tax bill

[BizCT]

Well maybe now these  clowns in office around here will lower the property tax here  ,the way it is in most the country instead of ripping us off with these outrageous high  taxes they have here .

It’s really the school tax that is much more than the county/town tax


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[mayo]

The tax bill did nothing to address the real issue which is overspending. Also in reality ny state generates more tax dollars than other states so why wouldnt its residents get more breaks than most?

Because States are not administrative provinces of the federal government. They are district and separate. If NYS, in its infinite wisdom, wants to give illegals instate college tuition then the residents of that state should pay for it.

Same as when this same all-knowing government decides to keep its citizens SAFE by limiting magazines to 7 rounds - this only applies to NYS.

No reason someone from NH should pay for NY and California giving illegals instate or free college. And let's not forget the job and tax revenue losses when ATI and other companies left New York.

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[Just Lucky]

6 minutes ago, mayo said:

Because States are not administrative provinces of the federal government. They are district and separate. If NYS, in its infinite wisdom, wants to give illegals instate college tuition then the residents of that state should pay for it.

Same as when this same all-knowing government decides to keep its citizens SAFE by limiting magazines to 7 rounds - this only applies to NYS.

No reason someone from NH should pay for NY and California giving illegals instate or free college. And let's not forget the job and tax revenue losses when ATI and other companies left New York.

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The government spending is out of control no doubt.  But how much federal tax dollars does New Hampshire generate compared to New York?

[mayo]

The government spending is out of control no doubt.  But how much federal tax dollars does New Hampshire generate compared to New York?

NH generates far less in total but that doesn't mean its citizens ought to pay for us. Comrade de Blasio is spending tons of money foolishly regarding the homeless problem (and elsewhere). People in Sullivan and Ulster county don't have to pay for it.

I live in deep blue Brooklyn. My taxes pay for it. I'm pretty sure Brooklyn generates more federal dollars than does Ulster and Sullivan county combined.

What we spend our taxes on is our business as NY residents. It's not NH or Iowa's concern. It's our choice and our responsibility.

I don't want to pay more in taxes either. It's our responsibility to hire politicians who won't tax and spend us to death.

We have statewide elections next year. Let's get our fellow citizens to rally around a less bloated, smarter government whose first reaction to solving a problem isn't reaching into our pockets.

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[The_Field_Ager]

On 12/23/2017 at 6:50 PM, The Jerkman said:

Try 10k loss in Westchester. I also know people that pay over $100k a year in property tax

100k to effectively rent your own home from the government. Wow...

I think I'd buy an RV at that point

[Marion]

100k to effectively rent your own home from the government. Wow...
I think I'd buy an RV at that point

Not when that amounts to less than a weeks worth of work

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[Culvercreek hunt club]

13 hours ago, Just Lucky said:

The tax bill did nothing to address the real issue which is overspending. Also in reality ny state generates more tax dollars than other states so why wouldnt its residents get more breaks than most?

more tax dollars? you must mean as a total and not as a percentage. The Total NY pays means nothing. look at your exact counterpart in another state that has much lower state and local taxes and doesn't get the write-off. do you or they pay more federal taxes?

[Hunter007]

4 hours ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

It’s really the school tax that is much more than the county/town tax


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Lol I know, but people are not any smarter here with all that money they spend everybody should be smarter than Einstein around here they're not  , schools should be covered in Gold they're not they're falling apart  or know better then most other places in the state . What ever there doing   there not doing it right that is for sure .

[Just Lucky]

1 hour ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

more tax dollars? you must mean as a total and not as a percentage. The Total NY pays means nothing. look at your exact counterpart in another state that has much lower state and local taxes and doesn't get the write-off. do you or they pay more federal taxes?

As a percentage the state of ny pays about 10 percent of the federal income tax. So i do feel ny tax dollars help other states. With the new tax plan that percentage will increase from our state. I am by no means justifying what ny state politicians spend niether.

[Culvercreek hunt club]

As a percentage the state of ny pays about 10 percent of the federal income tax. So i do feel ny tax dollars help other states. With the new tax plan that percentage will increase from our state. I am by no means justifying what ny state politicians spend niether.

Again. You are talking totals. As a percentage of total income NY doesn’t pay an equal share. Because of the deduction of high taxes.

[dbHunterNY]

family farm being paid Friday here, despite local municipalities have been saying it can't be.  otherwise losing $18k of deductions with a $10k cap.  land costs a lot to keep.

[Just Lucky]

1 hour ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Again. You are talking totals. As a percentage of total income NY doesn’t pay an equal share. Because of the deduction of high taxes.

