Doe in heat????

[Jason118]

I live in the village of penfield. Watched a spike and a six tend to a doe for a hr today. Found it surprising that both still had full racks and more surprising they were tending to her. We have many deer that show up (supporting the governors 150' rule) but only bucks when a doe is in heat. Every indication that she was. I had the iPhone switched to video for a hr waiting for the mount up, waiting for some deer porn! Lol. Anyone ever witness this in mid February before?? ~~~~~if some one can tell me how to post pics I'll post some

[Four Season Whitetail's]

I live in the village of penfield. Watched a spike and a six tend to a doe for a hr today. Found it surprising that both still had full racks and more surprising they were tending to her. We have many deer that show up (supporting the governors 150' rule) but only bucks when a doe is in heat. Every indication that she was. I had the iPhone switched to video for a hr waiting for the mount up, waiting for some deer porn! Lol. Anyone ever witness this in mid February before?? ~~~~~if some one can tell me how to post pics I'll post some

Was she a good sized fawn?   We have had some deer porn going on here for the last month or so. 80lbs fawns and up and healthy will come in and get bred late. This is late though for a wild deer. July,August born fawns have a tougher time going into their first winter.

 

Would love to see the pic's   Maybe you could text them to one of the Mod's on here and they could post them for us!!

[Jason118]

[Jason118]

[Jason118]

some of our regular visitors

[Geno C]

this supposedly DOES happen. I watched an episode of D&DH and they said a doe can be bred in the season. It is possible that she wont take, its possible she can cycle again January time. She can be bred, come February she wont take and cycle again. Deer have been known to fight over cycling does even with out head gear.  I was speaking about this last year around the same time and some thought i was crazy. just last week i have been trying to find the video and post it of that episode but can not find it. i am almost positive it is Season 8 Episode 9 "Hot Doe"

 

they covered all of this and it was VERY interesting stuff... if someone can find it i am pretty sure that was the season and episode

[Jason118]

in this photo she is laying down just like she is being tended to. I pay attention to their movements, kinda like having a deer education class out the back door. Anyways I've never had one lay down before. Kept waiting for the magic to happen!

[Arrow Flinger]

Watch the first few minutes of this video. He talks about a study the NYSDEC did. Some does are bred in March!

[Jason118]

Wow great information in that Vid!

[First-light]

Let me get this straight a buck needs horns to breed???? That is a

what he said. Now I do believe that the breeding cycle happens Oct-Feb but do they really need horns to breed? LOL Good video thanks

for posting.

Oh man didn't realize that was Peter Feduccia he sold me those orange pre-fab horns 20 years ago all about rattling in NY. Wow he is still at it.

Edited February 10, 2014 by First-light

[Jason118]

I thought that was odd also. My father swears he had one that already dropped trying to compete for a doe with another buck late season once on the farm. But the sept-March and the whole eye gland thing was very interesting

[Geno C]

No thy don't need horns to breed... bucks will breed late cycling does regardless. If a doe cycles those instincts come out again in the bucks and they can and will breed those doe.

That episode shows how bucks even after they shed those horns will find ways to fight for breeding rights to breed that doe.

[growalot]

I have seen this and it's happening here now...complete with brand new rubs and scrapes...I have also talked about fawns dropping way early (late winter) and surviving and if you look at a few pics I've put up lately...... we have at least one very small fawn that was a late drop from last summer....That fawn was carrying spots last fall..

[Arrow Flinger]

Let me get this straight a buck needs horns to breed???? That is a

what he said. Now I do believe that the breeding cycle happens Oct-Feb but do they really need horns to breed? LOL Good video thanks

for posting.

Oh man didn't realize that was Peter Feduccia he sold me those orange pre-fab horns 20 years ago all about rattling in NY. Wow he is still at it.

 

I think what happens is what makes them drop their horns is a drop in testosterone. This drop in testosterone makes it so they cant breed. Of course, there are exceptions to every rule.

[Jason118]

I've read (tonight) that there is many factors all basically linked to the testosterone idea.Over abundance of doe , basically having them still going in heat, young bucks, good food and and all around a non stressed environment will keep antlers. Older ones seem to drop first, no does going into heat, scarce food sources etc etc. will lead to earlier sheds. Now I'm sure there can be found contradictions of this somewhere on the internet but In any case it was a interesting Sunday afternoon ;-)

[Doc]

I don't know, but is it possible that the antlerless bucks that appear to be breeding does is simply going through the motions without actually completing the deed? I mean, I have seen button bucks attempt to mount does, but I doubt they really had any success.

[sampotter]

Just because a buck this time of year has lower testosterone levels doesn't mean he can't get the job done. If the opportunity falls in their lap they're going to make the most of it. They're not dead!

[Doc]

At some point, they must reach a point where they either don't have the ability or they don't have the interest. I don't know exactly what drives that, but it could be something to do with testosterone levels. If so, that may very well mean that "he can't get the job done".

[sampotter]

Very few wild bucks reach the age where they would need a blue pill. Decreased testosterone will lower their libido and sperm count but they'll still be able to "git 'r done". My brother's dog found a newborn fawn on August 31st one year.

[Doc]

Very few wild bucks reach the age where they would need a blue pill. Decreased testosterone will lower their libido and sperm count but they'll still be able to "git 'r done". My brother's dog found a newborn fawn on August 31st one year.

Are those kinds of pills blue? I've never actually seen one .... lol.

 

An August birth? That is one freaky thing. Somebody got their calendar messed up.

[moog5050]

Jason

 

Is that the creek area that passes under Liberty Street.  I live in Penfield and drive through there to work everyday.  Just curious if I am accurate.  Not like you can hunt it anyways.

[Jason118]

Close but no, just the other side of 441 on five mile line.

Edited February 13, 2014 by Jason118

[Hardcore]

I am pretty sure that breeding does will continue to come into estrous every 28 days until she is bred....as far as bucks needing antlers to procreate....I do not know....but come on guys...even if we aren't in the mood it doesn't take much pressure to get us in the mood....I gotta assume a buck as a male wouldn't be too far off....lol

[RangerClay]

Watch the first few minutes of this video. He talks about a study the NYSDEC did. Some does are bred in March!

 

Thanks for sharing this link.  I've been typing out all the details of that study on posts like this.  Now I can just share the link.

[Pygmy]

Are those kinds of pills blue? I've never actually seen one .... lol.

 

An August birth? That is one freaky thing. Somebody got their calendar messed up.

BRAGGART....!!... <<grin>>....

 

Yes, they are BLUE and Diamond shaped...

 

Of course, I'VE never seen one either.... <<  roll eyes >>.....