diplomat019 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 So now it is un-American to tell the public about un-American things going on? I just dont get it. I thought the power was going back to the people? Seems like we are still trying to be kept in the dark. https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-slams-un-american-intelligence-leaks-just-like-russia-132915549.html President Trump accused U.S. intelligence agencies of “illegally” leaking information to the New York Times and Washington Post on Wednesday, following reports that members of his presidential campaign were in contact with Russian officials during the 2016 presidential election. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 You have a very thin understanding of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) More media hyperbole designed to smear Trump's administration. Leaking classified info isn't just un-American, it's a crime! This leaked classified info comes from members of the intelligence community that do not like Trump or his goal of making this country great again. Too many of them have too much to lose. So they will do whatever they can to destroy his foreign policy agenda. They all need to be exposed and fired for working against the man in charge of their very existence. What exactly happened here? Flynn was accused of something he did NOT do, to the extent the media is saying he did. They say he violated the Logan Act of 1799. Nobody has ever been prosecuted under the 1799 Logan Act for anything. All of a sudden it's important? Do you know how many Obama administration officials could've been charged with the same offense? Besides, to date there is no evidence any crime has been committed. Trump should refuse the resignation and stand firm against all attackers. These CIA & FBI people are not looking out for what is best for the country. They are only concerned with what is best for them personally. They are practicing anarchy. If you are applauding this type of activity in our government, you are on the side of people who only want to destroy Trump, his administration and all the good that it is trying to do for this country. That means you are also disloyal to the idea of power in the hands of the people and a limited government. I despise people who believe big government is good and it can solve all of our problems. Government has never solved any problem that it has gotten involved with. It often creates problems, and then makes them even worse with it's "solutions" I challenge any of you Leftists to provide any example where big government has solved a problem for Americans. In the meantime, I'm once again assured there are many people in this land that want it to end. Edited February 15, 2017 by Rattler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Good on the people who leaked the info. They shouldn't be treated as lepers. As per our president "the power is given back to the people". The people who leaked the info about Hillary Clinton should be applauded. Edward Snowden should be applauded for telling us about govt overreach. We dont need anymore shady crap. THE SWAMP IS BEING DRAINED MAGA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) This is who these people are. They should not be admired. They are enemies of the state. The most important thing is what info was leaked and what it meant. Hillary tried to distract the story by focusing on who leaked it, rather than what they leaked. http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/exposed-who-was-really-behind-secret-campaign-to-oust-flynn Edited February 15, 2017 by Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 "It is amazing to see the Democrats change their positions on secret information being leaked. Trump has been consistent in saying that leaking highly sensitive information was bad during the Obama administration. Yet, the motives for the leaks by Snowden and what is happening with Flynn and the Trump where leaks are done to hurt political opponents are quite different. To be honest, this shows first hand why the government shouldn't be getting all the information on private telephone calls. In Flynn's case, I can't even see what it is that he supposedly did wrong. According to Eli Lake, Russian ambassador raised sanctions to Flynn and Flynn responded that Trump would be taking office in 3 weeks and they would review the issue then. SO?! The issue with whether he was honest with Pence is a different question, and I can understand Flynn should have been clearer, saying that the Russians raised it but that he didn't discuss it with them." John R. Lott Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 If flynn had done nothing wrong why did he resign? Trump and media already are at odds. So I don't think this was done to appease anybody. So if Flynn did nothing wrong what was the real reason for him resigning? We shouldn't kill the message. That's the first sign that people are nervous. When They try to discredit the messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) Why don't you tell us what Flynn did wrong then? He probably resigned because he has a very low tolerance for stupidity in the media. He probably knew the witch hunt wouldn't stop too. The distraction required he fall on his sword. Disagree? Tell us what he did wrong then. BTW, he can probably do much more for the country now that he is no longer part of the administration. He can speak without fear now. I can't wait to hear what he says now. Edited February 15, 2017 by Rattler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 That's my question. You're