Boar Hunting in Hancock

[Curmudgeon]

I can't believe some think feral boar would be a good thing for NY. Sort of like genital herpes is a good thing. Those whores in Bangkok could help out there.

Edited November 24, 2014 by Curmudgeon

[Four Season Whitetail's]

wild Boar can & do thrive in cold climates. We have wild pigs here in NH

stated in a preserve & over the years a lot have escaped luckily hunters have kept them under control.

quite a few years ago one was shot over 75 miles north of the preserve & roughly 1 hour from the Canadian boarder

Good post to prove my point..Are they tearing up NH..I think not....Did they breed numbers like in the south..I think not...  Hunters kept them under control you say? So is there a season or is there a bounty? Is it a state mandated kill on sight? 

Point being..they have been around for years and have not grown in numbers like some of the pig( and now Wolf..LMFAO) experts we have on this site.. Some of you should make money with all this knowledge you have stored up!

Edited November 24, 2014 by Four Season Whitetails

[gfdeputy2]

Um yes they have torn up a lot of neighborhoods in NH as soon as word gets out there are tons of hunters on their trail the reason they have not exploded in population is they are killed quickly & the park has spent a boat load of money to reinforce their fencing & is now patrolled around the clock

"Some of you should make money with all this knowledge you have stored up!"

And Really do you have to be an ass all the time?

I was pointing out the fact that they do live & can survive in Cold climates

State wants nothing to do with them NO closed season Park says kill on site as they have had to pay a ton in damage their pigs have done

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Um yes they have torn up a lot of neighborhoods in NH as soon as word gets out there are tons of hunters on their trail the reason they have not exploded in population is they are killed quickly & the park has spent a boat load of money to reinforce their fencing & is now patrolled around the clock

"Some of you should make money with all this knowledge you have stored up!"

And Really do you have to be an ass all the time?

I was pointing out the fact that they do live & can survive in Cold climates

State wants nothing to do with them NO closed season Park says kill on site as they have had to pay a ton in damage their pigs have done

Yes i see the true story..Lmao  The state is already making money off of them....Huh  Funny how they got there. Interesting!

 

 

 

New Hampshire

How To Hunt Wild Boar In New Hampshire

Corbin Park, a 26,000 acre private hunting reserve

Resident License: $22 for an annual New Hampshire Hunting License,

Non-Resident License: $ 103 for an annual New Hampshire Hunting License,  $73 for an annual Non-resident New Hampshire archery hunting license.

Resident Tag Fee: No tag required

Non-Resident Tag Fee: No Tag Required

Limit: No Limit

Season: Unregulated

Legal Method of Take: Any legal firearm or bow

Dogs: Yes

Night Time Hunting: No

Baiting: Yes, please visit New Hampshire Baiting Laws Page for more information

Summary:   There is definitely a huntable population of true blood wild boar in New Hampshire. Wild Boar can be found Grafton, Cheshire, and Sullivan Counties. Hunting wild boar in New Hampshire is a little bizarre, with hazy rules. For instance, wild boar are considered escaped private property running at large.  It is assumed that the wild boar belong to a private hunting association called Blue Mountain Forest Association. This group restricts its members to just 30, and only accepts new members when they die or they leave the association. The fenced in preserve is over 20,000 acres in size with a 12 foot high fence that travels 36 miles. The preserve was created by Austin Corbin, a bank baron, in the 1800′s. He wanted to create a preserve where all the animals could live harmoniously.

In 1930, the best breeds of Russian and German wild boar were introduced to the park, known by the locals as Corbin’s Park. In 1938, a hurricane came through and blew the fence down. A large amount of pure blood wild boar escaped the fence and have taken residence outside the preserve. In 1949, the “Boar Damage Law” was passed, making owners (there was only one owner) responsible for damage to farmland and property caused by wild boar. Wild boar are considered to be the sole property of Blue Mountain Forest Association, according to the law. So, on the flip side hunters are not allowed to hunt wild boar unless you ask for permission from the preserve. You have to call to ask permission, but the association will most likely give permission to hunt them, as they don’t want to be liable for the damage caused outside their enclosure. Blue Mountain’s number is in the resources section at the bottom.

 

 

Edited November 24, 2014 by Four Season Whitetails

[gfdeputy2]

the state is not making any money on boar hunting You need a license to hunt in NH no matter what it is

those fees are for general hunting licenses NOT just for wild boar

[Four Season Whitetail's]

the state is not making any money on boar hunting You need a license to hunt in NH no matter what it is

those fees are for general hunting licenses NOT just for wild boar

Yes my point...If they were thought to be vermin they would be killed on sight by any means at any time.  Gee it says right there that they are though of as..Private property and you need to ask to hunt!!!!!

