Any advice to keep poachers off your land?

[Culvercreek hunt club]

We'll try this again... I apparently wasn't specific enough?

And within the legal confines the people with the spot lights or just driving down the road looking are all legal too. Only one way to stop it and that is to screen it. bitch all you want about a LEGAL activity, but until it is made illegal you are doing nothing but causing yourself stress.

So there are a few options.

screen it

ignore it

lobby to get it changed (spotlighting, because you can't stop some one from looking)

or just bitch bout it.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

We'll try this again... I apparently wasn't specific enough?

family members can be younger that the state youth requirement

but I believe they must have passed the hunters education course.

[JGS]

The answer to your question, yes, because that would be something that was legally mine.  I paid for it, it was not there until I put it there, and it will not walk off my property under its own power.  Again if someone drives by during the day and stops to look at a deer on your land would you be upset?

As far as the spooning, if I want to do that inside my living room I have every right to do that as well, but if I leave the curtains open and someone drives by and sees, then I feel sorry for that unlucky soul, but it is what it is.  Nothing illegal or immoral done by that driver.

[growalot]

I do agree with that Culver....for 8 years as my pines grew I heard every year...God I can't see what in your feild as well anymore those damn pines...I had ppl threaten to cut them...so I now grow corn behind them...they finally got the point..eventually I'l have a tall bush growing infront of them so I can for go the corn.....

Really?? you want to bitch at me about your being noisy and my squashing it...it's like the guys that tresspass and bitch at me for catching them...forget the sign ...here's your fence...twit

[JGS]

We'll try this again... I apparently wasn't specific enough?

 

Oh ...BTW if you own a farm  you do not need a small game license inorder to hunt small game and I believe...for it was a news paper article that bugged me ...so I investigated it...(infact theres a thread on here somewhere discussing this)...family members can be younger that the state youth requirement

That is intersting, I've never heard or read that before.  Is this tucked away in the game laws somewhere?  Just wondering because I'm 99% sure it isn't in the gen reg guides.

[JGS]

I do agree with that Culver....for 8 years as my pines grew I heard every year...God I can't see what in your feild as well anymore those damn pines...I had ppl threaten to cut them...so I now grow corn behind them...they finally got the point..eventually I'l have a tall bush growing infront of them so I can for go the corn.....

Really?? you want to bitch at me about your being noisy and my squashing it...it's like the guys that tresspass and bitch at me for catching them...forget the sign ...here's your fence...twit

Not bitching, just pointing out that you have no control or say over what people look at when they drive down the road.  I agree 100% that if you catch someone tresspassing there should never be any lee way given, I agree.  

[growalot]

UNTIL he puts a spot light on you...and yes as you may see in the above post...I do get peeved at ppl stopping in the middle of the road we live on, to gawk at deer...and more than a few, have had me walk up and ask them to move on...one thing leads to another...

Like the guy with his kid that drove by me at the mail box...down the hill stopped, got out of his car, jumped my culvert to call turkey on my land...he couldn't get back in his car fast enough ...or the guy that while I stood at the corner of my fence...stopped got out of his car ran down the fence line snapping pictures of the goats WTH!! I am posted every 60 ft...are they freaking blind?...I'm not a small person...but some people think the world owes them every thing...I owe no one anything and what is mine is most certainly not yours...I do not go around gawking and spot lighting ...harrassing ppls live stock..I love the ones that stopped to bleat at the goats or people that have some compulstion to moo at farmers cows and bahh at the sheep...even having the nerve to feed them...it boggles my mind....

[growalot]

I do agree with that Culver....for 8 years as my pines grew I heard every year...God I can't see what in your feild as well anymore those damn pines...I had ppl threaten to cut them...so I now grow corn behind them...they finally got the point..eventually I'l have a tall bush growing infront of them so I can for go the corn.....

Really?? you want to bitch at me about your being noisy and my squashing it...it's like the guys that tresspass and bitch at me for catching them...forget the sign ...here's your fence...twit

[growalot]

Thank you Culver for that addition....

 

Posted Today, 01:02 PM

growalot, on 31 Oct 2014 - 1:55 PM, said:

We'll try this again... I apparently wasn't specific enough?

family members can be younger that the state youth requirement

but I believe they must have passed the hunters education course.

 

[growalot]

JGS..Oh please let me enlighten you.....Read carefully it is under EXCEPTIONS

 

http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/hunting/general-license-information/

 

Edited October 31, 2014 by growalot

[JGS]

And that's fine, if they get out of their car and harass your animals or step foot on your property, then believe me, I think they deserve even more than a talking to.  That would also be incredibly frustrating and mind boggling to me also.  All I'm saying is you have no right to tell other people what they can and connot do on a public road if it does not affect your property in any way.  Think of it this way, I hate when people ride their bikes in traffic, however, I have no authority or right to tell them to get the * out of the way if they are using the road legally.

[JGS]

JGS..Oh please let me enlighten you.....Read carefully it is under EXCEPTIONS

 

http://www.eregulations.com/newyork/hunting/general-license-information/

Well no sh*t, thank you, never seen that one before, guess i skipped over it, good to know.

