I don't find it "political"

[phade]

I saw a SUV today with the license plate "WPOD".

I'm sure you guys know what the refers to.............

 

Woman, please on demand?

 

Would Pygmy own dodge?

 

Wooly's passion of deer?

 

Women pretty often dicker?

 

I give up.

[Mr VJP]

Wise People Offend Democrats

 

[Dom]

This is a product that has many uses.I do not smoke or ingest this but many things weed can be used for.This is a plant much like Bamboo you can make rope baskets and many other things from said plant.Why is ok to take pharmicudical/man made but alot are against a natural.

[Mr VJP]

One requires a prescription from a doctor for one thing.

 

[growalot]

different hemp there Dom....

 

http://ivn.us/2014/02/18/know-difference-marijuana-hemp/

 

http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-hemp-and-cannabis

 

http://hempethics.weebly.com/industrial-hemp-vs-cannabis.html

[Dom]

One requires a prescription from a doctor for one thing.

And so many doctors giving prescriptions is doing that well for the Public?This is an OxyMoron.You may have lived longer. and have more exp than most but all of our statements cannot be to far from the truth.One thing I do know is these prescription drug's are killing more people than any weed has ever.

[Mr VJP]

Would you rather get your medicines from a dealer on the street corner?  If not for prescription drugs, many people alive today would be dead.

 

Not all prescription drugs are completely safe, but you need to weigh the risk against the benefit.  Many problems associated with them have more to do with the doctor prescribing them, than with the drugs themselves.

 

Weed may not have killed a lot of people, but it is not curing or preventing any diseases either.

Edited March 26, 2015 by Mr VJP

[Dom]

Would you rather get your medicines from a dealer on the street corner?  If not for prescription drugs, many people alive today would be dead.

 

Not all prescription drugs are completely safe, but you need to weigh the risk against the benefit.  Many problems associated with them have more to do with the doctor prescribing them, than with the drugs themselves.

 

Weed may not have killed a lot of people, but it is not curing or preventing any diseases either.

I do will agree on some med's for they have and do work for some.At the same voice weed does help some people when other med's do not.You seem to be eduacated in this work so why not have a natural substance be avale to the ones who would want to use this.Are You against this for medical purposes?

[growalot]

VJP you may want to read this...

 

http://www.mjlegal.org/medicinal.html

 

 

Who's a Good Candidate for Medical Cannabis?

In his medical practice, Dr. Frankel treats a wide variety of patients with medical cannabis, which has become his specialty. Despite the many claims of cannabis performing miracles, he's reluctant to think of it as a cure for anything. Occasionally, however, patients will experience very dramatic results. For example, he has seen tumors virtually disappear in some patients using no other therapy except taking 40 to 60 milligrams of cannabinoids a day. The most common thing he sees in cancer patients, however, are tumors shrinking, or a metastasis disappearing. Sometimes tumors will shrink or vanish, only to reemerge in other areas, months later, and then shrink or vanish again... Other common ailments being treated with cannabis include:

• Mood disorders
• Pain disorders
• Degenerative neurological disorders such as dystonia
• Multiple sclerosis
• Parkinson's disease
• PTSD
• Seizure Disorders

He recounts how two dystonia patients with severe myofascial spasms were able to return to normal life after taking two milligrams of whole-plant CBD three times a day for a little more than one week. This is quite astounding, considering each of them had spent more than a decade undergoing neurosurgeries and taking multiple medications.

Dr. Frankel is very focused on trying to develop accurate dose-consistent medicine. The Patient Access Centers he consults with create a diverse collection of dose-consistent oral-buccal sprays. He also believes it's very important to open up and start talking about dosing—what works, what doesn't. It is his belief that some patients, in large part due to lack of education about the medicine, may be taking 10, or even 100 times higher dosage than is really needed to treat their ailment. Unfortunately, many doctors in this still highly controversial field are afraid to recommend dosages, for fear of the repercussions.