[gfdeputy2]

State Put that there to cover their ass if you call the park they will tell you don't call just kill on site
My property almost boarders this park couple hundred yards away  & I can say the there are a lot of hunters hunting them year round have people in my back yard regularly

the ones that do get out do not usually survive a month or so it is not like hundreds get out at a time.

IN NH you don't need a license to hunt your own property all all land not posted is legal to hunt considerd like Public land

 

 

[EspressoBuzz]

Seems like just more of my facts trumping your facts, or I have better info than the state hired biologists has, what do they know anyway. Is there no end to people who distrust ANY study or program conducted by the "state"? And by state i mean DEC. I live by the saying take things with a grain of salt, but some people live in the middle of Bonneville salt flats. I can quote facts too but i can tell you i didn't pull them out of my ass, a gut feeling is not a fact. I wonder what would happen if whenever we state a "fact" we listed the source of the fact just like a college student or scientist?

 

Necro thanks for the heads up! Not only about this particular place to "fee hunt" but also for the honestly of your feelings and intuition. The most important lesson I learned was "listen to your inner voice when it tells you something is wrong".

 

[DirtTime]

I may have only gotten back into hunting last year, but I still hiked, fished, camped, and just walked the woods. I am not talking a camp ground, I am talking doing those things on just wooded state land. I have never seen or heard of anyone seeing a wild boar/pig. Not like signs of a wild pig wouldn't stand out in NY. Maybe I need to dig deeper into this site, I don't remember reading anything about them here. Maybe someone has them on a trail cam?

 

I am not sure anyone posted this link, but here ya go:

http://www.dec.ny.gov/animals/70843.html

 

As for Texas? I remember about 3 or 4 years ago DISC Channel had a doc about them. Not on a hunting channel, DISC, and the farmers, locals, and even some guides were on there saying they were a huge issue. Ripping and eating up food plots, ripping up grazing land.........

 

Like I said, and it seems people who WTH they are talking about, and live and hunt in NY agree with me.....But, I digress.....Too many people seem to know everything and have all the answers. So I will bid a due to this thread and bail on the pi$$in match. Cause ya know what, my dog is just a dog, and doesn't need to be bigger then everyone else's.

 

[jjb4900]

"adieu"

[Curmudgeon]

Here is some media coverage of the escaped wild boar in Delaware County. Besides the 2 links, I am trying to attach a pdf of a scanned article. I hope that works.

 

http://www.watershedpost.com/2014/bad-news-boars-helicopter-crew-fights-ny-feral-swine

 

http://www.catskillcenter.org/crisp/

 

Hancock Pig Article.pdf

Edited November 25, 2014 by Curmudgeon

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Here is some media coverage of the escaped wild boar in Delaware County. Besides the 2 links, I am trying to attach a pdf of a scanned article. I hope that works.

 

http://www.watershedpost.com/2014/bad-news-boars-helicopter-crew-fights-ny-feral-swine

 

http://www.catskillcenter.org/crisp/

 

Hancock Pig Article.pdf

Again..My Point>>>They have been here how many freakin years?  They will multiply how fast?  Everything they claim that CAN<COULD<WOULD happen the pigs themselves have PROVEN them wrong. Kinda like they are trying to use a little thing called CWD which has proven all science and every person that tries to use it for their agenda, sound like a dipstick.

 

Years and time are all the proof ya need and both have had plenty enough to prove that neither are a problem. Period!

[sampotter]

Again..My Point>>>They have been here how many freakin years?  They will multiply how fast?  Everything they claim that CAN<COULD<WOULD happen the pigs themselves have PROVEN them wrong. Kinda like they are trying to use a little thing called CWD which has proven all science and every person that tries to use it for their agenda, sound like a dipstick.

 

Years and time are all the proof ya need and both have had plenty enough to prove that neither are a problem. Period!

Kind of like claiming that deer farmers had nothing to do with the spread of the aforementioned CWD or that no deer was ever transported across state lines without the proper health testing, permits, and paperwork...

Edited November 25, 2014 by sampotter

[Curmudgeon]

Again..My Point>>>They have been here how many freakin years?  They will multiply how fast?  Everything they claim that CAN<COULD<WOULD happen the pigs themselves have PROVEN them wrong. Kinda like they are trying to use a little thing called CWD which has proven all science and every person that tries to use it for their agenda, sound like a dipstick.

