I'm glutten for punishment

[Pat Rockets]

The surplus from the feeder $ could help with fire funding

[Culvercreek hunt club]

wildland fires and wildfires for part of 2010

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/68333.html

[Pat Rockets]

bubba ...any thoughts...you suggested i do this...

ny antler....come out and play

[16. ga hunter]

6 prescibed burns in 25 years is not considered a management plan in any other state i don't know all the details but i can try and get ahold of one of my buddies from sc how is pretty up to date on this stuff

[nyantler]

I'd play but too much like nonsense to me... no fun!

[Pat Rockets]

You are so full of poo....everybody here knows damn well you cant resist...probably would be a stupid answer anyway..thanx for sparing us

[G-Man]

Well back when you could feed deer after the season and before, i started feeding with 1 hanging spin feeder and went thru about a ton of corn, 3 years later i was going thru 10ton plus at 4 feeders with in 100 yards of each other to allow other members of the herd to eat (them dominant does do a number even to old mature bucks once they shed their horns). the average cost per 100lbs bag then was about 5-6$ the food plots i now have produce almost twice the tonnage at a fraction of the cost. I would not go back to feeding at all. Plots and creating natural browse is a lot more cost effective, and we seem to have enough deer to shoot every year...and we pass a lot more than we shoot. ...... just my opinion.

[Pat Rockets]

Not every one has the time or equipment to till up plots..but i see what yer sayin gman..

[Doc]

Chart of prescribed burns in NY

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/42438.html

wildland fires and wildfires for part of 2010

http://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/68333.html 

If I understand their definitions correctly, the figures shown relate to "Wildland fires" which by their definition (previous page) include all fires intentional and unplanned. I didn't see anything that separated out prescribed burns as a quantity from the accidental, natural, and other types of fires. So, I am still not sure if this is still a current practice, or how significant that activity really is in this state. Did I miss something?

[Pat Rockets]

Yes. You missed the part where the state land gets burned and the deer move to all the surrounding private land that still has desireable habitat

[gjs4]

I totally disagree with your idea and statemnt on foodplots.

My contribution is a tad different

Most writers say feeders train deer and do not provide as much of a harvest opportunity. Also in an area of high browse (and ag) like w NY- they would only be money makers when the herd was stressed/starving

Biggest issue- why say more deer need to go if no one knows the population? Not a good move to kill more or even do what we're doing now

[16. ga hunter]

doc on the second map there is a legand on the side state prescribed burns were marked by a white lightining bolt there were six for the 25 year period so it has necer been a relevant practice in this state take that back on second exam it was for 2010 alone so six is a decent number

[SplitG2]

Pat, how would you control disease?  When new food(corn) is introduced to deer it can take up to 6 weeks before they develope the proper microbs to digest it?  Also, I believe these microbs aren't produced in the winter months.

[Pat Rockets]

I would hope that the state controlled feed would have a mix of whatever is positive for the herd..i use the word hope loosely

[SplitG2]

also, since most of the land in NY is privately owned how would DEC set them up?

[Pat Rockets]

Not sure exactly what you mean..like to get a feeder from the state the dec would set it up 4u and mark out the no kill zone..in attempt of keeping it honest..dec doesnt need your permission to be on your land..just cause..its more of a courtesy

[SplitG2]

It had nothing to do with them walking my land.....my question was how will dec implement this huge task and who has the ultimate say on where the feeders are placed?  I wouldn't want the state to have control over feeders being placed on my land.

[Pat Rockets]

I see..i would say..being that its all theoretical..the dec would act as "advisors" and just make sure the area can support the no kill zone ..

[NYDeer]

a 'No Kill Zone' around a feeder??? Are you guys serious??

Poachers shooting game out of season, headhunting & hacksawing skull caps, People shooting from houses, shooting from vehicles, sneaking in state parks, trespassing on posted & unposted lands without a care in the world, but the 'No Kill Zone' will be respected... If only we had Al Gore's' Lock Box'...

NOT...

I posted something along these lines a while ago.. Habitat improvement IS a vital piece of any program to a healthier deer herd, but I cant see a state-wide feeder program..  A partnership of the DEC with volunteers would be needed first off if anything was going to get done, because paid manpower would sink it outright without buying a single thing. If DEC could structure some type of work-core to get us involved, NY could be a 'big buck, public land destination'..

[Pat Rockets]

Good point..but forever im hopin the neighbors keepin it honest..as far as work core..id go with that..groups of people in each zone ...possible

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Doc, I read it as wildland fires were the planned ones. Might have been wrong. Seems like a lot of the prescribed burns revolves around pine barren and wetlands based on some of the narratives I read

[Pat Rockets]

http://i.imgur.com/vrkdW.jpg

[Pat Rockets]

Sorry wrong thread..

[Pat Rockets]

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?xl=xl_blazer&v=0NCdnnvt17o

[Pat Rockets]

Figured id put this here too...