"There's this false notion (I think I can very safely say it's false) that doctors cannot recommend dosage because of this federal [law against] aiding and abetting with cannabis. It's not true. It's just not true,"

he says. 

"There are no [cannabis] medications that we dose by body weight. We now have about 120 kids with seizure disorder, and if you look at the surveys, across the board, the average dose is 37 milligrams [of whole-plant CBD] per day, and there's no relationship with body size."

 

[Lawdwaz]

Woman, please on demand?

 

Would Pygmy own dodge?

 

Wooly's passion of deer?

 

Women pretty often dicker?

 

I give up.

 

It may be before your time but I'm sure some of the truly old bastids on here will remember WPOD.

 

Fee Waybill & The Tubes................

 

[scolopaxmatt]

Thanks Lawdwaz.  That was dope.

[EspressoBuzz]

I look forward to moving to the first state that actually leaves this union and intends to set up a government that actually follows the Constitution.

 

Finally we agree! I'm looking forward to that day too!

[Mr VJP]

VJP you may want to read this...

 

http://www.mjlegal.org/medicinal.html

 

I have absolutely no issue with it being used under a doctor's control, if it is in fact needed by the patient.  Today "medical" marijuana is dispensed by so called doctors for anything that pays them enough for the prescription.

[Four Season Whitetail's]

It works, been prescribing it for years. Nothing wrong with me yet and im in my 50's.  I sure would like to be the first one to open shop in Ny when they give the go ahead. That would be another nice paying business for sure.

[Mr VJP]

Finally we agree! I'm looking forward to that day too!

 

LOL!  I'm sure they wouldn't let either you or junkie in Buzz.

 

I'm sure Leftists would be considered the worst illegals of all.

[wildcat junkie]

LOL! I'm sure they wouldn't let either you or junkie in Buzz.

I'm sure Leftists would be considered the worst illegals of all.

Why would I want to go to that hell hole?

[wildcat junkie]

Wise People Overwelmingly Democrats

There, I fixed that for you.

[Curmudgeon]

different hemp there Dom....

 

http://ivn.us/2014/02/18/know-difference-marijuana-hemp/

 

http://www.differencebetween.info/difference-between-hemp-and-cannabis

 

http://hempethics.weebly.com/industrial-hemp-vs-cannabis.html

 

Different cultivars, still illegal.

 

[growalot]

Really?...... because as the guys here, know I planted Sun Hemp for the deer 2 yrs ago and the seed came from Hawaii ...I also told them at the time  That I called the sheriffs and State Troopers. Told them I was planting both the Hemp and  Kenaf...because the Sunn Hemp looks look golden rod but the Kenaf looks very similar to pot in leaf structure...So if they got any calls  this is who I am and where I live and what I'm planting...No Problems...

 

http://hancockseed.com/sunn-hemp-seed-50-lb-bag-crotolaria-juncea-470.html

 

http://www.uky.edu/Ag/NewCrops/introsheets/kenafintro.pdf

Edited March 27, 2015 by growalot

[Curmudgeon]

Really?...... because as the guys here, know I planted Sun Hemp for the deer 2 yrs ago and the seed came from Hawaii ...I also told them at the time  That I called the sheriffs and State Troopers. Told them I was planting both the Hemp and  Knaf...because the Sunn Hemp looks look golden rod but the Knaf looks very similar to pot in leaf structure...So if they got any calls  this is who I am and where I live and what I'm planting...No Problems...

 

Sunn Hemp is a different genus - Crotolaria not Cannabis - so no problem.

 

[growalot]

Which I was saying...stilled called hemp ...and Kenaf is....(hibiscus cannabinus)

 

 

 

[Curmudgeon]

Which I was saying...stilled called hemp ...and Kenaf is....(hibiscus cannabinus)

 

Genus matters. Common names, colloquial names and species names do not.

 

[growalot]

Yes and that was the point to Dom...who BTW understood...Now Seeing you have a need to press this point.  Did I see where you addressed the Hibiscus Cannabinus? Just for clarification...