implying he did nothing wrong. What I want to know is if he did nothing wrong why did he resign? Because some media hacks are writing stories about him? Why did he resign if he did nothing wrong? Why would a president who put him in this position let him walk away if he did nothing wrong? I asked a question. I didn't make a statement. So why are you asking me to give an answer to a question I asked. Are you having reading comprehension issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Culvercreek hunt club Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 From what I have read, and the specific details are sketchy. He discussed foreign policy with a foreign official before he had an official position and was technically a "civilian". Do I think he did any harm or damage? Not in the least from what has been disclosed....BUT. laws are laws. If he did it and it is illegal then he has to go. I think that is why the resignation was asked for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said: From what I have read, and the specific details are sketchy. He discussed foreign policy with a foreign official before he had an official position and was technically a "civilian". Do I think he did any harm or damage? Not in the least from what has been disclosed....BUT. laws are laws. If he did it and it is illegal then he has to go. I think that is why the resignation was asked for. Good on the people who are upholding the law! Cant argue with that DRAIN THE SWAMP MAGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 OK, here are the facts. The only thing he did wrong was tell Pence he did not discuss the Russian sanctions with the Russians and Pence went public with that info. That made Pence look bad and put Flynn's honesty into question. He only said the sanctions would be examined after Trump was elected. No further details on that issue were discussed. He resigned because he fugged up and made Pence look bad. that's all he did wrong. [Former Bill Clinton adviser turned conservative pundit Dick Morris explained, "The Obama appointees still inhabiting the bowels of the State and Justice Departments orchestrated the coup that brought down General Michael Flynn." They did so by leaking to the press the transcripts of Flynn's December 29 phone conversation with a Russian official about Barack Obama's sanctions. This was followed by dire warnings of Flynn's susceptibility to potential blackmail by the Russians. (As if Hillary Clinton wasn't the biggest blackmail risk in the history of the United States.) "The leaks of the content of an intercepted communication are felonies," said former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova. "All of the disclosures to the Washington Post are federal crimes." That's not to excuse any deception on Flynn's part, but clearly the bigger story is the leaks. Flynn worked for Obama, too, and he became one of the most vocal opponents of Obama's foolish nuclear deal with Iran. Think that didn't stick in Obama's craw? So, three weeks into his new job with Donald Trump, Flynn found himself on the receiving end of some carefully timed discrediting leaks — retaliatory hacks by Obama's hacks. The larger Democrat narrative here is the same as it's been for months: The Russians handed Trump the election, and he's now fulfilling his end of the bargain. Unfortunately, this narrative probably isn't entirely fabricated. There's more news to sort through about members of Trump's campaign coordinating with Moscow, and that bears watching. The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, chaired by Republican Devin Nunes, plans to investigate the leaks. "There does appear to be a well-orchestrated effort to attack Flynn and others in the administration," Nunes said. And this is just the beginning. "First it's Flynn," Nunes warned. "Next it will be Kellyanne Conway, then it will be Steve Bannon, then it will be Reince Priebus." Indeed, right now the military and intelligence ranks are full of Obama hacks who are leaking classified information. These are not hacks from the outside; these are insiders. A final point: Former CBS News anchor Dan Rather claimed "this Russia scandal" might end up being as "big as Watergate." Rather, who was forced to resign from CBS after he fabricated stories about George W. Bush's Air National Guard service record, had this to say about Flynn: "Watergate is the biggest political scandal of my lifetime, until maybe now. It was the closest we came to a debilitating constitutional crisis, until maybe now. ... We may look back and see, in the end, that it is at least as big as Watergate. It may become the measure by which all future scandals are judged. It has all the necessary ingredients, and that is chilling." Watergate is exactly what all Leftmedia want this to be — taking down a Republican president was euphoric for the Left, and they want to relive the glory days. Trump and all his people clearly better watch their backs.] Mark Alexander If these leftist loonies are successful in bringing Trump down, things are going to get real ugly, real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 BTW, Eric Holder resigned as Obama's AG and he was under indictment. What has happened to that case since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
left field Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I'm not sure I ever got the Dick Morris story correct. Was it that he liked to lead the hooker around by a dog collar in hotel rooms or was he the one on all fours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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