 

Years and time are all the proof ya need and both have had plenty enough to prove that neither are a problem. Period!

 

Down the rabbit hole again?

Edited November 25, 2014 by Curmudgeon

[Four Season Whitetail's]

Kind of like claiming that deer farmers had nothing to do with the spread of the aforementioned CWD or that no deer was ever transported across state lines without the proper health testing, permits, and paperwork...

Just what i thought...No knowledgeable answer because there is none and fact is fact!

How about i show you what states think about CWD as a problem..  Talk about double standards!

 

 

 

February 25, 2013 5:30 am  •  Kevin Woster Journal staff

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A relocation plan aimed at reducing the elk herd in Wind Cave National Park and building elk numbers nearby has some critics worried about the spread of chronic wasting disease.

Wildlife officials at Wind Cave and adjoining Custer State Park are cooperating on a plan to use helicopters in early March to push hundreds of elk out of Wind Cave, where they have outgrown available habitat. The plan is to reduce the number of elk in Wind Cave and bolster the elk population in the adjoining national forest and Custer State Park, where the elk herd has dropped.

It is considered a win-win plan by those involved, but it worries critics who include former state Game, Fish & Parks Department wildlife specialist John Wrede of Rapid City. And chronic wasting disease is at the heart of that worry.

Wind Cave has been in a troubled area for the fatal brain disorder affecting elk and deer since a CWD-infected captive elk herd on private land adjoining the park had to be destroyed in the 1990s.

CWD apparently spread from that captive herd into wild elk in the park, causing a problem there that, based on limited data, appears to produce higher rates of infection in elk than elsewhere in the Black Hills.

"When considering just elk, the prevalence rate in and immediately around Wind Cave is far greater than anyplace else in South Dakota," Wrede said. "In fact, you could put Wind Cave directly in the center of what could easily be referred to as an endemic area, where managers and epidemiologists should be trying to figure out how to keep the area from growing larger."

Forcing hundreds of elk out of the park seems to work against such containment, Wrede said.

Wind Cave wildlife officials argue that a drive is unlikely to cause a significant increase in CWD elsewhere in the Black Hills. They also point out that the elk herd in Wind Cave is thriving in spite of CWD, to the point where the reduction plan was needed.

And the higher rates of CWD in the park's elk herd should be kept in perspective, said park biological science technician Duane Weber and natural resource manager Greg Schroeder.

They admit that the numbers of infected elk appear startling, based on limited survey results. Out of 140 elk tested in the park since 1998, 45 have tested CWD positive. 

But there's a catch. Those were not random tests. They were tests on elk that were either dead or sick, unlike the more random testing done elsewhere in the Black Hills by GF&P, primarily from elk shot by hunters.

Those test results, based on 15 years of sampling, indicate a CWD infection rate throughout the Hills in deer and elk of slightly less than 1 percent. But comparing the two types of tests isn't fair, Weber said.

"The animals we test are either sick and we suspect chronic wasting and we shoot them, or they've already died and we test them," Weber said. "So it's way higher. Comparing our tests to the state's results is apples and elephants."

It's difficult to know what a more random testing system would show, since Wind Cave doesn't allow hunting within park boundaries.

"In a nutshell, we don't have a very good handle on what our prevalence is, whether it's higher or lower overall," Weber said.

The closest study Wind Cave has to the more random state surveys was a 3-year mortality study based on elk fitted with tracking collars. It indicated that 3 percent of the collared elk that died were CWD infected. For perspective, that was the same rate as those determined to have been killed by mountain lions in the park.

Hunter mortality on those collared elk was 6 to 7 percent, on animals that migrated outside the park during the hunting season, Weber said.

Weber and Schroeder said it should also be noted that Wind Cave elk have been moving in and out of the park for years. Portions of the herd have moved over low spots in fences to reach federal or private forest for calving season, Weber said.

Recent upgrades give Wind Cave officials more control over when and where elk leave and return to the park.

Wrede is pretty sure the Wind Cave rates are higher, regardless of variations in testing protocol. The CWD problem in the Black Hills pretty clearly began with the captive elk herd near Wind Cave and spread into the wild elk in the park and then beyond, he said.

"There may be a better than fair probability that, at least in the case of elk, animals historically testing positive for CWD had origins in Wind Cave National Park," Wrede said.

The issue isn't lost on John Kanta, GF&P regional wildlife manager in Rapid City. He noted that elk have migrated in and out of Wind Cave for years but also said the helicopter drive will get into parts of the population that tended not to leave the park. And now they will.