[growalot]

Clarification for anyone that cares...

 

Hemp and Marijuana

Myths & Realities

A Botanical and Biochemical Introduction

Hemp. Has there ever been a plant so fraught with confusion and controversy? The word itself carries a confusing history. "Hemp" was for medieval Europeans a generic term used to describe any fiber [1]. With European expansion, fiber plants encountered during exploration were commonly called "hemp." Thus we have a bewildering variety of plants that carry the name hemp: Manila hemp (abacá, Musa textilis), sisal hemp (Agave sisalana), Mauritius hemp (Furcraea gigantea), New Zealand hemp (Phormium tenax), Sunn hemp (Crotalaria juncea), Indian hemp (jute, Corchorus capsularis or C. clitorus), Indian hemp (Apocynum cannabinum), bow-string hemp (Sansevieria cylindrica) [2].

This botanical confusion was compounded by the introduction of a new word to describe hemp-marihuana (now commonly written "marijuana"). The word was first coined in the 1890s, but was adopted by the Bureau of Narcotics in the 1930s to describe all forms of Cannabis and to this day U.S. drug enforcement agencies continue to call the plant marijuana without regard to botanical distinctions. Indeed, a recent conference held in Jefferson City, Missouri and sponsored by Drug Watch International and the Drug Enforcement Administration was entitled, "Marijuana: Myths, Concerns, Facts"-yet much of the discussion concerned industrial hemp and the legal products made from it.

The conflation of the word "marijuana" and the word "hemp" has placed a heavy burden on public policymakers. Many believe that by legalizing hemp they are legalizing marijuana. Yet in more than two dozen other countries, governments have accepted the distinction between the two types of Cannabis and, while continuing to penalize the growing of marijuana, have legalized the growing of industrial hemp. The U.S. government remains unconvinced.

To understand the difference between hemp and marijuana, let's begin with two botanical analogies: field corn and sweet corn; breadseed poppies and opium poppies.

Field Corn and Sweet Corn

For crops less encumbered by polemic than hemp is, functional distinctions among varieties are commonly recognized. Consider the case of field corn and sweet corn. The untrained observer cannot tell the different varieties apart just by looking, Both belong to the genus Zea mays. But if a grocer attempted a substitution, he would hear complaints. Your average consumer will recognize the difference. And when sweet corn is planted too near field corn, the resulting cross-pollination reduces the sweetness of the former. Companies like Green Giant that grow huge acreages of sweet corn for canning go to great lengths to ensure that an adequate distance separates their fields from corn destined for the grain elevator, or they grow the different varieties at different times. Either way, pollen carrying the dominant gene for starch synthesis is kept clear of cornsilks borne on plants of the recessive (sweet) variety.

Commercial producers of planting seed of either variety are very careful to preserve the genetic integrity of their lines from contamination by other varieties. Their genetic resources are assemblages of optimized characteristics-yield, disease resistance, maturity-created through substantial research investment. Breeders of these crops rigorously ensure that their breeding stocks do not become contaminated by the other type, as this would result in a serious decline in the quality factors each tries to enhance.

This botanical distinction is reflected even in the academic disciplines that deal with corn. Go to a midwestern land grant university's agriculture college and ask to speak to a plant breeder about sweet corn and you will be sent to the horticulture department; for field corn you will be directed to the agronomy department.

A similar situation exists with respect to poppies, the popular garden flower of which there are dozens of variants. Recently the U. S. Drug Enforcement Administration has been cracking down on one specific poppy variety grown in backyards for many years, because it says that opium can be extracted from it. Yet the DEA still considers it legal for gardeners to continue to cultivate the many other varieties of Papaver somniferum, even though these are not botanically distinct from the poppy variety that has been outlawed. In similar fashion, the so-called "breadseed poppy" is also a member of the same species, yet the Controlled Substances Act specifically sets aside the poppy seed because of the culinary market [3].