I understand what you are saying about total vs. Percentage. However  other states get funding from the federal government just like New York. Other states benefit from the total tax dollars that New York puts in and that is why the deductions make sense to me. The real issue for me is the excess spending that all government parties. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

16 minutes ago, Just Lucky said:

The real issue for me is the excess spending that all government parties. 

And that is the issue and why states like CA, NY and NJ are going to take the biggest hit on this. Their spending is out of control with higher taxes. They could write them off and it made it easier to swallow but not this will bring those overspending states into the spotlight. I have my fingers crossed that every person that pulled a lever or filled in a dot for Cuomo in the last election have to pay out the a$$. 

It is a Federal change that is driving this but it isn't the Fed's fault for the results. 

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[The_Field_Ager]

Heard on the radio earlier about how filing 2018 property taxes early won't work. You need a new assessment done first.

[BizCT]

Heard on the radio earlier about how filing 2018 property taxes early won't work. You need a new assessment done first.

My town bill due 1/31/18 so I paid early and it works.


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[Chef]

That video picked 3 very specific families and didn’t really prove anything especially using the Rhode Island couple.... complete horse crap I will say this. I am a republican and Donald Trump is a tard. Granted I voted for him only because I hate Hillary .


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[The_Field_Ager]

34 minutes ago, Biz-R-OWorld said:

 

My town bill due 1/31/18 so I paid early and it works.


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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/12/28/irs-property-tax-prepayers-not-so-fast/986804001/

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In an advisory posted on the tax agency's website, the IRS said prepayments of 2018 state and local taxes before Jan. 1 may be tax deductible, but only if the municipalities have actually assessed the taxes before the year ends.

"State or local law determines whether and when a property tax is assessed, which is generally when the taxpayer becomes liable for the property tax imposed," the IRA advisory said.

 

[BizCT]

 

Yea I’m good. All of Putnam and Rockland counties are good. I’m in Westchester and certain towns are good too.


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[Just Lucky]

3 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

And that is the issue and why states like CA, NY and NJ are going to take the biggest hit on this. Their spending is out of control with higher taxes. They could write them off and it made it easier to swallow but not this will bring those overspending states into the spotlight. I have my fingers crossed that every person that pulled a lever or filled in a dot for Cuomo in the last election have to pay out the a$$. 

It is a Federal change that is driving this but it isn't the Fed's fault for the results. 

So what programs did the feds. cut so it aint there fault? Government overspends on everything no mater what level. A small gesture in my opinion would be in there own pockets but that wont happen no matter which party is in control. If politicians are gonna cut programs that I agree with or not then they should lead by example imo. 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Yea I’m good. All of Putnam and Rockland counties are good. I’m in Westchester and certain towns are good too.


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I just read an article with a quote from the IRS that hey we’re not going to honor 2018 payments made in 2017

[Culvercreek hunt club]

So what programs did the feds. cut so it aint there fault? Government overspends on everything no mater what level. A small gesture in my opinion would be in there own pockets but that wont happen no matter which party is in control. If politicians are gonna cut programs that I agree with or not then they should lead by example imo. 

You really don’t understand it do you

[BizCT]

I just read an article with a quote from the IRS that hey we’re not going to honor 2018 payments made in 2017

 I didn’t pay all of my 2018 taxes in 2017. I only paid the one portion due 1/31/18 early in 2017. So instead of paying $13.2K in 2017 and and 2018. I paid like $17.4K in 2017 and will only pay like 9K in 2018. 

All I did was pay my bill early. I paid on 12/13 instead of the due date of 1/31. I think the issue is people trying to pay all of their 2018 taxes up front. I was a few weeks ahead of this hoopla and simply doing something you can do any year

 

 

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[Just Lucky]

53 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

You really don’t understand it do you

Not in the same way do. My perspective is different than yours. Happy New Year sir.

[TACC]

So what programs did the feds. cut so it aint there fault? Government overspends on everything no mater what level. A small gesture in my opinion would be in there own pockets but that wont happen no matter which party is in control. If politicians are gonna cut programs that I agree with or not then they should lead by example imo. 

I agree, let's get at least one politician to get on the same health care and social security plan that we are on.

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[Chef]

 I didn’t pay all of my 2018 taxes in 2017. I only paid the one portion due 1/31/18 early in 2017. So instead of paying $13.2K in 2017 and and 2018. I paid like $17.4K in 2017 and will only pay like 9K in 2018. All I did was pay my bill early. I paid on 12/13 instead of the due date of 1/31. I think the issue is people trying to pay all of their 2018 taxes up front. I was a few weeks ahead of this hoopla and simply doing something you can do any year
 
 
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That’s all you needed to pay because now next year you are under the 10k so ur good.... anyone who pays everything up front is a moron. either way because then they get no write off next year. You just want to pre pay the portion of next years that would put you over the 10k cap like you did


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