envo Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 I am a girl 5'6 and when I was picking out a rifle I decided on the .270 it is enjoyable to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 The .300 savage is near bottom of the totem poll in accuracy for a .300, couldn't even hold the jock strap of a .300 wby mag. Facts are facts. What "facts" have you seen that list CALIBERS by accuracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pygmy Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 What "facts" have you seen that list CALIBERS by accuracy? Yeah...I'd be interested in seeing that " FACT" list also... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I had a 300 Savage that could stack shots on top of each other at 150yds. 200+ yards...magnums would probably win the accuracy game. But in real life deer hunting situations (for most people) the 300 Savage is a great round. I wish I never sold mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 180 grain comparison: .300 savage = 2,350 ft/sec, 1,728 ft/sec @ 200yds .300 WBY Mag = 3,120 ft/sec, 2,866 ft/sec @ 200 yards Would you like the major differences at 100, 200, 300, 400 yards, etc? The .300 savage has like double the drop in inches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Biz, That is ballistic information and NOT accuracy information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Biz, That is ballistic information and NOT accuracy information. Say you can only sight in your gun once and had to shoot at 50 yards, 100 yds, 150yds, 200 yds, 250yds, 300yds, 350yds, and 400yds with both guns. which gun would you shoot better with? The .300 savage with its 30"+ drop? lol. You would be way more accurate across the board with the .300 WBY Mag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampotter Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Say you can only sight in your gun once and had to shoot at 50 yards, 100 yds, 150yds, 200 yds, 250yds, 300yds, 350yds, and 400yds with both guns. which gun would you shoot better with? The .300 savage with its 30"+ drop? lol. You would be way more accurate across the board with the .300 WBY Mag. Well, sure but everyone else is talking pure accuracy: how well a gun can group bullets not what the trajectory is. A 50 BMG will be more accurate than your 300 at 1000 meters but accuracy has a lot less to do with caliber than the specific gun. Even 2 of the same caliber guns made by the best custom gunsmith will have accuracy differences. Heck, even the same gun with a newer barrel will shoot more accurately. On top of that- different ammunition through the same barrel be more accurate than others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 That ballistic information does NOT equate to accuracy at any range. Put both guns in a vice and use a remote trigger pull. which ever gun tossed the best group REGARDLESS of the amount of drop IS the most accurate GUN. Having less drop at 400 yards that another caliber with a larger center to center grouping means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 That ballistic information does NOT equate to accuracy at any range. Put both guns in a vice and use a remote trigger pull. which ever gun tossed the best group REGARDLESS of the amount of drop IS the most accurate GUN. Having less drop at 400 yards that another caliber with a larger center to center grouping means nothing. If you did this test, the .300 wby mag would score better than the .300 savage. I have no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thphm Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I completely understand what you're saying and it is something i should consider but when i said i was choosing the 30-30 it was not due to the caliber it was just because i have shot and used a marlin 336 before and i honestly fell in love with it but initially i didnt want to choose that rifle because my uncle and grandfather both have it... After talking them and joking around a bit we all decided that if i like that rifle and it is one of the rifles that they have used and still do than i its what i want then i should get it. It came away from decidin on what caliber than a rifle and bought that most of those caliber a can all get the job done so i should pick a rifle than caliber. I do appreciate the point you made though Good choice for a young fellow and his first rifel,That was my first also and bought one for my son and he got his first deer with it.A group we hunted with one of the fellowes used that rifle and caliber got his deer every year with it and I have seen him drop a good size adult doe at 100 yards with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 By the way, do they even make the .300 savage anymore? Only did a quick search, but can't find anything. Did they discontinue this model? if so, why? Why would they discontinue such a great shooting cheap piece of junk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I mentioned the .300 sav with less recoil in mind for a smaller shooter. I'm biased just because we have one in the family. It was my grandfather's. As the story goes they bought 3 that day. he picked the one in .300 sav because it was a "flat shooter" vs the other 2 that were .30-06. I forgot the thread title was .30-06 vs .270. Sorry 'bout that. Biz, I know you wear Weatherby underoos, but I found you these. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELMER J. FUDD Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Cheer up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ants Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 180 grain comparison: .300 savage = 2,350 ft/sec, 1,728 ft/sec @ 200yds .300 WBY Mag = 3,120 ft/sec, 2,866 ft/sec @ 200 yards Would you like the major differences at 100, 200, 300, 400 yards, etc? The .300 savage has like double the drop in inches. Nope...just saying that the 300 savage is a damn good, non magnum deer round round out to the 150- 200 yard range. Magnum rounds are a different story. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjb4900 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 By the way, do they even make the .300 savage anymore? Only did a quick search, but can't find anything. Did they discontinue this model? if so, why? Why would they discontinue such a great shooting cheap piece of junk? the same reason some feel the need to try and get crossbows into archery season, I can only imagine the damage a magnum cartridge can inflict on an already fragile body...........how's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If you did this test, the .300 wby mag would score better than the .300 savage. I have no doubt. How on earth can you know that? Do you understand the simple difference between ballistics and accuracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 How on earth can you know that? Do you understand the simple difference between ballistics and accuracy? yes, but not all guns are made equal and everyone knows that. Just like cars. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BizCT Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 the same reason some feel the need to try and get crossbows into archery season, I can only imagine the damage a magnum cartridge can inflict on an already fragile body...........how's that? That's the reason they stopped making a 300 savage? Odd. Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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