Natural bait Vs Live bait

[UpstateNomad90]

Dumb question and I expect there will be laughs and all that, But lately someone I fish with stated worms were a live bait and can not be used on water ways that ban the use. I always thought worms were considered a natural bait and can be used anywhere. I have looked over the DEC site and can not seem to find anything. Can someone guide me in the right direction without too much laughing. Thank you in advanced.

[ATbuckhunter]

Im guessing natural bait would be things like gulp and other scented soft plastics. 

[UpstateNomad90]

Just to verify, are you agreeing that it is a live bait?

[ncountry]

I am fairly certain , worms(live ones,not plastic) are considered live bait.

[wdswtr]

Your pal is correct, sort of,  there are areas on streams and rivers that are posted as artificial lures only.  I think it was more of a "reserved" type area for flyfisherman without saying flyfishing only and not to tick of the mono guys. Lots of these artificial lure only areas are also catch and release only areas. 

Edited July 30, 2014 by wdswtr

[ATbuckhunter]

I don't say that I agree really. Natural bait is different then live bait. 

[UpstateNomad90]

So what if the wording is no live bait? We are doing a back country camping/fishing trip and I just want to be within the law, I am thinking a call to DEC is needed but figured I would ask here first. 

[wdswtr]

http://www.dec.ny.gov/regs/4021.html

[wdswtr]

look up on the NYDEC website the streams and area you plan on fishing.  There are detailed maps of the ones regulated with each section marked accordingly to the regulations on that water.  If its not listed where your going you would follow regular fishing regulations also on the website.

[UpstateNomad90]

Thanks for all your help, Looks like lures for me this weekend. 

[Doc]

I'm thinking that where "live bait" is prohibited, what they are trying to do is differentiate from artificial lures (spoons, spinners, flys, jigs, etc.). I also think that when they say "live bait", they are also including dead bait that was once alive in that term .... lol.

[Lawdwaz]

Im guessing natural bait would be things like gulp and other scented soft plastics.

Those things would be artificial bait. I would think "natural bait" would be another term for "live bait", yes?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Salted minnows can not be used in an "artificial only" area but it relieves you of the requirements for "certified bait" because they are dead and prepared.