"We're certainly going to be pushing some animals into areas where they haven't been before, from a place where there has been a higher prevalence of the disease," Kanta said."That's certainly a concern that we've discussed among the staff."

Even so, Kanta doubts the CWD impacts outside the park will be dramatic. And he said the upside of redistributing elk will benefit Wind Cave wildlife and habitat management and hunters and wildlife watchers outside the park.

Building the herd in Custer State Park, where limited elk hunting is typically allowed, and on U.S. Forest Service land nearby will benefit elk hunters and elk watchers, Kanta said.

Weber said the positive side of the plan is big.

"We don't know exactly what's going to happen when these elk go out," he said. "But we think the benefit of this project far outweigh any detriments we might see.

[sampotter]

 

Just what i thought...No knowledgeable answer because there is none and fact is fact!

How about i show you what states think about CWD as a problem..  Talk about double standards!

 

 

 

February 25, 2013 5:30 am  •  Kevin Woster Journal staff

(1) Comments

 

A relocation plan aimed at reducing the elk herd in Wind Cave National Park and building elk numbers nearby has some critics worried about the spread of chronic wasting disease.

Wildlife officials at Wind Cave and adjoining Custer State Park are cooperating on a plan to use helicopters in early March to push hundreds of elk out of Wind Cave, where they have outgrown available habitat. The plan is to reduce the number of elk in Wind Cave and bolster the elk population in the adjoining national forest and Custer State Park, where the elk herd has dropped.

It is considered a win-win plan by those involved, but it worries critics who include former state Game, Fish & Parks Department wildlife specialist John Wrede of Rapid City. And chronic wasting disease is at the heart of that worry.

Wind Cave has been in a troubled area for the fatal brain disorder affecting elk and deer since a CWD-infected captive elk herd on private land adjoining the park had to be destroyed in the 1990s.

CWD apparently spread from that captive herd into wild elk in the park, causing a problem there that, based on limited data, appears to produce higher rates of infection in elk than elsewhere in the Black Hills.

"When considering just elk, the prevalence rate in and immediately around Wind Cave is far greater than anyplace else in South Dakota," Wrede said. "In fact, you could put Wind Cave directly in the center of what could easily be referred to as an endemic area, where managers and epidemiologists should be trying to figure out how to keep the area from growing larger."

Forcing hundreds of elk out of the park seems to work against such containment, Wrede said.

Wind Cave wildlife officials argue that a drive is unlikely to cause a significant increase in CWD elsewhere in the Black Hills. They also point out that the elk herd in Wind Cave is thriving in spite of CWD, to the point where the reduction plan was needed.

And the higher rates of CWD in the park's elk herd should be kept in perspective, said park biological science technician Duane Weber and natural resource manager Greg Schroeder.

They admit that the numbers of infected elk appear startling, based on limited survey results. Out of 140 elk tested in the park since 1998, 45 have tested CWD positive. 

But there's a catch. Those were not random tests. They were tests on elk that were either dead or sick, unlike the more random testing done elsewhere in the Black Hills by GF&P, primarily from elk shot by hunters.

Those test results, based on 15 years of sampling, indicate a CWD infection rate throughout the Hills in deer and elk of slightly less than 1 percent. But comparing the two types of tests isn't fair, Weber said.

"The animals we test are either sick and we suspect chronic wasting and we shoot them, or they've already died and we test them," Weber said. "So it's way higher. Comparing our tests to the state's results is apples and elephants."

It's difficult to know what a more random testing system would show, since Wind Cave doesn't allow hunting within park boundaries.

"In a nutshell, we don't have a very good handle on what our prevalence is, whether it's higher or lower overall," Weber said.

The closest study Wind Cave has to the more random state surveys was a 3-year mortality study based on elk fitted with tracking collars. It indicated that 3 percent of the collared elk that died were CWD infected. For perspective, that was the same rate as those determined to have been killed by mountain lions in the park.

Hunter mortality on those collared elk was 6 to 7 percent, on animals that migrated outside the park during the hunting season, Weber said.

Weber and Schroeder said it should also be noted that Wind Cave elk have been moving in and out of the park for years. Portions of the herd have moved over low spots in fences to reach federal or private forest for calving season, Weber said.

Recent upgrades give Wind Cave officials more control over when and where elk leave and return to the park.

Wrede is pretty sure the Wind Cave rates are higher, regardless of variations in testing protocol. The CWD problem in the Black Hills pretty clearly began with the captive elk herd near Wind Cave and spread into the wild elk in the park and then beyond, he said.

