Looks like the NRA can lose.

[jimbodwb]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/05/michael-bloomberg-nra-wins_n_779468.html

[Doc]

It would be interesting to see just how NRA backed candidates stacked up against their opponents from an unbiased source that was not quite so much of a pinko origin. You really have to look in some very select sources to find a story of this sort.....lol. When you consider just how many candidates there are across the country that the NRA issued opinions on, it is no real trick to cherry-pick a handful of races that didn't go the NRA's way and try to make a big story out of that.

Doc

[Mr VJP]

No real story here.  You think every NRA endorsed candidate wins every election?  If that were the case, the entire congress would be filled with NRA endorsed officials.

Too bad the electorate is so stupid.  It would be nice to see the NRA's message embraced by more voters.

[Mr VJP]

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said that although some races are  still being decided, the group made a total of 262 endorsements in  House races and 225 of those candidates won.

[Doc]

NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam said that although some races are  still being decided, the group made a total of 262 endorsements in  House races and 225 of those candidates won.

I guess it might be pretty hard for the liberal press to spin that statistic ...... lol.

Doc

[raymerlo]

There are approx.13.5 million voters in NYS,under aprrox. 4 million voted in the past election,where were the other 9.5 million registerd voters,

then look at our ranks the so called sportsmen and women,look at this and other outdoor sites and see all the pissing and moaning about having no place to hunt and the regulations that we have to abide by,look at our DEC

do you think that they would have tried to close the pheasant farm and now laying off all the dec people,they take us for granted if we all would write letters and stay on top of our lawmakers,remember they make laws not repeal them and they work for us,we put them in and we can take them out,but we,all of us have to particapate,remember we pay for our license,s and general taxes,the general public just pays general taxes

[Doc]

There are approx.13.5 million voters in NYS,under aprrox. 4 million voted in the past election,where were the other 9.5 million registerd voters,

then look at our ranks the so called sportsmen and women,look at this and other outdoor sites and see all the pissing and moaning about having no place to hunt and the regulations that we have to abide by,look at our DEC

do you think that they would have tried to close the pheasant farm and now laying off all the dec people,they take us for granted if we all would write letters and stay on top of our lawmakers,remember they make laws not repeal them and they work for us,we put them in and we can take them out,but we,all of us have to particapate,remember we pay for our license,s and general taxes,the general public just pays general taxes

I think it is probably a good accurate thought to assume that sportsmen and women in general are not joiners or activists or have any particular interest in the politics of hunting, fishing and trapping. It takes something quite radical to get a rise out of the sporting community. Most of the issues don't rise to that level of actual concern.

As far as the DEC layoffs and other cost cutting measures, I don't believe the DEC is the actual driving force behind those actions. Their actions are the results, not the cause. Check out the state politicians if you are looking to assign blame for resource changes in the DEC.

Doc

[nyantler]

I agree Doc..  its the truth that most outdoorsman are the "shut up and hunt" type and we all are too busy enjoying ourselfs to get caught up in the crap. I am defintiely not the activist type.. rather be enjoying the hunting , or fishing while I have my time on earth.

[First-light]

Never been a member and probably will never be.

[raymerlo]

This is for burt,we need people like you like we need more holes in our head,guy's like you are part of the problem,piss and moan at the club or saloon,but won;t lift a finger to particapate,let the other guy's do it

[Doc]

There's no way I can claim to be an activist on gun and hunting issues. However, as a bare minimum of commitment to gun ownership and hunting, I do maintain membership in some of the leading organizations. I may not always agree with the leadership of these organizations, but 100% agreement is not really a requirement. What is a requirement in my mind is that I am counted somewhere on somebody's membership roles, and offer my name as a supporter of hunting and gun ownership. That support to the NRA by myself and the other members, I believe, is the sole reason that we enjoy the gun freedoms that we have today. My membership and my few dollars of membership fees have been the only force that has turned back the Kennedys, Boxers, Fienstiens, Bradys, Schumers and all the others who are equally organized and financed and dedicated to burying the 2nd Amendment and all other gun ownership rights.

Yes, we can let others do the heavy lifting for us and reap the benefits of their money, time and activities. But my small level of support is all they have ever asked and it really is a fairly painless thing to do. I have never been pressured to get involved in anything other than my membership. It seems to me that if I really believe in these rights, that's the least I can do. I just wouldn't feel right doing any less.

[Mr VJP]

I've said this before, and will continue to say it....

If You're Not NRA, You're Nothing!

No one hunts with me, or on my land, unless he is an active NRA member.

If not for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns at all.  Any derogatory remarks against the NRA should only be coming from the anti-gun side, not from our side.  If a gun owner tells me he is anti-NRA, there is gonna be a fight!

[raymerlo]

On Jan.25th,there will be a Sportsmen&Outdoor Recreation Legislative Awareness day in Albany

It will be held at the Legislatve Office building in the well from 9:00 am to 1:00 pm

Wayne LaPierre will be the key note speaker and many other guests,last year there were over 3000

people attended,lets beat that this year,if you have never been to the Albany LOB it,s worth the trip

come and see your tax dollars at work

[Mr VJP]

Too bad it's a Tuesday.  More people would come if they could take off from work.

[sandman256]

My NRA Life Membership has given me more information on upcoming legislation to keep me informed enough to be active enough to contact my congress persons to let them know I am watching which way they have voted.  It is people that only sit back and piss and moan at the bar or club meetings that allow the antis to slowly take away our 2nd. Amendment rights or just fun to hunt or fish.

[raymerlo]

Just to let you know,Grannis is back as the new deputy comptroller under DiNapoli,politics NY style,don't forget to write to your state reps also pertaining to gun control and fish and wild life issues,get involved with your state organizations also,stick with this site has a lot of info going back and forth

[bubba]

I've said this before, and will continue to say it....