[growalot]

Thats true for many ppl but the yahoos that stop here...are stopping on the crest of a very steep hill that for what ever reason, none of us can figure out, is extremely busy...So busy infact out in the middle of no where and they put speed limit signs of 35mph.......it is a hazard...one that my neighbors,the school bus drive,dilivery ppl and family should and will not have to worry about.

[JGS]

Agreed, should never have to worry about unnecessary dangers.  Serious question, do you know what the DEC's definition of cultivating is?  i.e. land within a farm or only in crops?

Edited October 31, 2014 by JGS

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Agreed, should never have to worry about unnecessary dangers.  Serious question, do you know what the DEC's definition of cultivating is?  i.e. land within a farm or only in crops?

Hey, JGS. no worries. your pot field qualifies

[JGS]

Hey, JGS. no worries. your pot field qualifies

I wish!!! j/k never touch the stuff! But seriously I'm just wondering if this was written in for farmers to protect crops or some other reason.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Nah, just cant own 50 acres for recreational use and fall under the "not needing a license" clause. I am betting you had better have live stock or be able to prove you are growing a crop....a legal crop.

[Elmo]

In response to earlier statement, no poaching from me.  My bow is in a case and my arrows are in a separate case.  I'm just trying to figure out after a day of pressuring the deer if the deer are being pushed out into private property or pushed further into the public land so I can adjust accordingly.  Of course if I see all the deer have since moved into private property it would be time to give up on that spot and move to another.

[landtracdeerhunter]

Folks, it's all about out judicial system. Want to lower the trespassing rate, raise the fines, raise the penalties. Hit them where it counts, right in the pocket book! Right now, it's not working!

Edited November 1, 2014 by landtracdeerhunter

[First-light]

Keep poachers off your land……You make an example out of one of them and then keep up the pressure and the chatter. We (I should say my neighbor) has been doing this for years. You let everyone know at all times of the year if caught poaching and trespassing  in and around your property they will be arrested. You also have to be willing to stop and ask questions, take pictures of backlogs and whatever else needs to be done. Basically make a name for yourself and get a reputation that no one will mess with. Don't give an inch and be a pain in the ass and they won't come calling.

[Huntscreek]

Poaching is illegal, Trespassing is Illegal, Spotlighting is not illegal but if they are closer than 500ft from your home Yes Having a weapon in the Truck or Car Yes. I personally don't like Spot lighting because to me its disturbing the deer that with proper scouting you would know what's going on in the woods your hunting ,spot lighting for miles around is not scouting its BS. Like some of the guys said here you will have to start being harder than posted signs, See spot lighting call it in let the police check & hassle them if there poaching they will find the gun or at least ticket them. If you catch one on your land write down there back tag numbers if they won't stick around Call it in as Trespassing. Make it known that if you come around your area be where you should and you will see Spot lighting stop or at least slow down. Word spreads fastest this way more than a Posted Sign.

Edited November 1, 2014 by Huntscreek

[thunnus]

Folks, it's all about out judicial system. Want to lower the trespassing rate, raise the fines, raise the penalties. Hit them where it counts, right in the pocket book! Right now, it's not working!

He's right the penalty is a small fraction of the taxes.

Suspending a hunting license for a few years ought to hurt

[growalot]

 

Posted Yesterday, 11:53 PM

In response to earlier statement, no poaching from me.  My bow is in a case and my arrows are in a separate case.  I'm just trying to figure out after a day of pressuring the deer if the deer are being pushed out into private property or pushed further into the public land so I can adjust accordingly.  Of course if I see all the deer have since moved into private property it would be time to give up on that spot and move to another.

 

Elmo ...no disrespect but that make no scense to me...if the deer at the end of the night have moed to privatelands thenthose are usually what there night runs would be made up of...then at dawn they'd be moving back tothe daily routine....Well that is what I see here and the pressure here with several ppl from every property being a hunter and of that 90% both bow and gun

[PREDATE]

Some good advice thus far, although the OPs case might differ in that he may not have trees to attach signs to. I am fortunate enough to have tree lined property and even go so far as placing 2 signs at a time. Sure someone may rip down one sign, but that same tard feels like an idiot when he/she looks up and sees the other sign that I installed with a 24' extension ladder.

As far as spotlighting, that is totally different than "jacklighting". I often take my nephews out in late summer to look at deer. I maintain 500' from dwellings and never shine pastures. That being said, no person (even law enforcement) may harrass me to move my vehicle on a public roadway or to extinguish my light.

Shining a light on a free roaming deer is not harrassment. Deer don't look at the sun and wig out from it, they simply turn their heads.

The "mine mine mine - me me me" complex seems to bite everyone nowadays. For example, you make a report on or harrass someone lawfully lighting a field and next thing troopers are hauling you to the clink.

Edited November 1, 2014 by PREDATE

[growalot]

For example, you make a report on or harrass someone lawfully lighting a field and next thing troopers are hauling you to the clink.

 

 

highly doubtful in areas that have had "jack lighting" occurr or even robberies...which is the case here...lights are shined to spot vehicals in this area...because all of our homes are set so far back into the woods...