"There may be a better than fair probability that, at least in the case of elk, animals historically testing positive for CWD had origins in Wind Cave National Park," Wrede said.

The issue isn't lost on John Kanta, GF&P regional wildlife manager in Rapid City. He noted that elk have migrated in and out of Wind Cave for years but also said the helicopter drive will get into parts of the population that tended not to leave the park. And now they will.

"We're certainly going to be pushing some animals into areas where they haven't been before, from a place where there has been a higher prevalence of the disease," Kanta said."That's certainly a concern that we've discussed among the staff."

Even so, Kanta doubts the CWD impacts outside the park will be dramatic. And he said the upside of redistributing elk will benefit Wind Cave wildlife and habitat management and hunters and wildlife watchers outside the park.

Building the herd in Custer State Park, where limited elk hunting is typically allowed, and on U.S. Forest Service land nearby will benefit elk hunters and elk watchers, Kanta said.

Weber said the positive side of the plan is big.

"We don't know exactly what's going to happen when these elk go out," he said. "But we think the benefit of this project far outweigh any detriments we might see.

 

 

So, in this article it is claimed that the wild elk were infected by escapees from a nearby game farm?

[Four Season Whitetail's]

So, in this article it is claimed that the wild elk were infected by escapees from a nearby game farm?

why of course they were. With no proof what so ever. Like every other case.  So tell me, You see no problem with the release of the CWD positive herd being released into a public forest to infect any deer or elk for miles around?

[jjb4900]

www.fourseasonwhitetails.com

anyone familiar with this company?

Edited November 25, 2014 by jjb4900

[Four Season Whitetail's]

www.fourseasonwhitetails.com

anyone familiar with this company?

I know, I should really update but i believe i am going to revamp the whole site.  Trust me that anybody that has anything to do with whitetails from here to Texas knows about this site. Company?  Nah..Just a hobby that throws a few extra 00000's in the ckecking account every year!  Dont drool on yourself to much!

[jjb4900]

I know, I should really update but i believe i am going to revamp the whole site.  Trust me that anybody that has anything to do with whitetails from here to Texas knows about this site. Company?  Nah..Just a hobby that throws a few extra 00000's in the ckecking account every year!  Dont drool on yourself to much!

my goodness, why would anyone have a user name that can be linked back to a website that has the name of their business and the names of their wife and kids along with their address on it? I could see if it was for the furtherance of the business as one thing, but for the purpose of going on a website where you may possibly engage in conversation with strangers is beyond me.........just a thought.

[RSRAINS]

The same guy has 2 locations. The company is officially in Bethel but the fenced hunting enclosure is in Hancock.

 

As far as "bring on the pigs", why don't you go to Spain and hunt something really wild? Or, take your crossbow to Hancock before the state bans the beasts. NYS is doing the right thing by banning wild boar from NYS. If landowners have rights, protecting our property from harmful invasive species should be on the list.

 

I prefer to stay local and hunt my own turf and will not hunt any fenced animals.

 

When I was younger I was raised in south Florida and let me tell you, there was nothing like some good Ole Free Ranging wild boar pulled pork sandwiches on a garlic Italian bread. Man oh Man that was good.

 

The New law states if you see a wild pig on your property and it is damaging it you will be allowed to kill it, so what's your problem.

 

BRING ON THE PIGS!!!!!!!

[stoneam2006]

I know, I should really update but i believe i am going to revamp the whole site. Trust me that anybody that has anything to do with whitetails from here to Texas knows about this site. Company? Nah..Just a hobby that throws a few extra 00000's in the ckecking account every year! Dont drool on yourself to much!

Constructive criticism. ...you said it your sight needs some serious rework I'd like to see what you got going on up there but that sight is brutal.....good luck with it. Pics are all years old if I looked at it right

[LI OUTDOORSMAN]

Honestly I would welcome another animal to hunt in NY during the big game season and I really cant see hogs getting overpopulated with the locals driving around with guns in their back seats and the amount of guys in the woods with weapons should be enough to control the population. NY is not like Texas or Florida

[pistolp71]

I would like another tasty game animal as well. But its not that simple. They are very destructive to crops. Would impact turkey populations by eating the eggs, even kill and eat deer fawns. Not to mention highly intelligent. More so than the locals driving around..

[ncountry]

I would like another tasty game animal as well. But its not that simple. Not to mention highly intelligent. More so than the locals driving around..

Hey! I resemble...I mean resent that remark....