Buckmaster7600 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I popped one in the shoulder knuckle last year . 65 pound bow shooting a 400g expandable. Luckily we had him on a camera a few weeks later with almost no sign of damage . I was sick for days after that shot.And that's why I shoot slick tricks! Been there done that and learned.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 In my opinion I would rather be a little light "weight not spine" heavy arrows leave less room for error with range. That being said if I shot expendables I would be on the other side of the fence and go for weight over trajectory.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 just got some more arrows. trying BloodSport Hunter 300 spined arrows this time around, cut to 29". should weigh about 406-408 grains. a little on the light side if you ask me for 65-70 lb draw weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisw Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 70# 460gr arrow tipped with a ramcat. Through front shoulder blade and exited ribs on off side at 32 yds. Kinetic energy is a poor indicator of penetration as it does not directly relate, it only shows energy at the hide of the animal, momentum will tell you more about how your setup will penetrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Core Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Seems like a lot of you are probably using fixed broadheads...I'm guessing mechanical would struggle mightily to get through a shoulder even from a very heavy bow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moog5050 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, Core said: Seems like a lot of you are probably using fixed broadheads...I'm guessing mechanical would struggle mightily to get through a shoulder even from a very heavy bow. I shoot mechanicals from my compound, but happily have not shoulder shot a deer with them. I would prefer fixed blade if that was to happen. That said, I suspect unless I knuckle it, it would kill the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phade Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Bid difference between hitting the shoulder paddle and the knuckle. The latter is a pretty poor experience whether fixed or mechanical for anything but someone shooting a ton of KE and tree logs for arrows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I know of setups by two people that even shy way from a shoulder hit unless it's 20 yards or so. even then it's got to be down through the top of the shoulder blade and not down by the joint. one shoots Rage heads (hypos or chisel tips) out of a 70 lb newer bow with a finished arrow for dangerous game (weight over 750 grains I think or at least that). other shoots a newer bow with moderately heavy arrows and 80lbs of draw weight. his arrows are tipped with Rocket Steelheads (hardly a huge mechanical @just over 1" cut). longer draw too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 most people think that mechanicals have crazy different penetration when compared to fixed blades but in reality that might not be as true. most people think of mechanicals and jump to the brands and models with massive cutting diameters. that's where you really suffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlammerhirt Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Victory x ringer HV-1. Hold one in your hand it's like they're made out of potato chips but they are incredibly durable. I've shot four seasons of the winter league with the same arrows I shoot the same arrows out of my elite in the southern zone winter 3d league.Absolutely love them, and they are durable as hell!TC...How are yours fletched ?Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckmaster7600 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 most people think that mechanicals have crazy different penetration when compared to fixed blades but in reality that might not be as true. most people think of mechanicals and jump to the brands and models with massive cutting diameters. that's where you really suffer. For me personally I have no issues with mechanicals penetrating. My issue with them is them going through something hard and staying together. I have killed a couple of truck loads of deer with mechanicals "G5 Tekans, Rage and nap spitfires" and never had an issue with penetration other than the Tekans that aren't legal in NY I had issues with the others holding together. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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