With corn and poppies, we can understand the distinctions among varieties and strains. Until recently, as we shall see, the federal government also recognized the distinctions among the different varieties of Cannabis.

Now let's move from analogy to the real thing by examining in more detail the genus Cannabis.

The Genus Cannabis: Taxonomy and Biochemistry

Scientists who were the first to study the genus Cannabis clearly discerned different species. The father of plant taxonomy, Linnaeus, officially designated the Cannabis genus in 1753 when he founded the binomial system of botanical nomenclature still used today [4]. Linnaeus added the "sativa" appellation (literally, "sown" or "cultivated," i.e., used in agriculture), indicating the utilitarian nature of the plant. Since his time numerous attempts have been made for a coherent taxonomy of Cannabis. Species designations have come and gone [5].

In 1889, botanist and plant explorer George Watt wrote about the distinction between types of Cannabis: "A few plants such as the potato, tomato, poppy and hemp seem to have the power of growing with equal luxuriance under almost any climatic condition, changing or modifying some important function as if to adapt themselves to the altered circumstance. As remarked, hemp is perhaps the most notable example of this; hence, it produces a valuable fibre in Europe, while showing little or no tendency to produce the narcotic principle which in Asia constitutes its chief value."[6]

Dr. Andrew Wright, an agronomist with the University of Wisconsin's Agriculture Experiment Station and steward of the Wisconsin hemp industry during the first half of the twentieth century, wrote in 1918, "There are three fairly distinct types of hemp: that grown for fiber, that for birdseed and oil, and that for drugs." [7]

Although these early analysts discerned clear differences among hemp types, taxonomists have had a difficult problem in deciding how to reflect those differences [8].

The key Cannabis species problem derives from the fact that there is no convenient species barrier between the varying types that would allow us to draw a clear line between them. In taxonomy, often the delineating line between species is that they cannot cross-breed. But disparate types of Cannabis can indeed produce fertile offspring, not sexually dysfunctional "mules."

Consequently, a debate has raged within botanical circles as to how many species the genus contains. At this time botanists generally recognize a unique family of plants they call "Cannabaceae," under which are classified the genus Cannabis and its closest botanical relative, Humulus, which contains the beer flavoring, hops [9]. The prevailing opinion currently recognizes three species: C. sativa, C. indica, and C. ruderalis. [10] "Industrial" types fall exclusively within C. sativa, although all Cannabis plants contain stem fiber and can have multiple uses in primitive societies where they are indigenous.

Recent analytical advances are leading many scientists to believe that a more accurate and satisfying way to differentiate the different forms of Cannabis would be by their biochemical composition.

Cannabis is the only plant genus in which can be found the unique class of molecules known as cannabinoids. Cannabis produces two major cannabinoids-THC (delta-9 tetrahydrocannabinol) and CBD (cannabidiol), and several other minor cannabinoid compounds.

THC is responsible for the psychoactive effect [11]. That was demonstrated conclusively in the 1960s. CBD, on the other hand, has recently been shown to block the effect of THC in the nervous system.

Cannabis strains of the type used for industrial purposes have relatively high levels of CBD versus THC. Drug strains are high in THC and low to intermediate in CBD [12]. Smoking hemp, high in CBD and very low in THC, actually has the effect of preventing the marijuana high [13]. Even when the amount of THC in a sample is as high as 2 percent, the psychological high is blocked by as little as 2 percent CBD [14].

 

 

 

Edited March 27, 2015 by growalot

[Curmudgeon]

Which I was saying...stilled called hemp ...and Kenaf is....(hibiscus cannabinus)

If you weren't confused about taxonomy, why did you even bring Sunn Hemp and a Hibiscus plant into the discussion? Dom wasn't talking about Sunn Hemp or anything else. He was talking about Cannabis plants, actually Cannabis sativa grown for fiber. Forgive me if I'm having trouble following your train of thought.