If You're Not NRA, You're Nothing!

No one hunts with me, or on my land, unless he is an active NRA member.

If not for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns at all.  Any derogatory remarks against the NRA should only be coming from the anti-gun side, not from our side.  If a gun owner tells me he is anti-NRA, there is gonna be a fight!

so what do you consider an active member?  somene who pays dues for the year or lifetime makes them active?  Seems to me it just makes tham paying a fee to say they belong.

[raymerlo]

NY comptroller DiNapoli hires ex-DEC head Grannis

The Associated Press • January 1, 2011

ALBANY, N.Y. — The former head of New York's Department of Environmental Conservation has landed a new state government job with the help of a longtime colleague.

Former Democratic Assemblyman Pete Grannis, who was fired from Gov. David Paterson's administration in October, has named to a $165,000-a-year job as first deputy comptroller in the office of Comptroller Thomas DiNapoli, another ex-Assemblyman and fellow Democrat.

DiNapoli won election in November after being appointed by the Legislature to replace the disgraced Alan Hevesi in 2007.

Grannis was ousted from the DEC after an agency memo critical of Paterson budget cuts was leaked.

DiNapoli announced the appointment Friday.

To open the spot, first deputy Mary Louise Mallick will move to a $162,000 job as senior policy advisor. Both moves take effect Jan. 20.

[Caveman]

I've said this before, and will continue to say it....

If You're Not NRA, You're Nothing!

No one hunts with me, or on my land, unless he is an active NRA member.

If not for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns at all.  Any derogatory remarks against the NRA should only be coming from the anti-gun side, not from our side.  If a gun owner tells me he is anti-NRA, there is gonna be a fight!

A bit of an extremist attitude.  I am currently a member but there was a three month period where I didn't renew my membership.  They annoy me like a swarm of mosquitoes on a summer night.  Every week it seems I get something in the mail begging for more money.  I feel like I'm in a Catholic Church sometimes. (No offense to the Catholics)

"If you're not NRA you're nothing!" is a bit extreme don't you think?

[nyantler]

I've said this before, and will continue to say it....

If You're Not NRA, You're Nothing!

No one hunts with me, or on my land, unless he is an active NRA member.

If not for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns at all.  Any derogatory remarks against the NRA should only be coming from the anti-gun side, not from our side.  If a gun owner tells me he is anti-NRA, there is gonna be a fight!

so what do you consider an active member?  somene who pays dues for the year or lifetime makes them active?  Seems to me it just makes tham paying a fee to say they belong.

maybe so, but thats the mininum requirement to be an "active" member.. pay the dues. Members of gun clubs do it all the time..pay their membership and you never see them.. they are still active members with voting rights. The fact that they are a member shows their support which IMO constitutes being active.

[jimbodwb]

If not for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns at all. 

I completely disagree. Without the second amendment we would not have guns. The NRA has nothing to do with my ability to own my guns. If I had a fully automatic assault rifle with a 30 round clip then you could say the NRA had something to do with my guns. I don't believe anyone should own a fully automatic rifle. There is no use or need for one. No one in the US is gonna change the SECOND AMENDMENT. No one will ever gain enough power to pass any legislation banning guns. You can all have your crazy conspiracy theories about it and the NRA will continue to profit from you.

[nyantler]

You are sadly mistaken.. and I hope that there doesn't have to come a time when we say to you.."I told you so"

[jimbodwb]

I have never seen anyone trying to take away hunting rifles and shotguns. They want to ban fully automatic weapons and 30 round clips for handguns and I see nothing wrong with that. No one needs those things anyway.

[Mr VJP]

I have never seen anyone trying to take away hunting rifles and shotguns. They want to ban fully automatic weapons and 30 round clips for handguns and I see nothing wrong with that. No one needs those things anyway.

Where in the 2nd Amendment does it say you can only bear arms you need?  Who decides need?  Remember the LA riots?  Remember the guy who saved his store from hoods because he was standing on the roof, ALONE, with an AK-47 and a 30 round magazine?  I think he was in need of it, don't you?  Most of the businesses there were looted and burned to the ground.

The current assault weapons bills are written so they can ban plenty of hunting rifles.  Maybe you have never read them.  Look at England.  You can't own any type of semi-auto rifle or shotgun there.  That's what anti gunners want here.

If the sheet ever hits the fan in America because terrorists set off a nuke in NYC and all hell breaks lose in the country, you will soon see the need for 30 round magazines and semi-auto weapons.  There will be marauding packs of gang members in the streets taking anything they want from anyone who doesn't have one, I can assure you of that.  Full auto would be better, but good luck with getting one.  But don't worry the authorities will have plenty of full auto weapons that they can use against you at that time.

No one in America needs a JAP race bike that will do 180 MPH or a Z06 Corvette either, especially when speed limits don't exceed 70 MPH.  Should we ban those too?

I'll decide what I need, thank you.  That's called freedom!  If you were an NRA member and read the information they send out to keep you informed about anti gun measures, maybe you wouldn't have such a cavalier attitude about what gun owners need in America.

And if you think the 2nd Amendment is all you need to keep your guns, be advised, the 2nd Amendment can be repealed!  Don't think it never happened before.  Remember prohibition?

Gun owners who don't think they are threatened, or who feel more bans are OK, or who don't like the NRA are, in my extremist view, nothing!  And they are sure as heck no use to me, or any gun owner who cares about freedom.  Either they are too scared to fight, or don't even know they are in one.

[Caveman]

You say the NRA sends you information to keep you informed on the issues...I think it's to keep you scared so you'll keep sending them money.  The NRA is a business first and foremost and they make a very good profit.  It's like a labor union.  They exploit the little guy who honestly thinks he's being helped while the fat cats who run the organization sit back and line their pockets.