philoshop Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/17/teachers-unions-celebrate-removal-literacy-test/ The teachers' union in NYS has apparently decided that expanding diversity among it's members is more important than teaching the children to read and write? I know we have some teachers and spouses of teachers here on HNY. Can someone fill me in on the reasoning behind this? It sounds like that whole ebonics thing that happened a few years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Hmmm. Im a teacher and havent heard about this. Passed those tests years ago lol. So theyre not on my radar anymore thank God ! Im gonna do some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) Ok. Seems like you are correct. They scrapped the ALST which was the easiest of the certification tests I took imo. Anyway wtf are people thinking. Sometimes i cant wrap my head around some decisions people with authority make. Maybe it will help the kids be more better students?? Lol. Edited March 18, 2017 by diplomat019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 So , if prospective teachers’ poor reading and writing skills are bad enough that they can't pass a test and are comparative to eighth grade comprehension that they do away with the tests ? And , that's good ? More dumbing down of America ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjs4 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Any job where as you get tenured is one we shouldn't support. Yes- my wife is a teacher. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diplomat019 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 40 minutes ago, gjs4 said: Any job where as you get tenured is one we shouldn't support. Yes- my wife is a teacher. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Tell her to give up her tenure. i had to be nominated for tenure. And teachers now have to put a portfolio together and apply for it sort of. But nobody forces them to do it. You could easily say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Thanks for the responses, folks. Keep them coming. U.S. school students are becoming some of the dumbest children in the civilized world, regardless of what the taxpayers are forced to spend. I just don't see how lowering the literacy standards for teachers could possibly be seen as a solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crappyice Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Dumbing down the test to make certain there is a racial balance of educators seems ridiculous. Yet another nail in the coffin of public perception about teachers. That public perception is partly why more qualified college students steer clear of education. If applicants cannot pass the test, they should not teach. If teachers do a poor job during their first 3-4 years, they should not be tenured. If tenured teachers perform poorly, THEIR ADMINISTRATORS should revoke their tenure through the process negotiated by them and the union. Tenure is not a license to be a $hitty teacher. The process to remove a tenured teacher needs to be revamped but it exists. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Half way through my student's studies, they are required to submit a statement of intent before progressing. The writings are incomprehensible usually. I remember one in particular that looked and read like a random word generator had created it. I have to rewrite many of them to attain a basic level of comprehension for other faculty. Edited March 19, 2017 by Papist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Suffice to say these students are probably unemployable outside of basic service industry work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattler Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Affirmative Action has proven to be Forced Mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Rather than raising everyone up, standards have been dropped to encourage good feeling over academic success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fasteddie Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 When the kids are seniors , do they all get Participation Trophies rather than Diplomas ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasteddie Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 The Dumbing Down most likely prepares Students to seek a degree in Political Science ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 8 hours ago, fasteddie said: When the kids are seniors , do they all get Participation Trophies rather than Diplomas ? Diplomas are participation trophies. We are strongly discouraged from failing students, even if they deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
growalot Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) It is a school lawyers nightmere to even consider removing any employee other than Lilly white or not having a student at any level not advance in education especially higher education. ...There are many meetings a team called, tons of paper work,and very ,very careful wording approved. This again unless Lily white. Reverse racism, ha! even having to say reverse in conjunction with racism is ridiculous. Edited March 19, 2017 by growalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philoshop Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 High school and college are being structured and used to destroy ambition and critical thinking skills among the young in most disciplines. I intentionally avoid hiring most college graduates because they come out dumber than they were when they went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Field_Ager Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Dumber and yet more entitled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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